Atheists who attack Christianity

Being an athiest of religious Jewish background and a bit of a talmudist, I might be more capable of unbiased reasoning than you.

As you've admitted. You're a blind follower to (presumably) the KJB, which is at best a translation of a translation of a translation.

The Anabaptists presented a case for interpretation that I found made more sense given not only the context of an all-loving, non-violent god but of common sense.


They provided reasons for why they surmise bad mistranslations, and backed it up.

That's how

Much as I hesitate to jump into this thread – which will doubtless (as one contributor has already pointed out) end badly – I'm afraid the urge to fisk is just too strong.



<sigh>

Look, Kevn - atheism, by definition, is an absence of what you mean by a belief system.

OK, so technically one could argue that it's entirely possible to be atheistic (i.e. to have no theism, or belief in the existence of deities of any kind), and yet still be possessed of a clear belief system, grounded presumably on purely moral or humanistic principles (cf. naturalistic pantheism, the Fellowship of Reason, Brianism, etc.) But I find that fixing my pedantry solely within the specific compass of your own rather narrow argument is so much more entertaining, don't you think?

For the record, then, while I can offer no particular illumination on the topic of atheists who attack Christianity (merely continuing >600 years of tradition, perhaps?), yet I would suggest that your theory as to why these attacks occur is both poorly argued and inherently flawed.

Aye thenk ewe.

Oh, and btw: Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

Good gracious! If the guidelines forbade proselytizing, self-martyrdom, and smiley threats, these forums would be a dusty ghost town.

I'm thinking of a nation-state that is currently run by a christian fundamentalist, but I don't know of any ill that has come of it, except perhaps a jihad or two, oh and oposition to a unified European currency because that's one of the horsemen of the apocalypse, and oh yeah, and discarding due process because we know infidels when we see them because of the horns on their head, but aside from that I don't really see any harm.

If that ever happens, get pictures, k?

I love watching all the new players try to debate with Kevn, it's so entertaining!

Full speed ahead!

What if your Agnostic and just dont care?

Then you'll get Chip in here talking about definitions and semantics ^_^

But you won't care, so it's all good.

What happens is, when all the athiests and christians kill eachother off, the agnostics will be left to party!

Without reading any of this thread except skimming this page... Put me down for two servings of the above, please.

Greedy mfer

I bury the extra servings of don't-give-a-damn under ground, along with my cache of acorns, saving it for the cold winter of religious threads in the future.

As snacks for the spectators?

I respectfully disagree. Atheism is the belief there is no God, making it a belief system. Atheists believe there is no God. That is a belief system.

It's the doctrine that there is no God or gods.

When someone tells me how to live, spams forums with dogma, and shoves their views in my face... yeah, I'll fight back.

Good for you. Me too. Let's join forces to stomp out the propaganda.

I changed my text before your post to express what I meant to say a little more clearly.

Here's an interesting read, since contradictions were mentioned earlier:

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

Chronic, I'll tell you now, you've met the king of contradictions right here in this very thread. Continue to try and debate if you wish, it makes for fun reading!

Actually it did. I believe the wording was "atheistic attack" on Christianity. He didn't say "some atheists." And the part about his never "attacking" other religions isn't true either. Ask him about Roman Catholicism sometime.

No. Wrong. Absolutely untrue.

The Dead Sea scrolls do not contain ANY material from the New Testament. None. Not at all. Not a single sentence from a single book of the New Testament. So, they can't "verify" any translation of the material you just quoted. Sorry.

you do know that there are books that were left out of the bible right? They found one in North Africa.

Yes. But those are not the Dead Sea Scrolls. Those are from the Nag Hammadi find. Most of them were written a couple of centuries after Jesus' time. The Dead Sea Scrolls were written just before or during Jesus' time. The Dead Sea Scrolls don't mention Jesus at all. The books found at Nag Hammadi (the Gospel of Judas, the Gospel of Mary) do cover the life of Jesus.

just making sure you were aware of them, seems you know more about them than I.

They corroborate the New Testament. Thereby strengthening the veracity of the documents.