More land extorsion: W-Hat group
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Anshe Chung
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01-14-2005 10:01
Two days ago I bought land in Baku. Much of Baku belongs to one group called W-Hat and one of their members approached me about buying my land, offering low price below market. When I refused he told me they would be able to buy it cheap soon anyway because nobody wants to live next to them, pointing me at one junkyard of items on their plot in the sim.
The next day my land was littered with junk from them. I remove it.
Today my land was littered with junk again. And they have bought one little 512sqm piece in the middle of my land and littered it with ugly, moving rotating headache producing junk, deeply overlapping into neighbour plots. That very 512sqm piece has also been set for sale for 20000 L$.
Well, I thought I would share this with you. Of course I filed abuse report, but last time I reported similar case in other sim nothing happened. So I would also like to hear from one Linden what policy is on this kinda behaviour. Or is this one valid business practise to force people sell their land cheap or to extort money from neighbours?
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Goodwrench Grayson
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01-14-2005 10:03
Wow. Two words for them - "ass hat"
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Lo Jacobs
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01-14-2005 10:09
I lived in Baku -- I had an itty bitty 512 plot next to them -- and while they didn't try to junk me out, the red bars around their plot and the ugly factory build was so unpleasant that I just sold my land to them. They aren't fun neighbors.
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MrsJakal Suavage
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01-14-2005 10:14
wow.....look at your bank total!!! your a rich business woman! 5million lindens Back to the topic tho. I agree that is very annoying and very clear what they are doing. I hope that the lindens do take notice. Highly unlikely tho. I think they have more pressing matters to deal with. Good Luck MJ
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Alexa Hope
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01-14-2005 10:20
It is atrocious behaviour. Anshe, how about building very high walls on your land around their small plot. Make the walls high enough and they will need an X flight carbon rod to go high enough to reach their land. You can put an attractive texture on your side and leave their's default. Is this against the TOS?
Alexa
PS - wow what a bank total lol
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Charlotte Gillespie
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01-14-2005 10:22
Not good for the neighbours - but kudos to them for the use of the Devastatin' Dave album cover 
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Kurt Zidane
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01-14-2005 10:23
that sucks :\ I hope lindon labs reacts to their abuse. it certainly sound as if that their intent. You could try some good old reverse cycology on them.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-14-2005 10:26
Holy shit. You have L$5.4 million (in your screen shot) and you're asking us for help?
Buy the land, stupid.
~Ulrika~
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Belaya Statosky
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01-14-2005 10:26
This is the Very Special Episode of SL Forums where we all put aside our differences and work together for a common goal.
P.S. Ashne, money pls.
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Anshe Chung
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01-14-2005 10:27
From: MrsJakal Suavage I think they have more pressing matters to deal with. Well, I wonder what can be more pressing than members in one online community blackmailing other members for money or land. Just last week another person called Biffy Pendragon started to pull off similar things to extort money from people and his extorsion towers have still not been removed by Lindens. I know at least one person who gave in and bought him out. I predict this will practise will spread rapidly if people can get away with it  Attached you find one of Biffy's towers (located in Ontario). It has rapidly flickering and moving red/green textures that are very good at produce headaches or crash certain GFX cards.
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Jonquille Noir
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01-14-2005 10:29
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Holy shit. You have L$5.4 million (in your screen shot) and you're asking us for help?
By the land, stupid.
~Ulrika~ What difference does it make how much money she has? It's acceptable to act this way as long as your victim has money? Utter bullshit. And it's "buy", stupid.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-14-2005 10:31
From: Jonquille Noir And it's "buy", stupid. Oops! Thanks Jonquille. I fixed it up.  ~Ulrika~
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Michi Lumin
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01-14-2005 10:31
You have five million L$.
Do something about it. Blackmail them yourself. Hire someone to take care of them for you. Call in a favor. You control most of SL. Why are you complaining to us?
SL is your plaything and you have over US$20,000 in your account.
You don't think that if you called up Linden Lab, that they wouldn't have ANYONE who bothered you removed in the blink of an eye?
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Anshe Chung
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01-14-2005 10:32
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Holy shit. You have L$5.4 million (in your screen shot) and you're asking us for help?
By the land, stupid.
~Ulrika~ Of course. I could just pay the mafia and let them move on to next victim. Maybe I should hire them to grief you instead? Fortunately there is something called ethics and moral principle. And one of my moral principle is not give in to griefers as it will only feed them and make them look for more victims.
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Michi Lumin
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01-14-2005 10:34
From: Jonquille Noir What difference does it make how much money she has? It's acceptable to act this way as long as your victim has money? Utter bullshit.
And it's "buy", stupid. Huh. You must be filthy rich RL too to have sympathy for someone like this. Anshe could have *ANYTHING* done that she wanted in SL with the snap of her fingers. Money is power. And Anshe has all of both. This is a plea for attention. She's not a -victim- of anything. Anshe could get most anyone in SL completely wiped off the map if she desired.
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Michi Lumin
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01-14-2005 10:35
From: Anshe Chung Of course. I could just pay the mafia and let them move on to next victim. Maybe I should hire them to grief you instead? You most certainly could. From: Anshe Chung Fortunately there is something called ethics and moral principle. And I have yet to meet a staggeringly wealthy person who has either.
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Anshe Chung
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01-14-2005 10:35
From: Michi Lumin Do something about it. Blackmail them yourself. Hire someone to take care of them for you. Call in a favor. You control most of SL. Why are you complaining to us? Because I am not one mafia queen. Maybe if you would have my money that is your method. But it is not my method of handle such things.
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Michi Lumin
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01-14-2005 10:36
Anshe. You run SL. You wouldn't even have to do anything. Fear is all you'd need, with your power.
But you already know that. And it's stupid of me to even be going up against you, because you could erase me in a second. But sometimes I guess I just can't bite my tongue.
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Ahkin Pierce
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01-14-2005 10:38
WOW. Thats Like 20,000 US DOLLARS, Right?
OH *slaps self in head.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE BULLYING YOU LIKE THAT
did you think of giving them a Million to all leave the game?
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Jonquille Noir
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01-14-2005 10:39
From: Michi Lumin Huh. You must be filthy rich RL too to have sympathy for someone like this.
Anshe could have *ANYTHING* done that she wanted in SL with the snap of her fingers. Money is power. And Anshe has all of both. This is a plea for attention. She's not a -victim- of anything. Anshe could get most anyone in SL completely wiped off the map if she desired. Sorry, I don't subscribe to that particular conspiracy theory. Money in SL is not power, it's money. She can buy a lot in world, or she can cash out and buy a Honda. That's about it. I don't see what my finances in world or out has to do with it. If W-Hat was doing this to anyone else, everyone would be calling them assholes, but because they're doing it to someone with money, it's okay. No, it isn't. They're being assholes. They're griefing. Regardless of who the victim is, the act is the same. To claim otherwise is just hypocricy.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-14-2005 10:41
From: Anshe Chung Fortunately there is something called ethics and moral principle. And one of my moral principle is not give in to griefers as it will only feed them and make them look for more victims.  Anshe lecturing Ulrika about ethics is like a porcupine lecturing a pillow about being soft. ~Ulrika~
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Anshe Chung
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01-14-2005 10:44
From: Ulrika Zugzwang  Anshe lecturing Ulrika about ethics is like a porcupine lecturing a pillow about being soft. ~Ulrika~ No it isn't. I think I understand a lot more about ethics than you.
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Michi Lumin
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01-14-2005 10:44
From: Jonquille Noir Sorry, I don't subscribe to that particular conspiracy theory. Money in SL is not power, it's money. She can buy a lot in world, or she can cash out and buy a Honda. That's about it.
I don't see what my finances in world or out has to do with it. If W-Hat was doing this to anyone else, everyone would be calling them assholes, but because they're doing it to someone with money, it's okay. No, it isn't. They're being assholes. They're griefing. Regardless of who the victim is, the act is the same. To claim otherwise is just hypocricy. If ANYONE has had problems with W-Hat, it's been me. No doubt, not for a second. But Anshe is practically a Linden Lab board member at this point. I don't understand why she's going to the forums for sympathy. Hell, she could hire a lawyer for a -pittance- . Anshe is a RL millionaire who has passed at least one million USD through SL. This is something else. If she had a problem, she'd solve it. Maybe she will eventually "solve" W-Hat. I wouldn't mind that. But she's doing this for another reason.
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Charlotte Gillespie
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01-14-2005 10:44
It's "a group", not "one group". Not being funny, just a quick correction 
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Lo Jacobs
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01-14-2005 10:44
From: Michi Lumin Anshe. You run SL. You wouldn't even have to do anything. Fear is all you'd need, with your power.
But you already know that. And it's stupid of me to even be going up against you, because you could erase me in a second. But sometimes I guess I just can't bite my tongue. Whooooeeeee *wiggles fingers* ghost stories! Watch out, guys! Anshe's in the closet and she's going to get you. Keep your kids safe! I'm with Jonquille on this one. Ok, Anshe's richer than all hell and it's pennies if she buys these guys out. But, y'know, W-Hat does that to other people as well and I think that is also part of her point. I was not threatened personally when I lived next to their VERY tall wall, but I WAS on this 512 plot of land and they'd bought the folks behind me, in front of me, and were gaining on the land on the other side as well. They've got rotating objects and particles up the wazoo. I do not blame her one bit.
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