Poll: Would you give up part of your stipend if it meant continuing event support?

This question was asked by someone at a meeting of about 40-50 people in-game where event support, among other things were discussed (I won't say who asked it, or the rumor mill will have my head on a stick). I thought it was worth asking to people who weren't at that meeting.

(Edit: My vote would be yes IF event support were extended to all events (except those currently un-postable to the events list))

Most definately! This is in consideration by Phillip. Someone else suggested it.

I'm surprised there aren't more events that charge fees. Or is it just there aren't many events worthy of charging people to get in?

My vote is absolutely Yes, even if i dont run events or have a club.
The reasons are fairly simple:
In real world almost all governments give economic incentives to highly productive industries and markets, and how does it raises the money to do that? Taxes.
In Second Life entertainment (I.e. Events) are one of the most productive industries, and offer a service to the public, so it neeeds to be protected.
Not only that, the entertainment industry provides jobs to all the people that don't have the time (many people have a very extensive first life that allows them say 1 or 2 online hours a day) or the ability to run their own business.
All those people need to recur to an hired job to have any source of income, and no one can deny that the biggest slice of hired jobs is provided by Clubs and events (dancers, hosts, escorts, entertainers, security personell, etc).
Such businesses need incentives to keep those jobs running, and keeping them running helps in turn the whole economy.
In fact giving a job to people that can't afford running one of their own allows people more spending money with wich they will be able to reward designers and builders, in turn helping other industries as well.
Removing event funding would have a simple effect: Less events -> Less clubs -> Less jobs -> ore unemployed people relying ONLY on the base stipends -> Less commerce -> Less earnings for builders/designers -> Less builders/Designers -> Less content for second life -> etc etc in a descending spiral that will bring our world to be much worse and less varied of what it is now.
By giving a small slice of our weekly stipend (Philip talked of 100 L$ for anyone of us) we tax ourselves to keep the entertainment industry running, an industry that brings money flow and weath to ALL second life.
And anyway that 100L$ are much less of whatever one can make being hired by a club or by an event host.
Another point is that, indirectly, event hosts are providing a service, both to Linden Labs and to the community. Providing entertainement for the masses they provide content that draws new users and keeps old ones from being bored.
The most important thing to have a healty economy is to keep the money flowing andpassin hands between peope willing to work for it, and clubs and events are one of the bigger drive that allow this to happen.
Please support this poll, because right now it could be the only way to save SL's economy.

Thank you for your attention

No. If anything, it should be the other way around.

Well I pay L$100 or so out of my stippend and it just goes to anyone who happens to be hosting whatever event at the moment.

Or people just charge for there events and i can spend that same L$100 on where I want it to go, What events I personaly feel are deserving of it.

im gonna say a big NO.

if you really think events are about the paltry sum the lindens used to pay you haven't a clue. The majority of events are about raising dwell


yes all the thong contests and sexiest av''s who play bingo keep the boredom at bay. Events have sucked ass for months and needed a kick

My thoughts exactly. I'd rather pay to go to an event of my choice when I felt like it, than a flat cut.

most of us who were at the meeting with phillip got to hear what some people had to say , and one of the last people to speak Shiryu (thank you btw) has made an excellent point and im pretty sure has spoken on behalf of everyone especially hosts! who are against the events cut... since this game does live on events and everyone likes to have fun (no offense to the people who would like more "educational"... but i think contests and games are more fun...most of the people go to events to win prizes and have fun ... especially those who need it...most are more likely to go to an event with prizes then the one with a cover charge .. or no prizes .... personally when i started thats all i did was host to make an extra buck until i jst said well okay enough let me have fun now.. its not all about the money but it sure feels nice to win from time to time... so yes if i have to give up 100l out of my stippend to continue event support sure why not, id use it to host events for others anyways, like i do

well if you have better events how come your not running any?

You have a choice, to support Events as a hole or not and lose events as a whole. The choice is yours. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. When the needs of the many are taken away, the needs of the few will follow.

If you think that cutting event support will reduce the popularity of money giving events you are largely mistaken. It will only mean that the rich event hosts that can afford to give out money on their own will have the most popular events, while the average ones, despite the grade of quality, will loose attendance. Why is that?
because in the money shortage we will be in after the new changes people will be even more driven to go to events that pay the most money in the hope to round up their meager funds.
The only effect of cutting event support will be:
-Rich host will be able to deprieve their events of all quality content and still be the most popular because they will be able to offer some much needed money
-Average to poor hosts that have good ideas and low fund will hav zero attendance, despite the quality.
Cutting event support is not a solution for ANY problem and at the same time will CAUSE problems (loss of workplaces for instance).

You may not have an Event to choose, if there are none in SL.

Uh correct me if I'm wrong here, but if only the really rich people can do money-giveaways...


Wont there be less?

Maybe, but almost everyone will go there, thus cutting drastically the popularity of quality events that dont have big bucks to support them.

Shiryu, take a look at the events list right now. How many "Quality" events do you see..?

Very few, and where do you think they will end if you cut them any kind of support?

Right where they are right now..?

These true quality events aren't based around handing out money, they're about people having fun together.

Support money is not only about prizes, it gives hosts the possibility to hire and pay staff and an incentive to run events. The solution is NOT to cut the events support, because it affects both the good and the bad.

You think lag is bad now in Clubs, even if the few Rich are generous, what few Clubs that are left will be so overpacked no one will be able to dance or move; much less get into the Sim.

I have better things to do...SL isnt all about living off the welfare and events for dwell and rate mining.

Talen I think hosting events is hard work, its not welfare or free money, for a good event it takes time, money and patience.
Why can't LL slice supprt instead of stop it... how about take away the $250 for the host and leave the $500 available for prizes?

This is my very first Forum reply. I usually dont enter forums because of flaming, but I thought a management perspective should be reflected. It seems that the RL is wedging into Second Life. I have to ask if Second Life is chipping away at the monetary incentive to create a money conversion platform, much like There has created. It is one of the reasons I dont enter There, because of the spending 10 USDs for Therebucks.

For this particular vote, I had to vote no for this reason, but I would Gladly give all the stipend to The Event hosts. They are what makes this game and Ultimately SL there Stipends. We are talking Game Dollars. The Game should not have to interceed with events bonuses or stipends. They should keep the reward system and stipends in place. Playing with a global economy, whether in game or out will ultimately decline the social structure and undermine the value of the currency.

Polaris Grayson

Nope.. but not because I give a hoot about the stipend - just that I think the events atm are for the most part a waste of time.

Siggy.

My Proposal was to do away with Bonuses tied to Ratings, make Ratings have a cost of $2 Linden to rate someone with no reward in return. To base bonus on Longevity in game and activeness of log in and evidence by chat logs. Not to take away bonuses but to economically Budget with savings of the Rate Hog and put it back into funding with Statistics/Ratios and Account activity averages in correlation to budget balances for the Economy with allowance from these statistics and savings for Event funding.