Atheists who attack Christianity

(Edit: This used to be a cartoon of baby moses parting his bath water while his mother asked him to stop showing off.)

I think we need a holy war sub category in off-topic.

I love that one, Ulrika.

Yes! I love how Christians of yore all possessed their own unique magical powers, kind of like a biblical Justice League.

~Ulrika~

No kidding.

And the best way to keep from being bothered by Jehovah's Witnesses is to put a neatly-lettered sign on your door saying "No Soliciting, Please - We're Apostates".

In several years of living in JW-dense neighborhoods, I have never once been preached at while hanging that sign.

(Also fun is offering coffee to mormon missionaries.)

another fun thing to do, walk to the door holding a liquor bottle it will drive them crazy

Examples please.

Or if we're looking at all attacks on anything ever, I want an explantion as to why Atheists were rounded up and burned alive in metal bulls in the middle ages by Christians. I just want to understand the thought process, just to be sure I'm metal-bull-burned-alive safe before venturing out onto the public green, so to speak.

Three words

Baby

Jesus

Buttplug

'nuff said

-Jennyfur

WWJD?

Turn the other cheek?

Don't forget, Jesus was also known to use a whip to drive the money changers from the temple.

More mistranslations, Kevn?

Read up, hon.

You need to study the Bible more I think.

http://www.anabaptistnetwork.com/node/165

John 2:14-16 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
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14And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:

15And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

16And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

Saturday night hubby was doing the cooking (BBQ) - he was nude, had not shaved for two days, his hair was messy and the door bell rang. He threw on a robe that was not too tightly drawn and answered the door with a HUGE carrot & knife in one hand and a bottle of Jack Daniels in the other.

Just the way it happend you know.

It was the local Witness brigade. OMG what must they have thought??

Particularly when he said, as he always does in these situations... "I worship the great carrot".

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Exactly. A Mistranslation.

You do know the New Testament wasn't written in English --right?

Yes, There are many "translations" from the original texts, all verified by the Dead Sea Scrolls. Can you provide a translation, that disagrees with all other translations, to support your point?

I did in my link. Kevn.

http://www.anabaptistnetwork.com/node/165

read it again.

Why are you attacking the Bible, now?

Then maybe you need to take a good hard look at those you call Christians as they make a career out of atacking and bashing. Not a very Christian thing to do. Or dare I bring up the Inquisition, The Crusades, The Catholic atacks on the knights templar, Witch Trials. An over all very bloody history for those who profess universal love. Beter read your book a bit more closely. ESPECIALLY this passage.

John 10:16 " And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."

Amen, Der! Violence is the solution to anything when God be on your side. Happy Crusade!

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps - as a forum to discuss a game - that just maybe your proslyetizing, self-martyrdom, and smiley threats aren't all that apropos or welcome? May I come to your next revival tent and talk everyone's ear off about World of Warcraft and tell them they will go to hell if they don't play? Would it be an attack if people ignored me or made fun of me?

I personally like to let the mormons come in, and I ask questions about verses with contradictions. They always have one person that knows the apologetics for every thing their book says, but it is always interesting to see if the other missionary gets a questioning look on his face showing that he has a seed of doubt now.

One such contradiction is (Alma 7:10) "And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin."

This clearly in contradiction with even the bible they have re-written which says Jesus was born in Jerusalem. The answer I normally get as an excuse is that Bethlehem was like a suburb of Jurusalem, which is true to some extent today. I still don't buy that the "perfect" translation of Joseph Smith would make the city Jerusalem in his translation of his tablets and Bethlehem in his translation of the bible. Perfect would have named the city Bethlehem.

For original poster:

I point out the contradictions in the bible as well if Christians are trying to convert me. I would learn about Islam and point its problems as well, but I've never had a Muslim try to convert me. I have no problem with people that want to believe what they want. I don't go out looking for people to convert to atheism, but if someone comes to me trying to convert me, then I will tell them exactly why I believe nothing in their religion. I personally consider that self-defense rather than attacking.

And which translation exactly is that? I was absolutely unaware the Anabaptist's have their own translation of the Bible.

Or are you suggesting the interpretation by the Anabaptists is the correct one, even though it contradicts every translation?

Lastly, are you an Anabaptist? If not, what makes you so sure they are correct?

BBL

I agree completely with you here. The real question is how much longer do we have before the christian fundamentalists start acting like the Muslim fundamentalists? That's one of the real drives behind keeping christianity out of govenment; we know where religion-based states go, not only from history, but also in modern practice.

I can drive you out of a bar with a spatula and never even touch you. You win the amateur theologian award today; God smileth upon thee.

First off, I don't consider myself an "atheist" as such because the term implies the opposite of something called "theist," which in turn implies that "theism" is at least arguably legitimate, which it isn't. I'm not an atheist. Nor am I an a-alchemist, aflat-Earthist, asorceryist, ageocentrist, or the like. In the same way that those ideas fail to justify themselves enough even to earn the right to be opposed (rather than flatly dismissed), so do organized religions fail to justify themselves. It's not merely that I "don't believe in God," it's that I don't view "God" any differently than I view Zeus, Aphrodite, Freya or Thor, just to name a few.

As for the question posed, I attack Christianity, along with other, similar organized religions, for the same reason I attack Nazi philosophy: it deserves to be attacked. The religious are essentially either "moderates" (people who ignore their books where the commands become inconvenient) or "fundamentalists/extremists" (true believers who follow their books more or less to the letter). The former group serves as enablers, creating a situation where it's positively forbidden to even discuss the illegitimacy of religion because you're "attacking their beliefs," while the latter form the scary groups like dominionists, destructionists and suicide bombers. And the really scary thing about the latter group is that they're just doing what the books really say. The Crusades, the Inquisition, the witch burnings ... those people weren't misunderstanding their religious texts. Rather, they actually read them, cover-to-cover, and took them to heart. Yes, the Christian God wants heresy eradicated, and he wants you to kill your neighbor to do it. That's what the Bible actually says.

Today, "moderates" read those texts selectively, taking what they can fit comfortably into their modern lives and discarding the rest. By themselves, they're (mostly) harmless, but by virtue of the fact that they effectively stifle serious discussion of the legitimacy of religion, they're just as dangerous as the "extremists" -- the true believers -- they effectively protect.

If you declare yourself a follower of Zeus and claim that he really exists and inhabits animals, that your dog is in fact Zeus incarnate and can do magic, and that aliens from Jupiter periodically visit your home, people will consider you crazy, and you will probably at least be kept away from positions of responsibility. At the very least, they will demand proof, and "have faith" won't be accepted as an answer.

If you declare that the creator of the universe is invisible, omnipresent, and simultaneously three beings and one being, that more than two thousand years ago, a supernatural savior who could and did do magic visited us, was executed but came back to life and thereby became a universal scapegoat for all of our wrongdoings for all time (but it only works if you believe in him), and that said savior can now be eaten at your local church in the form of cheap wine and little disc-shaped crackers ... well golly gosh gee, that's perfectly acceptable, and no proof is needed (just have faith)!

What's more, if you question the acceptability of this, you're a horrible person who's attacking someone's cherished beliefs because people get to believe whatever they want with no justification whatsoever, no matter how insane it is, without even the slightest questioning of it allowed (at least as long as their beliefs are in line with a major organized religion). So by questioning them, you're attacking them! You bad person you.