Atheists who attack Christianity

You didnt read my post very clearly. First off I said that I refuse to get into a debate with a liberal like yourself since your not going to even consider what I have to say anyway. Also note the words "poke fun" in reference to how I would respond to your post. Oh and the "Grow Up" was friendly advice. Its kinda a nicer way of saying "Get your head out of your ass."

And Finally Im still waiting for my pie!

*Takes Mike and Siro hostage and puts them in the same holding room with Joy as she waits for the pictures of pie*

Let's just hope that it ENDS!

*adds Devin to her collection*

Careful there. The reference here to children might mean anyone descended from a certain tribe or race. The commitee that King James had formed to put the bible together didn't do the greatest job of translating or transliterating. Or of even choosing what books to include in the bible.

Part of the problem is there isn't A Christian church. There are MANY of them. Over 2500 registered sects of Christianity. Any nut case can start his own church.

And Christians can ask why they were fed to lions 2000 years ago. There are zaelots and bigots on BOTH sides of the issue. Christians and atheists both.

Nope, I read it very clearly. I read the part about half-way through where you said you weren't going to debate me. Then you went and did just that.

I did consider what you said. I disagreed with it. I presented my counter argument.

So why do you think my head is up my ass? What have I said that could trigger such a response? Are you so unpleasant to anybody who disagrees with you?

I have seen a lot of mention of fear and lack of understanding. Again, I say that is generalizing to the extreme. I don't believe MOST Christians fear other non-Christians, I think MOST just don't agree. I don't believe MOST non-Christians fear Christians, I think MOST just don't agree.

In my family...
My mother is a devout catholic.
My son is a Christian currently in training to be a pastor.
My daughter at the moment admits she has no idea what she believes but she does enjoy sitting in church and making faces at her brother when he's speaking and is the first to admit that every once in awhile he says something that makes her think.
Their father is a declared athiest.
I tend to lean more toward a Goddess theory. My reasons for my leanings (and no I will not get into it, I do not try to sway others to my theories nor do I wish to have them flamed) some Christians would find offensive.
My sister also catholic, less devout than my mother but enough so she admits she's "wrong" for not attending confession regularly enough.
My brother has currently been researching and interested in Taoism.
The rest of my very large family all go in various directions with their beliefs.

Somehow we all manage to live and love and get along together without fearing, despising, or trying to indoctrinate one another. I believe most of society is like us. It's the loudmouths who get all the attention and make the groups they claim to belong to look bad and every group has their loudmouths.

And with that I am off to bed finally, goodnight all and enjoy

No im just generally unpleasant at 3:30am while im waiting on pictures of pie

Except it wasn't the Atheists who fed the Christians to the lions. The Romans were polytheists. In fact, the Romans charged the Christians with atheism because the Christians refused to believe the Emperor was divine.

Maybe you shouldn't type so late?

You know you're not being a very good hostage...

Sorry, but the 'fact' that you believe in one god could make you a Christian, a muslim, or a Jew.

I would *love* to be a fly on the wall when you all have a religious discussion!

You darn Christians and Athiests.... You are not respecting my beliefs!

This is an abomination, someone ban this "art"!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111


*Whines* Where is a Agnostic Linden when you need one?!

Ah... Pascal's Wager...

It doesn't work.


If Christianity is wrong and Islam is right, what happens when you die? You go to hell... So, as a Christian, the worst that can happen to you is.... torture for all eternity. (and Muslims get a better heaven too... if you want to wager, got for Islam. You get much better rewards for the same risk. )

The problem with Pascal's Wager is it assumes there are only 2 options... Christianity or Atheism. Since that is incredibly inaccurate, the Wager is worthless as an argument.


Not that it stops some Christians using it... I generally run into it at least once a month.

Oh it will, not with a bang, but with a locking.

When I read a thread that contains what you would say was an attack on Christianity it mostly seems to start with someone commenting on or being upset by some outrageous statement or act done by a so called Christian in the name of Christianity.

Surely you understand why people would want to defend themselves?

As for the very few who blatently attack unprovoked, then lets just say if you really believe then you'll have the LAST laugh.

Ok, how about me? I'm a conservative Christian, will you debate with me?



Pascal's Wager is a sham. Even assuming Christianity was the only religion, which would leave it a 2x2 matrix (And since Christianity, hell any branch of Judaeism for that matter, patantly ISN'T the only religion, not even the only monotheistic one, it's most assuredly not a 2x2 matrix), the concept is still inherently flawed: Belief in a thing is not a result of "playing it safe". You either do or you dont - you can't just "decide" to believe in God to "hedge your bets".



It's not something from nothing. It's one state of existance to another. Before you discount a scientific theory, you should actually study said scientific theory, beyond just the soundbite version.

And it is in no way entitlement, I don't think that word means what you think it means.



And you are proof that most Christians don't even try to understand Athiests. On the flipside, a lot of Athiests started out life as Christian, suggesting they very likely understand it a lot better than you think.



No, but apparently you are, when you said that they all fear the worship of God.



You're right, it doesn't - But it's something to keep in mind before you try to claim superiority.



Actually, I think your missing the single most important thing you need to be a Christian, and God, while important, is not what makes one a Christian.

Actually, as I pointed out last year, there is a lot of evidence in the Bible that would make Christians themselves at risk. I see my being an atheist as staying on the safe side. I see a bible with a God that told the Jewish people to kill all women and children when they took over their country. I see a God that calls himself a shepherd that wants to put me into his body, and who says I must die if I want to live. Shepherd raise sheep that are actually good to eat. When you eat something it dies and goes into your body where it becomes living tissue again, but it is no longer what it was. It is now a part of you. There is only way for all strife and sorrow to end, and that is for people to lose free will. Only when everyone has the same objectives, personalities, and set of morals will all stife and sorrow end. The paradise described in the Bible sounds like a collection of drones that are in harmony because of their lack of individuality. I'll stick to the safe side of things, and I will stay an atheist that will never have to go to the nightmare disguised as paradise in the Bible.

I'm an extremist though. Feel free to ignore my thoughts. I expect that.

Because they want to turn the United States into a Theoracy

Not so much.

If we did that we wouldn't be free to practice our religion without Government interference.

We want to practice our faith as we see fit, without the threat of a few atheist activists insisting what we can do personally on public land or government interference.

An example is the Atheist dad who sued to stop personal prayers at graduation. These are not state sponsored prayers. Who was being harmed by these personal prayers?

I personally don't pray in public, but if some kid wants to thank God in public, why are these very few atheists worried? Do they think their child will be converted to Christianity by hearing a prayer?

That was off topic a bit, as the thread concerns the forum, not the general public

Here is a good example from Central California:

Local fundie church fills a public parking lot next to a Wiccan book store that was having its opening day. The fundies played loud music and told the sheriff that James Dobson would get him if he interfeared.

This happened in 1998 and is documented Witchvox.org