More land extorsion: W-Hat group

You know, i'm so unused to agreeing with Jonquille that I had to triple check her message here, but I do believe she's right. Getting screwed over or extorted shouldn't be acceptable to anyone, and the personal wealth of the griefed shouldn't be a factor.

Also, I can tell you that I disagree with this idea that SL will do anything for people with money (which infers you'll get less attention if your poor), I think the Lindens will do anything possible to please people, as long as it doesn't grief somebody else, and is a reasonable use of their time.

WTG Jonquille

Again, what difference does it make how much money she has? Maybe I just don't share the "down with the rich" attitude, but I fail to see what recourse she has here that anyone else doesn't. I've had Lindens help me with matters that were out of my own hands, (griefing neighbors who wanted my land) and I have about 7k in my SL account.

You must have one sorry ass opinion of the Lindens to think they're all so easily bought. I don't share that opinion.

Hahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAH Hahahahahahahaha

*breath*

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah *oh sweet jeebus* Hahahahahaha...

(ahem)

Yeah, thats a real shame, people littering land they own with scripted objects (I think I saw a reference one rotated or something)......oh lord....Ok, I can't do this with a straight face.

Hahahahahahah....*whew*

I want you to remember this moment. And when you do, I want you to recall the feeling you have, right now, because its exactly the same feeling you've been perpetuating with your 'business practice' of object-spam.

My god, Karma does exist...hahahahahahah

Interesting Michi.


Any SL lawyers wanna work pro-bono?

The fact Anshe has X L$ in her account doesn't change ANYTHING at all, nor makes her deserve a treatment different from anyone else.
Yes, anshe is a rich land owner, but at least her buildings are not plain white cubic eyesores just slammed down near any telehub, she tries to make her land as appealing as it could be to the eye and as far as i heard and personally experienced she works hard and always treats the ones she deals with fairly.
She is quite evidently target of an abuse and seeing people attacking HER just because she is rich, makes me feel that there is a lot of simple, plain, usual, foolish envy in some of the posts in this thread.
Maybe some of you could try to figure what they would feel if some griefer placed such junk in the middle of their land.
What should happen in this cases is the perpetrators being discovered, shunned, isolated and struck down with maximum possible force and by any means necessary, not treated like some modern (and stupid) version of robin hood.

Anshe? Are you single?

On an even more serious note, W-Hat should be spanked for this behavior. Extortion and trying to force someone to sell or move is not acceptable and the Lindens should investigate. Just because someone has lots of cash doesn't mean they, or anyone else, should be treated like this.

If they litter your land again, IM a Linden. If they threaten anything in IMs or Chat, log it and abuse report it. If their trash on thier land overhangs yours, IM a Linden and abuse report it.

More SA crap??

Really? Perhaps you could discuss the ethics of passing land between two groups to get around paying land-tier fees using the group land-tier grace period. I hear that some land barons did that. What makes that subject really interesting is that it actually took RL money out the pocket of LL, which makes it RL theft.

Please, demonstrate your understanding of ethics to us.

~Ulrika~

Read the post again.



(emphasis mine)

What rubbish. You have no clue and since months constantly spill half truths and lies about my person to stir up jealousy, fear or whatever you want people feel against me.

Don't you one day get tired of stalking people on forums like this? What is your obsession with my person? Are you one griefer yourself or simply starving for attention?

Anshe, I would've thought a bit back ago I'd be the last to agree with you in the forums, but this time you are TOTALLY right. This extortion thing should not be acceptable, as it could happen to any of us! Anyone who pays those ppl just encourages them more. (LOL, just like the terrorist theme in RL, when they ask for money.)

BTW, next time you SHOULD just blur that L$ part of the screen, it's better for all. I think you've worked for your money, doing business, so you have right to every last L$ there, but some ppl might not see this at first.

I think that amount of money (if it's 20 000 USD) isn't THAT much, I mean, for a US tech worker or a doctor it should be 2-5 month's wages converted to L$.

Z

PS: I know you might have a reason for those 'For Sale' signs, but still, I just HATE them.

Look. My point is, she could end this with a phone call. It's -not good business sense- for LL to keep their biggest customer unhappy.

And I think that Anshe -knows- this, but she's starting this thread for some sort of sympathy.

You know what Im gonna stay out of this one but will say Anshe doesnt deserve to be targeted like this for griefing and extortion.

Shadow

What the heck is wrong with some of you?

These people are acting completely innapropriately, yet because they are doing it to someone you don't like, it's alright.

I... ah... buh...

*shakes her head and walks out*

Oh cripes, if we have to have good reasons to open up threads, we're all in trouble

Not meaning to laugh Anshe, but; that picture is funny.

And i think you are definately bashing the wrong target here. She is being targeted by an abuse and you attack HER?
Interesting...
Calling LL would probably solve the problem, true, but then people would still be obvlivious of what those griefers do and who they are. Sometimes some good old public finger pointing helps people know who they shouldnt turn their back to.

Anshe, first of all, what these people are doing is wrong.

But to be honest, after watching you callously destroy Rose Market while ignoring protests that were flooding in, I'm not sympathetic.

There were several people who were offering to assist you in making Rose profitable in order to retain this year-old landmark. Rose Market was one of the most pleasant-to-shop markets on SL (as opposed to these big, ugly strip malls we constantly see everywhere). All that it needed was some rennovating and proper management. But you ignored all those protests and requests in favor of the almighty L$ and you ripped Rose to bare land.

So in this case, although I strongly disagree with extortion of any kind, I have to agree with one the other users. You have 5 million L$. You're the mighty land baron who makes her own decisions regardless of the wishes of other people. So intending no disrespect, but laying it out straight-- fight your own battles. Don't call for help from people you care nothing about.

My understanding of ethics for example include that you don't make false accusations against one whole group of people based on rumors your heared from somebody somewhere.

Sorry you get no sympathy from me although it was wrong what they did

Applauds Anshe! You go girl!

as for her money, congrats on doing well in SL.

Cat

Suit yourself. Instead, let's discuss the ethics of dismantling Rose Market, shall we?

Please, we humbly await your moral guidance.

~Ulrika~

Talen decided to no longer continue Rose market and put the land for sale. Only because I did not decide to run market there does not make me destroy it.

There also was no flood of protests coming in. It was mostly you posing to become "market manager" so you could play V.I.P. in market while somebody else pays the tier.

Flaming me now because I did not spend my money to pay for your playground is nothing but dispicable.

I wonder what the W stands for? lol.

Anshe, nobody should have to put up with the sort of extortion you're facing. Whether they joined SL two weeks ago, or a year ago, whether they have L$5, or L$5,000,000, nobody should be griefed.

Maybe that's something people lose sight of. I'm mostly disappointed by some of the responses on this thread. Some folks have ceded whatever high ground they may have had.

Good luck, I hope the conflict is resolved peacefully and withing the ToS/AR system.

Why didn't you buy Rose Market and pay monthly tier to continue it? How about the other 15 malls that closed during past two weeks?

Rose Market was closed by Talen and land put for sale. It was his market and on his land so he could do it within all legal and moral right. And whoever buys land can do with it whatever feel fit.

How moral do YOU think it is to try dictate to other people what they do on the land they bought?