Atheists who attack Christianity

I would be delighted if you would point out another Atheist doctrine that i missed other than the whole "There is no God" bit. Frankly im pretty sure I got it pretty much understood. As for generalizing well yeah Im talking about Atheists who attack Christianity, like the topic title says. Not all atheists are activists just like how not all Christians are Fundamentalists. While we are on that note I highly reccomend Handmaids Tale to all Second Lifers particulary those little boys and girls in the whole bondage thing who seriously need sex education.

Moving on some of my best friends in SL are atheists. But im a Christian and since they as individuals have not attacked me I will not individually attack them.

It was ignorant by design, I believe.

~Ulrika~

Where oh where to start?

Atheism is simple? Actually having to ask "where did we come from" and come up with a reasonable, scientific explanation of the origin of the cosmos, the origin of life and the process of evolution is simple? Isn't it simpler to say, "God did it"?

There was no "war on Christmas". Sorry, just Fox News Propaganda. Didn't happen.

Restoring the Pledge of Allegiance to its original wording isn't anti-Christian. Christians were the ones who changed it in the 1950's. Along with changing the national motto from E Pluribus Unum, which had worked for well over a century, to "In God We Trust." Just because some Atheists want to restore things to the way they were before, doesn't make it anti-Christian. If Christians hadn't taken it upon themselves to force the rest of us to live under their motto and their version of the Pledge of Allegiance, none of this would be happening today. It was our way first. Then the Christians decided to change things. Now we want to change them back, and you ignorantly assume it is us that are attacking you. Amazing. Simply Amazing.

And your premise that Atheists don't understand Christians is baseless. Not sharing somebody's religion is not the equivalent of not understanding.

Atheists are not offended by the "mere sight of the practice of the Christian religion." Most of them don't mind it at all when Christians actually do practice their religion. When Christians try to make the rest of us pay for that practice by having our tax money go for their religious displays we might get upset. We might not want our money spent to support your religion. Seems fair. In America you have the right and the ability to practice your own religion. Pay for it yourself.

And as for the "they are wrong" statement, really? Does it stand up to historical scrutiny? How have Christians treated Atheists over the centuries? It seems to me, that it is the Christians who fear the Atheists. And do they fear them because they worry the Atheists might be right?

There isn't a such thing as atheist doctrine (somewhat of an oxymoron right there). If you want to assert a god, be prepared to prove it. As Atheists are not the ones creating fiction from nothing, they do not need to prove to you that your fiction is fiction.

I'm not going to quote your whole post, it will take up too much room and time, no offense. I'm a long winded poster too.

Your statements made a lot of the same generalizations about athiests (or rather what you assume athiests to be) that some people make about Christians.

Christians often get lumped together with fanatics. ie: The assumption that all christians want to cram their religion down people's throats because some annoying ones like to knock on doors and preach.

Another example is pro-life activists. A few nutjobs shoot some doctors and everyone is lumped in to the generalization that all pro-lifers are dangerous fanatical nutjobs.

No one likes that, in fact the Christians I've heard hate it. It hurts them.

But see you just did the same thing to athiests.
I personally don't know any who are offended, annoyed sometimes maybe, but by the pressure they are subjected to by SOME christians, not by the mere practice of the christian faith.
You have your fanatics, they have theirs. Is it fair to assume that every athiest wants the pledge of allegiance banned because a select few do? Any more fair than assuming that all christians have the potential to blow up a building because Timothy MkVay (sp?) said he was christian once? Or any more fair than assuming that all Muslims want to destroy the US because some fanatics on planes called themselves Muslim? Or any more fair than assuming.... ?
Hmmmm could it maybe go the other way too?...... "And before anyone says anything about Athiests fearing Christians, its not that we fear them, its more like we shake our heads and ask what the heck are you people thinking, and then quietly go on with our lives while Christians try in vain to change the world." (Except that I don't happen to think trying to change the world is ever an action done in vain, there is something positive and useful in just the trying. But that's another topic. )
Have you ever asked an athiest if they "don't believe in anything"?

But do you see? By lumping all non-Christians together with those negative examples you commit the same offense so many Christians have to deal with. You've just done to them what they've been accused of doing to you.

who's winning?

The brick wall

Wow wow where to start.

First off the board is called "Atheists who attack Christianity" I decided to simply write Atheists instead of Atheists who attack Christianity because my fingers hurt already.

Tisk tisk Siro, I need do not need to prove the existance of God to you anymore than you need to try and disprove His existance to me. And why you wrap your brain around this take a gamble for once since Im willing to bet you have no moral qualms against it. The odds are in your favor if your a Christian: If Christianity is correct (Which I have made quite clear that I believe it is) then if you die and you are a Christian you get to go to Heaven and meet exciting people, like Teddy Roosevelt and Jesus! If you are not a Christian you go to hell which sucks. Now lets flip it around and just for kicks say that Christianity is wrong. Ok so then no matter what you do in life, when you die thats it. So lets recap. If you are a Christian than the worst that can happen to you when you die is nothing. So care to wager?

Michael..Michael...wait I remember you, werent you that Iraqi Information Minister that said all those funny things about there not being any Americans in Baghdad?

Seriously though it would be in vain to argue with you cause I believed I covered in one of my previous posts in a different topic how its a waste of time to argue with someone who isnt going to even consider what you have to say. (The Fox News Propoganda remark gave you away my Liberal friend )

Well im going to go partially against my remarks in that post and try to poke fun with a little hint of hidden meaning to keep you fellows on your toes.

No war on Christmas? Of course there was, I was there.... *has flashbacks*

Reasonable scientific explanation = in the beginning there was nothing and it all came from a big exposion...yeah that makes perfect sense. Something from nothing...sounds like entitlement to me and i dont like that kinda stuff.

As for where babies come from I suggest you talk to your parents or maybe even read "Handmaid's Tale" as was suggested earlier.

My Liberal Friend you and some of the other people on this board (like good old Siro) are proof that Atheists do not understand Christians. The fact that that Christianity is a religion and Atheism is the lag there of has nothing to do with understanding.

Atheists are not offended by...so are you claiming to speak for all Atheists now?

Historical Scrutiny? Wow you guys love big words dont you? Seriously though its kinda sad to see you try to act smart so drop the bad acting. Whether somthing is right or wrong has absolutely nothing to do with how nice some group was to another group in the past.

In closing to you Mikey, GROW UP!

Ok, someone tell me "who" I am supposed to be. Surely extremists will want a label for me.

I believe in "God". Only One God...but I do not recognize, support, or feel that I NEED any Organized Religion of self appointed humans to be an official go between for myself and God. Nor do I think that God really would care about what Fraternity Club one is a member of.

I do not care what the "religion" is.

So, believe what you want to believe, pick your favorite religion and go for it, ...and do not try to push them on me.

I read no post longer than my hand.

~Ulrika~

*smiles warmly*

No one can tell you who you are supposed to be except you but moving on to what you are trying to say...

...The Fact that you believe in one God makes you a Christian. You don't need anything but God to be a Christian, religious groups help but they are by no means necessary for salvation. Let me clarify here. Belief in God means squat as far as salvation since even Satan believes that God exists. What is necessary for salvation is an acceptance that you are a sinner and that Jesus Christ is your savior...thats all. Other than that the different Christian religious groups are nice but not required.

Hope I was helpful to ya.

Bartender, I'll take a gin and tonic.

~Ulrika~

Im getting the feeling you really dont like me ^_^

I'm getting the feeling you don't like apostrophes.

~Ulrika~

Excuse me Elinea, I am not asking for anyone to tell me WHO I AM, I am talking about the LABEL that others would want to throw upon me.

Everyone else has a nice thing to call themselves, or others....Christians, Athiests, Agnositic....Baby Jesus ButtPlugs....( I like that one myself) (with proper precautions of course)

But, anyway, I digress...


I am sorry, but I am NOT a Christian. Flatly refuse it. Jesus is NOT my "savior". That would BE me. If anyone is to save myself, it would be ME. If anyone else is to save themselves, it must be them. No one else can do it.

Like I said earlier: Fear what they do not understand.

Well, not really. You see, Jewish people believe in God too, as do many other religions. Belief in God alone does not make people Christian. Christian = belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God. Your over-priced education is lacking.

So, I guess the people who do not believe that Jesus was the Son of God are all going to hell?

Who are you addressing? What statement are you countering? What points are you making? Can you provide any discourse beyond feigning pity towards what you claim are other people's inability to understand?

~Ulrika~

Can you post more pictures of pie please?

That's the ACLU thread

Can you post more unsupported statements that rely on mockery or feigned pity to give an illusion of verity?

~Ulrika~

I am taking you hostage until the crazy girl who doesnt like me releases the pictures of pie that she is holding captive. (Yeah I stop making any sense from 2:30am to about 10am Central Time and yes what I said in this post is a joke relating to the Israel vs. Hamas thing going on now in Gaza. And yes I demand more pictures of pie, I dont care what thread this is.)

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I like apostrophes!

Actually, if we're being scientific about this, you DO absolutely need to prove your god exists if you continue to claim such.




Well for one, I don't gamble. Especially not in cases where I can't make a reasonable assessment of outcomes based on past experiences or proven results (because there are none).

Now if you are also, in addition to asserting a god, also claim an afterlife; you need to prove that too. I can prove what happens to what you'll call your 'body' after you die. I can also prove what makes up your conciousness and morality in chemical terms. I don't have to disprove your afterlife. You have to prove it.

Yes, you die and that's it. Frankly, I thinks this view gives people a more pragmatic approach on morals and life. Essentially, hurting people is wrong as this is the only life they will ever have.

*waits patiently for pictures of pie*

Historical and scrutiny are big words for you? The Big Bang theory is a tad more complex than your understanding of it. Perhaps a basic book on astronomy is in order?

You misunderstood the last part of my post apparently. I didn't mean that how people treat one another indicates who is right and who is wrong. Your assertion was that Atheists feared Christians because Atheists knew deep down that Atheists were wrong. My response was that history shows Christians behaving abysmally toward Atheists and that perhaps it is the Christians who fear that they are wrong. See? You equate fear with wrong. I just pointed out that Christians seem to be the ones with the fear.

Oh, and you're so very, very wrong about Atheism being the "lag" (lack?) of religion. I am a very religious person. I don't believe in God. You can be both. There are millions of us.

Why the "Grow Up" though? What did I say that was childish? Or do you just resort to personal attacks when your logic fails?