More land extorsion: W-Hat group
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Ahkin Pierce
Second Life Resident
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
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01-14-2005 13:52
I am in these forums to learn more so I do come off an ignoarant ass alot and I deal with that. So just a warning - I am also only here cause I am at work and can not get in game. ( Minutes left so MY Posts get sloppy as I get ready to race home and run into game and into the arms of my Love. AJUK. I LOVE AJUK
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GET A MATE!
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Crash Hornet
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jan 2005
Posts: 1
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01-14-2005 13:54
Amazing. Either Anshe is very wealthy in real life, or foolish with her money. Anshe, you have 5 million Linden$.. this translates to over 100,000 us dollars if my math is right http://qb.ox3gen.com/slh/SLL-Graph3.gifThat means she has -right now- $100,000 plus invested in pretend make-believe money. If Second life turns out to be less than successful- as Sims Online recently did- that money is lost. If Linden Labs announces that due to financial problems, the money is lost. If they decide to change the rules of the game, so that L$ is given away more easily, which they can do at anytime, the money is lost. I don't know how much of your own cash you have put into the game, but $L is probably the most dangerous way to invest your money.
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Forseti Svarog
ESC
Join date: 2 Nov 2004
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01-14-2005 13:54
Anyone saying that a wealthy player or person can control SL strikes me as ridiculous. Silicon Valley is full of millionaires -- you think Philip is going to turn himself inside out for one of them who walks through the door and has some pet notion about SL? I don't think so, unless you are talking about Bill Gurley, his Benchmark board member! Philip's ambitions ARE MUCH bigger than that. For the time being, while he's got $8M in the bank and investors with very deep pockets, Philip is going to do what he and his investors think is right, and he won't do anything that diverts him from building his vision. Kow-towing I don't think is one of them. Kicking players off because a wealther player asks for it? I think he'd say, "get lost" in the span of milliseconds.
I don't know any uber uber rich people so I can't pass judgement, but i certainly know "millionaires" who are amazingly ethical (I personally happen not to be a millionaire, most unfortunately!).
I think you should have one set of moral values whether someone is rich or poor, one color or another, human or furry, this religion or that... it's easy to judge people from afar... but usually misguided.
(and Michi, I'm not trying to target you with this at all... it all just got me thinking)
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Renault Clio
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Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 130
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01-14-2005 13:55
From: Lo Jacobs So what if your Dwell is large, that has nothing to do with it, it just shows that a lot of your group members spend time on the land. Pshhh. Dwell is unique visitors every 24hrs. You know... UNIQUE... which means other people than us.
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Lo Jacobs
Awesome Possum
Join date: 28 May 2004
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01-14-2005 13:56
From: Renault Clio Dwell is unique visitors every 24hrs.
You know... UNIQUE... which means other people than us. Mmmkay so you've got A LOT of group members. Still didn't address the other issue. You guys are worse than US politicians in terms of Dodging the Issue.
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Shiryu Musashi
Veteran Designer
Join date: 19 Nov 2004
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01-14-2005 13:57
From: Ahkin Pierce Well when I moved into Mowry I had no idea the next day there would be a gun shop next door and a week later a whore house behind me and then ne more week Later "For Sale BOXES all over in every Angle - Luckily it did work and some great people moved in all around. I have posted it is a sad thing Happening ..i mean it is kinda a shitty tactic. But is she living there or is it just empty land waiting for a buyer? In both cases it damages her, even if she didnt live here, purposedly ugly builds scare off customers, thus forcing her to keep the land and pay the tier for it or sell it underpriced to get rid of it. That is a kinda mafia-ish behavioir in my eyes, and could actually happen to everyone that has a neightbor ruthless enough to try that method. Thats why this kind of behavioirs have to be fought with all means necessary (whoever is the victim), before they become a common method to acquire land at a lower price.
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Adohan Zephyr
Bang bang
Join date: 20 Sep 2004
Posts: 216
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01-14-2005 13:57
w-hat has build stuff like this since long before she moved in.
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Ned Ludd
Registered User
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 33
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01-14-2005 13:58
From: Lo Jacobs Mmmkay so you've got A LOT of group members.
Still didn't address the other issue. You guys are worse than US politicians in terms of Dodging the Issue. Who are you and why do you have a personal vendetta against a group that encompasses many people?
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Dingo Eldritch
Registered User
Join date: 7 Jan 2005
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01-14-2005 13:59
From: Ned Ludd Who are you and why do you have a personal vendetta against a group that encompasses many people? It's King REol! :tinfoil:
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
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01-14-2005 13:59
Heh, couldn't resist just one more post Anshe..... Brilliant marketing ruse !!! Your name is out there yet again.... sincere kudos. 
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Renault Clio
Registered User
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 130
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01-14-2005 14:00
From: Lo Jacobs Mmmkay so you've got A LOT of group members. Yeah, a quarter the SL population are all W-Hats, because how else would we get into the Popular Places list all the time, if everyone hates us and our classy art! 
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Bakuzelas Khan
Me
Join date: 16 Mar 2004
Posts: 129
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01-14-2005 14:03
Just set your land to auto-return like everyone else does.
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
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01-14-2005 14:04
From: Lecktor Hannibal Ulrika, I love you (did I just say that ? ) Ditto. By the way, I don't know whether to be flattered or horrified that I am quoted with Blake 
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Ananda Sandgrain
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Join date: 16 May 2003
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01-14-2005 14:09
This is wonderful karma!
Dare we dream of a win-win situation?
Ban all of the offenders! Get rid of Anshe and the worst of the W-Hats in one fell swoop!
It's for the best.
*nihilism!*
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Lo Jacobs
Awesome Possum
Join date: 28 May 2004
Posts: 2,734
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01-14-2005 14:11
From: Ned Ludd Who are you and why do you have a personal vendetta against a group that encompasses many people? Thanks, I am perfectly capable of realizing that a group is made up of individuals. I personally had the experience of being W-Hat's neighbor and I am well aware of your group's rather unfriendly tactics about buying and controlling land in Baku. I have no interest in disbanding your group whatsoever, but I do think that you are incredibly inconsiderate neighbors that use passive aggression to get what you want (in this case, land). You stick ugly things on your land which overlap onto Anshe's land. She makes noise about it and you move it, but you never really admit that your stuff was on her land at all, you just try to make it seem as though she was mistaken. You buy the land all around me and stick ban lines and incredibly unnattractive builds on them. True, nothing you guys do is one way or the other. It's passive aggression and it's COWARDLY. You spend more time thinking up excuses -- and they really are very plausible ones -- than you do thinking about other people. So ... I don't have a "vendetta" against your group -- I just don't want anyone to believe that you were for one second clueless about anything. Everyone who builds stuff knows how easy it is to move a cube, rotating or otherwise, off someone else's land.
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Mizzie LeMay
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Join date: 6 Dec 2004
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01-14-2005 14:12
From: Adohan Zephyr w-hat has build stuff like this since long before she moved in. That still doesn't make it acceptable, simply because it's a continued behavior. As I said before, what they do on their own land is their own business (wether we like it or not, what can you do?). But what they do on other peoples land is not acceptable. Oh, and to Mr. Whatever-your-name-is, I didn't mean you personally. I meant the W-Hat members who are causing problems. I thought that was a given, but apperently not. -_-
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Surreal Farber
Cat Herder
Join date: 5 Feb 2004
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01-14-2005 14:27
From: Lianne Marten What the heck is wrong with some of you?
These people are acting completely innapropriately, yet because they are doing it to someone you don't like, it's alright.
I... ah... buh...
*shakes her head and walks out* Absolutely. Reminds me of junior high school more and more. Surreal
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
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01-14-2005 14:29
From: Cristiano Midnight Ditto. By the way, I don't know whether to be flattered or horrified that I am quoted with Blake  Hehe well Cris in light of previous forum decorum, that sigline has since expired 
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
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01-14-2005 14:35
*take sip of her diet soda*
PFFFFFTHTTTTTH!!!!!
*cough cough*
5 million L$ !?!?!
Honestly. With that kind of money it seems you could dispatch your own enemies, and do it creatively too! (as a warning to others). If I had that kind of money I would keep a few Lindens on the payroll at all times...just in case.
In the mean time, feel free to IM if you need any advice...or a wife..or whatever.
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
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01-14-2005 14:37
I thought you were married Aimee?? 
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
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01-14-2005 14:38
The definition of Extortion:
EXTORTION - The use, or the express or implicit threat of the use, of violence or other criminal means to cause harm to person, reputation, or property as a means to obtain property from someone else with his consent.
Although I do not agree with what W-hat is doing. I fail to see how "extortion" comes into the picture. This kind of thing happens daily in SL. Its called "grieving" not extortion, because they would have to be outwardly doing illegal things. If the items overlap, delete them. If the harassment continues, report abuse.
Understandably, they want you to buy land back at an outrageous price. Not cool. You are not alone on this one Ashne. Had anyone else posted here, they would get the same old "It's their land and they can do what they want".
You have alot of money and that makes you a target. I am quite sure that you conduct your business within the rules. You have no more and no less power than anyone else in this matter.
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Aurens Czukor
Waster of Prims
Join date: 3 Oct 2004
Posts: 60
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01-14-2005 15:01
I came to the forums on my first day of SL, and one of the very first threads I saw was a whole lot of people attacking Anshe for something she may or may not have done. That was quite a while ago, and now, coming back after a long absence, I see it's the same... I stopped reading at the 6th page or so, but it was nice to see people apologizing to her, and realizing that, whatever she may have done in the past and however much money she might have, she doesn't deserve to have this happen to her, no one does.
Two wrongs don't make a right, after all.
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Huns Valen
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01-14-2005 15:07
From: Bakuzelas Khan Just set your land to auto-return like everyone else does. THREAD DESTROYED
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
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01-14-2005 15:21
Where's Prokofy when you need him? Get over there for a negrate! That should scare the hell out of them. Ashne, you're not feted are you? 
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Jauani Wu
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01-14-2005 15:33
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Suit yourself. Instead, let's discuss the ethics of dismantling Rose Market, shall we? ~Ulrika~ what ever happened to kant?
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