I don.t get it, and they certainly don't

Nope... again you seem to have missed the point.

For me, there has been, is and continues to be observalby cliquish behavior by a reasonably identifiable group loosely termed oldbies. That this is the only term that I could apply to the individuals as a whole actually has little to do with the point. Connect the idea of clliquishness and the group assailt on Prokofy in this thread and you might finally get the core of my entire series of posts (while ignoring most of the nuance).

The first series of posts in this thread was he said/she said - actually, reverse that. What I observed was a bunch of people - identifiably not present when the exchange(s) and IMs occured - jumping to post an offensive defense when it really was none of their business. That is the essence of ridiculousness to me --- and coincidentally often observable in cliques. So, I called it as I saw it. That it would cause controversy didn't matter to me --- nor did the fact that most would defend themselves from "the attack" (which did happen, though not in the numbers I expected). That you continue to defend "the group" and coincidentally "yourself" from this non-existent "attack" is really becoming silly to me.

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LOL Korg. Biases are like accents. You hear everyone else's but your own. Why would you characterize this thread as some kind of oldbie assault on a new player instead of what it actually is... a bunch of people who disagree with a stated viewpoint responding to it? You characterize it according to the lens you choose to view it through.

Wow! That gorilla is gorgeous! I love the metallic textures on it. (Who's gonna send me a metallic black texture? *bats eyelashes*)

Two thumbs up to the creator!

~Ulrika~

Turn that around and ask it of yourself...

Why would YOU characterize it differently than I do?

My answers for you, (though probably to be disputed by you) center around you (anyone in the group "under perceived 'attack'" for that matter) feeling ego-threatened.... that is, someone (me) is essentially saying "you ain't who you think you is" and you don't like the emotional response to that charge.

You CANNOT be on the "inside" and see it as those on the "outside" do. My claim is that there IS such a divide. You just happen to be on one side of that divide and I on the other. Saying it isn't so doesn't disprove or negate my perspective in any sense. "what it actually is" my behind.

Let's be clear about something else though. I never said it was an organized assault/defense. Mob behavior doesn't work that way and mobs are just a form of a big clique for the period of the existence of the mob.

It COULD be just coincidence that all the other posters DO feel like Prokofy is wrong and there is no cliquishness involved... I estimate that possibility at about 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 YMMV

Because I'm not a mind reader.

Adults treat each other with respect despite view points.

Board trolls and children are treated as such. Its not a clique or a conspiracy. Its common sense.

Aside from coincidence and cliquishness, I can see at least one other reason for the group backlash. Prokofy is an asshat. Being an asshat prevents one from seeing that they are an asshat, naturally, so they perceive decent folks trying to talk them out of their stupidity and ire as an attack by mob.

This should sound familiar, as before the wizard of words showed up, you were the asshat everyone was (and still is) trying to talk sense to.

~Ulrika~

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I couldn't agree more.

I like lamb fries.

zugzug!

Spoken like the pain in the board's ptoot you are... Why don't you go back and hide in your projekt area and spew communism there ((edited)).

No one was asking for your opinion here.

Wow Zug, I see you're still refraining from personal attacks !! Bravo !!

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Panda's - endangered species
strong - yep... strong enough to routinely starve self to death if they don't get their way (specific food)
fair - and unbalanced as evidenced from numerous posts
play - as nothing said by you can really be taken too seriously

ergo, pF -=>puffery wasting electrons

Ha! A walking DICKtionary!

Seriously, Korg, did you get picked on too much as a child? Why the latent hostility with everyone you disagree with?

I know you have a grudge against LL for, in your opinion, not being fair with how they monitor the boards. But your behavior is childish. It doesn't prove anything, and it certainly doesn't motivate change. I pray to god that one day you'll get laid regularly, or whatever it is that you need you will obtain so that you can stop demeaning us all on this board.

Actually Panda it should be dickSHUNary

and in your case a pricktionary?

uh huh. I am awed by your wit.

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