Poll: Would you give up part of your stipend if it meant continuing event support?

If i was to have money come out of my stipend for events I would rather it sponsor Mentor Events, Fashion Shows and some other stuff NOT hot thong contests that happen every day at Club XYZ.

"Voluntary Tax" or in other words a "Gift" is irrelevant with this issue. Taxation is put into place to enforce critical funding which without it will detrementally effect an Economy negatively without it. This is a critical Issue which will have severe consequences on the outcome of Community growth as a whole and the Economy.

lol ... gee you guys thers other events that are being hosted that need this too.. clubs now have bingos/fashion events/tringo/top model.. w/e they still need this support... NOT everyone can BE a MENTOR... and if everyone becomes a mentor they will still find away to host that best Av event... as i said before we should stop thinking about ourselves and think about others...for once

Jenny: me too, but as Philip clearly said, lindens currently don't have the resources to efficently detect quality events from crappy ones.
Moreover we have to remember that even crappy events are a drive to economy, and allow entertainment workers (that are a big slice of SL population) to afford buying the good we produce.
Mentor events and fashion shows (as much as i love them) are only a part of the entertainment industry. Many people simply want to hang out and have fun (me too sometimes, when work leaves me enough time) and many events that the "intellectual" consider crappy provide exactly this. It's short sighted to think that removing one engine of a plane won't cause the passengers to suffer from it.

Clubs are a different issue in Virtual reality compared to the real world however, people do not consume drink to help fund the Club, the only other alternative other than taxation would be for Covercharges which for those that cannot afford it may have an impact on Club funding. Mostly new people start out going to Clubs as they do not have enough knowledge yet to begin their skills in Secondlife. Socialism is important to start these new people off on the right foot to become a productive community member within Secondlife and Clubs provide that as do all fun and Entertainment Events. It has to be funded.

I voted no. It is easy. Why should people help to pay for a service they might not even use? I am no club-goer, really. If I see a nice event I wanna take part, I have no prob paying an entrance fee, the land control enables us to do just that. But I don't want to finance all the events out there, of which 98% are of no interest to me.

*meow*
Leopard Loveless

So, people can't handle a covercharge, but they can a tax?
And why the hell should I pay a tax to prop up an industry I never make use of?
Anyone else find it ironic he called it "socialism" instead of socialising?

I don't like to have my stipend cut for any or all events hosts, because in my humble opnion there is alot of tasteless stuff going on wich i really don't want to pay for.

That LL cuts in this part of the gamedollars sounds very reasonable to me, look at the long list with events. Look at the numberous clubs, who all (a few exceptions run by people who obviously know what they are doing) last for maybe two months? What was a success two months ago doesnt even excist today. Maybe this will come to an end now and clubs will be run by people who are inventive and creative enough to make it a success without support.
Entrance fee is a good idea, you could raffle that money at the end of your party. You can advertise for business people on your parties and get donations for that, you can organise lotteries, i'm sure creative minds will come up with better and nicer ideas.

As someone wrote here, no designer, scripter or builder gets support from LL to do their stuff, we take the time to make something and hope someone will like it and buy it.

I think in the end this will make the 'party' side and the whole of SL a better place

There is alot going on since i been gone and this talk about a cut in pay seem way wrong to me and hell no and big big big big no goes for me.

John, I don't think you know what's at stake yet. You need to catch up on some reading.

Yeah i heard some of it and I will check into rest of this and see what the hell is going on with sl now.

In other words, Linden Labs are going to stop funding Events other than that of an Educational nature. So; we have to come up with a solution to fund all Events or you may lose your Club.

yes yes yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1/2 of it meant a better system!

I will teach sex ed! is that allowed!

NO.

There are some posters on here who think they know what's best for everyone in SL. Big News - you don't. Your feeling of superiority is showing and it makes me laugh out loud to read some of the posts. Go about your SL life and let everyone else do the same - its called personal choice. You have probably never heard of it.

Alexa

Hun its nice to have a choice right? Some believe stronger then the others.... if you choose not to its fine........ other have to understand we ll dont have to agree

Usagi

Or who try hard to find solutions that will allow LL to fight inflation without causing a too serious depression, while most people can just cry and complain.
If you have better solutions please dish them out.

and now that I have learned that Event hosts only get L$200 and L$500 for prize money, I am laughing my ass off!!!! Blake you are a NITWIT if you think that clubs are going to go under because of 700 measly little Lindenbucks hahaaaaaaaaaaaaofmgfHAAAAAAHAAAAA!

Wake up and smell the prims burning!!! OMG LOOK OUT IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!!

ohh and don't give me that $hit about ohh I have to pay my land tiering fee that the club is on... current rates 4096 land = $15 = around L$3800 a month what a frigging joke... a drop in the bucket! LOL

Chuckles himself off to the water cooler...

No! I would not like to give up part of my stipend to support events that I would not even go to. I believe a cover charge or a tip jar could be put out could be implimented by each individual club owners that would support the cost of the event.

DING DING DING!!!! YOU GOT IT Daily!!! Tip jars and donation signs, zzactly! w00t!

Why don't the serious event hosts who have something to offer the community talk to businesses in Second Life with a view to them sponsoring events for advertising. If anything, I bet event hosts could actually attract more money doing this than was ever possible with Linden funding.

(Sorry if this has already been mentioned on this thread, but damn, I had to skim otherwise I wouldn't of had brain space left to read any more books this year).

YES!

Let's support SPAMMERS and people who can't follow EVENT POSTING RULES with our own stipend money! Great idea!

This creates another system to be cheated. That's what we're trying to avoid here.

-Flip

First of all, I want to say that I would gladly give up part of my stipend to continue providing event support. Having been an event host myself in the past, I know this is the main source of income for a lot of newer player, and those who just enjoy being a host or hostess. I personally feel that taking away event support would be a huge mistake on the part of Linden Labs and will cause more problems than good in the end.

Now I want to move on to a comment I noticed that concernes me greatly..




Although I agree that cutting support is not the solution and will only cause more problems, I have to disagree with your comments that insinuate that "rich hosts" would intentionally reduce the quality and content of their events and would be taking away from those "average hosts" who have high quality events. I have been to many events in my time in SL, and I have been to events hosted by all manner of folk, whether they be rich, middle class, or poor. The events I attended were chosen based on what was going on , not on how much money I MIGHT get.

When I was hosting a lot, I probably fell in the poor or lower middle class somewhere, and in my experience, on average most people chose to attend my events BASED on the quality and content, rather than the amount of money they would get. Yes I held contests, trivia and the like, but the prizes were small in comparision to other events going on at the same time. I never had a huge attendance at my events, nor did I expect to because of the type of events I held.

Now, I am probably considered "rich" in comparison to most. When I chose events to attend, it is still based on what is going on and NOT on the money, the same as when I was poor or middle class. When I host an event, which I don't do very often, I try to be sure that it will be a quality event with good content that will be alot of fun for everyone who attends. My prizes are average and not designed to take event goers away from others who might have a better or more interesting event going at the same time.

I guess what I am trying to say is, that having been in all different classes, and not forgetting where I came from, it concerns me that some may feel that rich hosts might intentionally try to do in the less fortunate event hosts if support is taken away by the Lindens.

If I haven't been clear in what I am trying to say, please feel free to contact me and we can discuss it.

Madison Playfair

Ok All You Rich Club Owners Step Up To The Plate, Let Me Know Who You Are! And will you Fund your own Events?

No Madison, i am not telling that all rich hosts will intentionally lower the quality, i am telling that with lack of competuition they would be able to.