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Poll: Would you give up part of your stipend if it meant continuing event support?

Blake Rockwell
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01-11-2005 19:23
From: Raverchick Steele
If I give 100l of my money out I'm still going even deeper into -cash .... what should be said here is ..... Hey I've made a ton of money I'll fund all of my own events. I for one am pissed at losing money and now you want more of my measly wkly income. Come on guyz .... where are the rich that can easily help us ..... let them give to us .... I being 1 mnth old can't lose anymore than I am. Just use logic .... taking more from the newbs is not the answer.


I hope you love Crafting and Building because that will be the only thing left to do in SL if Events fall.
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Cromulence DeGroot
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01-11-2005 19:24
I chose "No" but I am actually voting FUCK NO. I'm amazed that someone actually found a way to make the new economic plan even more fucking retarded than it already is. Thanks a bunch, clownshoe.

EDIT: ^^Blake, it's amazing the number of things I find to do in SL that don't involve building, scripting, or going to Linden-subsidized events. I do think events should be subsidized but not at my expense, OK?
Alby Yellowknife
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01-11-2005 19:25
From: Lance LeFay
I, myself, used to teach and do mentor events. Funny concept, you know, doing something for the community :\




Thats what hippies do... Bust their azz for free. Then cry when the capitist rolls in, takes over, and charges a dollar for profit.

The Community can PayUp!!! Its not worth doing if your not going to profit.
Sensual Casanova
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01-11-2005 19:25
From: Siggy Romulus
Pot - kettle - woooot black black black!

I remember *someone* adopting such a strategy not that long ago!

hahahah ah lordy I love the forums!

Siggy.


go drown yourself in the kettle Siggy? :D
Alby Yellowknife
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01-11-2005 19:26
From: Cromulence DeGroot
I chose "No" but I am actually voting FUCK NO. I'm amazed that someone actually found a way to make the new economic plan even more fucking retarded than it already is. Thanks a bunch, clownshoe.





Watch your language... There are children around here... Take your foul mouth into the street and wash it out with soap.
Siggy Romulus
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01-11-2005 19:26
From: Blake Rockwell
I hope you love Crafting and Building because that will be the only thing left to do in SL if Events fall.


I still don't see how events are going to fall - you can still host an event whenever you like.. Linden support being reserved for what they deem educational.

There is nothing stopping you from still hosting whatever event you like - and unless there has been some radical change in the past 24 hours - you'll still get dwell (traffic) for it.

(looks up) Sky is still where it was.

Siggy.
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Siggy Romulus
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01-11-2005 19:27
From: Sensual Casanova
go drown yourself in the kettle Siggy? :D


I would but you'll have to go see your proctologist first darling -- and then again I'm not the one crying one thing while doing another :)

Thank you for playing -- again :)
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Shiryu Musashi
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01-11-2005 19:27
From: Cromulence DeGroot
I chose "No" but I am actually voting FUCK NO. I'm amazed that someone actually found a way to make the new economic plan even more fucking retarded than it already is. Thanks a bunch, clownshoe.


It's interesting on how all the flaming, personal attacks and generally rude remarks comes only from the ones against this solution... wonder why...
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Cromulence DeGroot
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01-11-2005 19:28
^^EDIT: Because you're talking about taking away a chunk of my income to subsidize your activities, 99% of which are completely fucking stupid. So you'll have to pardon my nasty flaming personal attack. I call 'em like I see 'em.

From: Alby Yellowknife
Watch your language... There are children around here... Take your foul mouth into the street and wash it out with soap.


Thank you for this insightful comment. You win the whole Intarweb.
Raverchick Steele
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01-11-2005 19:29
From: Cromulence DeGroot
I chose "No" but I am actually voting FUCK NO. I'm amazed that someone actually found a way to make the new economic plan even more fucking retarded than it already is. Thanks a bunch, clownshoe.

I second most of that :-) I know that there will still be the generous few who will fund events but here it is in a nutshell..... LL wants less money coming into the game 100l out of our funds ..... hell yes they'll go for that ..... this is even better than they could ever imagine.If they could and beleive me its coming the stipend bonus will be gone forever. Yes zero stipend ..... this wouldn't hurt them at all ..... it'd suit them even better
Lance LeFay
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01-11-2005 19:32
From: Alby Yellowknife
Watch your language... There are children around here... Take your foul mouth into the street and wash it out with soap.

Alby, you yourself are more polluting to a young mind than any "foul" language.
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Chloe Platini
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01-11-2005 19:32
From: Talen Morgan
I have hosted quite a few events and not once did I rely on the lindens for support. I've already stated ways of doing it. There are good events and there are bad events but events arent hard to host.



yeah i agree there are good and there are bad... and i didnt say i rely on linden support all the time, usually when i have my events i give out more then what the lindens support and that because i want to give out.. i said when i started i hosted events and relied on it... but then again thats what most noobs do... and i still see it being done toda... and they do get hard but then again it all depends on the type of event (lag,taking votes,finding people in a big crowd, w/e u get the idea):p
Blake Rockwell
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01-11-2005 19:37
From: Alby Yellowknife
Thats what hippies do... Bust their azz for free. Then cry when the capitist rolls in, takes over, and charges a dollar for profit.

The Community can PayUp!!! Its not worth doing if your not going to profit.


Yes, and you can pay a host to host entertainment for you, but probably in your case; you are not here for entertainment, only rhetoric. If you were a true Capitalist you sure as hell wouldn't have time to post these ignorant rants and illogical views based on the whole of the economy, only for a false perception and roleplay that you are a Capitalist of Greed without emotion, one that is pretending to think he knows the market to inflate your head to a point of disconcern of the populace only to make a few coins, when in reality wish he had a Series 7 license to Stock Broker and make real money.
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Aria Madison
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yes...
01-11-2005 19:45
I hold events just about every day, and I would gladly receive less stipend each week if it meant that I would receive payment and compensation for my contests, trivia, and other events.
Jazmina Firefly
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Join date: 3 Aug 2004
Posts: 37
01-11-2005 19:49
I am not a designer or a builder so one of the only ways i make money to run my events is by getting suporrt for each of the events that i host.There are alot of ppl that play this way so yes i would be willing to give up my weekly pay in order to beable to have the support to run events.
Raverchick Steele
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01-11-2005 19:51
damn Blake I like you:-) Go Blake man go ..... I like to see someone willing to let it all hangout.
Mysterious Zamboni
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01-11-2005 20:01
I'm willing to if its not that much of a cut , i'm not that rich in SL , a few k is all I have....and I depend on stipend sometimes to event run events...
Jay Knox
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Join date: 29 Mar 2004
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01-11-2005 20:07
From: Talen Morgan
Think outside the box...why do you need it? You make quality merchandise as do other merchants at LeCadre.....give away prizes.

Misty used to give away prizes all the time and people loved it...yes she gave away money too but the prizes people clammored for. People are going to use the money you give away to buy something...wouldn't it make more sense and be better advertisement if you gave prizes away?

Just remembered everyone wanted to win that damn VW convertible she had....she must have given easily hundreds of them out and still people cheered when she gave one away.
This was something i thought about earlier myself. People losing that precious 500L to give away and 250 for doing all this "difficult event organizing" has you so consumed in defending keeping the funding - that you fail to see there are other alternatives. Yes it means needing to be creative. Yes it means coming up iwth unique things. In the long run you will be glad you could and probably get MUCH MORE satisfaction then paying your guests to be there.

Misty had what i deemed the most successful events when i started, and quite frankly i haven't seen anything compare (and i held some sick parties in my day). People donated prizes all day long becasue it was fun, the host was entertaining, and the crowds loved it. All of these people who are capable of making great content are also typically quite generous. Know a designer or a builder, give away some of their valuable gifts as prizes. Heck i recall times when people would donate 10,000L to events for giveaways (yet they are all the rich elitist oldbies :P ROFL).

Event hosts are selling themselves short here. Very many of the posters in these threads crying out they have been wronged by LL and the system are also those who were gaming the system and making it difficult for people to find quality content and events. This is the chance for those who are passionate about entertaining and creating fun things to do are going to flourish if the system is actually worth using and hell I might even start opening the events finder again :D

*edit typos*
Lance LeFay
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01-11-2005 20:08
From: Jay Knox
This was something i thought about earlier myself. People losing that precious 500L to give away and 250 for doing all this "difficult event organizing" has you so consumed in defending keeping the funding that you fial to see there are other alternatives. Yes it means needing to be creative. Yes it means coming up iwth unique things. In the long run you will be glad you could and probably get MUCH MORE satisfaction then paying your guests to be there.

Misty had what i deemed the most successful events hwen i started, and quite frankly i haven't seen anything compare (and i held some sick parties in my day). People donated prizes all day long becasue it was fun, the host was entertaining, and the crowds loved it. All of these people who are capable of making great content are also typically quite generous. Knox a designer or a builder, give away some of their valuable gifts as prizes. Heck i recall times when people would donate 10,000L to events for giveaways (yet they are all the rich elitist oldbies :P ROFL).

Event hosts are selling themselves short here. Very many of the posters in these threads crying out they have been wronged by LL and the system are also those who were gaming the system and making it difficult for people to find quality content and events. This is the chance for those who are passionate about entertaining and creating fun things to do are going to flourish if the system is actually worth using and helli might even start opening the events finder again :D


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Calydin Eldritch
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01-11-2005 20:09
You want an easy way to deal with this? Stop letting people buy Linden dollars. It isn't a viable coinage anyways. It would stop all influx of exchange and overflow and you could let it stablize and then keep the events support. I won't take a cut anywhere, and neither should anyone.

They should never have allowed people to sell their Linden dollars. Period.

Get rid of them, and you'll go back to having just the game as the source of money.

Calydin Eldritch
Lance LeFay
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01-11-2005 20:10
From: Calydin Eldritch
You want an easy way to deal with this? Stop letting people buy Linden dollars. It isn't a viable coinage anyways. It would stop all influx of exchange and overflow and you could let it stablize and then keep the events support. I won't take a cut anywhere, and neither should anyone.

They should never have allowed people to sell their Linden dollars. Period.

Get rid of them, and you'll go back to having just the game as the source of money.

Calydin Eldritch

Uhh...

no?
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Pendari Lorentz
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01-11-2005 20:12
woohoo!! Good news!! You don't have to give up part of your stipened to get Event Support!!

Just USE part of your stipend to fund your events. No difference. Problem solved. :D
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Lance LeFay
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01-11-2005 20:15
Thanks for clearing that one up, Pendari :P
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Madame Maracas
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I'd rather
01-11-2005 20:18
I'd rather have the stipend and not the event hosting credit. I can host parties, give prim or clothing gifts for prizes, just fine. But if I want to buy land or other folks' products, I need Lindens.

For those of us budgeting our SL expenditures, the possible 250L per event isn't as big a help as the larger sum I get from ratings.

Really I wonder that the economy is so inflated that both of these actions need to hit at the same time, if these moves were enacted a few months apart the shock and awe effect might not be so spectacular.
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01-11-2005 20:20
From: Pendari Lorentz
woohoo!! Good news!! You don't have to give up part of your stipened to get Event Support!!

Just USE part of your stipend to fund your events. No difference. Problem solved. :D


I would rather have them take $100 from my stipend in hopes that it will go to a noobie trying to make it in SL by hosting events or whatever... call me crazy..
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