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Cannae Brentano
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08-29-2006 11:25
From: Kendra Bancroft Please. The symbolism was that the USA was a forward thinking nation --and we were thumbing our noses at the sheiks. That was the intent, I don't dispute you there. But that's not what it inspired. I'm no fan or Reagan either, but when Nancy replaced the dishes, she was right. The president should not be sitting by a fire in his solar powered hose eating off of chipped dishes while entertaining the heads of state.
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-29-2006 11:27
From: Toni Bentham Aww, Kendra, that's so adorable! The fascist wing. You crack me up. Wow. Amazing how someone could just toss words around with and totally destroy their meaning.
You really think a Jew would create a fascist wing of anything? The real fascist wing of the Democratic Party is the Michael Moore/moveon.org wing. They want to expel anyone from the party who doesn't think like they do. They want to get elected based on fear. They're just like the right-wing wackos in the GOP who want to get rid of everyone who doesn't think the way they do. They're the same kind of people.
BTW, Lieberman's more of a Democrat than Reid is in my book. What kind of garbage is that? You think Jewish people can't be fascists? Do you even know what a fascist is? Lieberman isn't a Democrat in any way shape or form. He's a corporate fascist shill. You come across as more ignorant with each post. Not to mention racist. Tell me what you think fascism is.
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-29-2006 11:27
From: Cannae Brentano That was the intent, I don't dispute you there.
But that's not what it inspired.
I'm no fan or Reagan either, but when Nancy replaced the dishes, she was right.
The president should not be sitting by a fire in his solar powered hose eating off of chipped dishes while entertaining the heads of state. Why not?
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-29-2006 11:28
From: Cannae Brentano That was the intent, I don't dispute you there.
But that's not what it inspired.
I'm no fan or Reagan either, but when Nancy replaced the dishes, she was right.
The president should not be sitting by a fire in his solar powered hose eating off of chipped dishes while entertaining the heads of state. we do at my house? what you trying to say? hmm?
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Corvus Drake
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08-29-2006 11:32
From: Cannae Brentano That was the intent, I don't dispute you there.
But that's not what it inspired.
I'm no fan or Reagan either, but when Nancy replaced the dishes, she was right.
The president should not be sitting by a fire in his solar powered hose eating off of chipped dishes while entertaining the heads of state. Why would a President not want to represent the USA as being a technologically advanced, environmentally upright country?
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Cannae Brentano
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08-29-2006 11:33
From: Kendra Bancroft What kind of garbage is that? You think Jewish people can't be fascists? Do you even know what a fascist is? This is scary. I'm agreeing with Kendra. Why Germany became a facist state started long before Hitler was even born, and the horror of facism is not limited to Germany by any means. It could happen anywhere, the USA, Isreal, France, Inda, Luxemburg . Well, maybe not Luxemburg.  Recognizing the elements that allow facism to grow is the best way to stop it from ever happening. The US is not anything close to a facist state yet, but seeds are being planted and I fear for the next generation. Now please, respond with a conspiracy theory and make me disagree with you. Edited to specify the quote I am responding to.
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Toni Bentham
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08-29-2006 11:36
From: Kendra Bancroft What kind of garbage is that? You think Jewish people can't be fascists? Do you even know what a fascist is? Do you? Other than "Someone who disagrees with Kendra"? The DLC is centrist. From: someone Lieberman isn't a Democrat in any way shape or form. He's a corporate fascist shill. You come across as more ignorant with each post. Not to mention racist. Ahh yes, Oh Great One, because I disagree with you I Must Be Ignorant, and Racist. Speak of fascism...... All a Democrat is is someone who's registered as a Democrat. Grow up. To be a Democrat, you do not have to agree with anyone or anything, clearly. Get a basic understanding of American politics. Reid is more conservative than Lieberman. Look at this votes in the 105th Congress: Opposed to the GOP's attempts to limit abortion rights through the "partial birth abortion" red herring: Lieberman In favor of limiting the rights of women: Reid If anyone in that pair is a fascist, it's Harry Reid.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-29-2006 11:36
From: Cannae Brentano This is scary. I'm agreeing with Kendra. Why Germany became a facist state started long before Hitler was even born, and the horror of facism is not limited to Germany by any means. It could happen anywhere, the USA, Isreal, France, Inda, Luxemburg . Well, maybe not Luxemburg.  Recognizing the elements that allow facism to grow is the best way to stop it from ever happening. The US is not anything close to a facist state yet, but seeds are being planted and I fear for the next generation. Now please, respond with a conspiracy theory and make me disagree with you. Edited to specify the quote I am responding to. where's Inda? I can't find it on the map.
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Cannae Brentano
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08-29-2006 11:39
From: Billybob Goodliffe we do at my house? what you trying to say? hmm? So do I, lol. But I'm not the guy with the finger on the button. How a country projects itself in this way is a lot like clothing. People dress to project an image of power, its a necessary element of the overall package.
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Cannae Brentano
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08-29-2006 11:41
From: Kendra Bancroft Why not? Why does this question not surprise me. If a republican does anything, its bad. But if a democrat does it, its good.
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Corvus Drake
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08-29-2006 11:42
From: Cannae Brentano So do I, lol.
But I'm not the guy with the finger on the button. How a country projects itself in this way is a lot like clothing. People dress to project an image of power, its a necessary element of the overall package. So again, why not evidence ourselves as technologically advanced, environmentally upright, etc?
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Cannae Brentano
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08-29-2006 11:42
From: Billybob Goodliffe where's Inda? I can't find it on the map. Look to the west of Typoland.
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Cannae Brentano
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08-29-2006 11:44
From: Corvus Drake So again, why not evidence ourselves as technologically advanced, environmentally upright, etc? For solar panels, maybe that argument flies. Carter tried it and he was percieved as a joke. I don't think cardigan sweaters and chipped plates are in the catagory of high tech. Then again, we are talking the Carter administration.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-29-2006 11:45
From: Cannae Brentano So do I, lol.
But I'm not the guy with the finger on the button. How a country projects itself in this way is a lot like clothing. People dress to project an image of power, its a necessary element of the overall package. I view chipped plates and such as signs of hard working no frills, blue collar type image. I think that wouldn't be a bad image for the the US.
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Corvus Drake
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08-29-2006 11:47
From: Billybob Goodliffe I view chipped plates and such as signs of hard working no frills, blue collar type image. I think that wouldn't be a bad image for the the US. Agreed. Carter's only failing was that he didn't know how to properly overcome being "laughed at" for it. Fact of the matter is, we SET the technological trends of the entire world. Who gives a fuck whatever others think, they'll be doing things technologically how we do in under a decade anyway.
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-29-2006 11:47
From: Toni Bentham Do you? Other than "Someone who disagrees with Kendra"? The DLC is centrist.
Ahh yes, Oh Great One, because I disagree with you I Must Be Ignorant, and Racist. Speak of fascism...... All a Democrat is is someone who's registered as a Democrat. Grow up. To be a Democrat, you do not have to agree with anyone or anything, clearly. Get a basic understanding of American politics. Reid is more conservative than Lieberman. Look at this votes in the 105th Congress: Opposed to the GOP's attempts to limit abortion rights through the "partial birth abortion" red herring: Lieberman In favor of limiting the rights of women: Reid
If anyone in that pair is a fascist, it's Harry Reid. The DLC is beholden to Corporations and takes it's stance as giving Corporations more rights than people. That, my dear, is the very definition of Mussolin's Fascism. You are racist if you think Jews are immune from being Fascist. Reid is not a Corporatist. hence Reid is not a Fascist. I think you have no clue what Fascism is. Hint it's not the same as Nazism. (Though Nazism was one version of Fascism) I am more concerned with obvious Fascist votes of Lieberman's like his vote with the Bancruptcy Act or his position as being against Net Neutrality.
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-29-2006 11:49
From: Cannae Brentano Why does this question not surprise me. If a republican does anything, its bad. But if a democrat does it, its good. Not the dialectic I would have chosen. If a Regressive does anything it's bad. If a Progressive does anything it's good. That would be closer to my stance.
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-29-2006 11:50
From: Billybob Goodliffe I view chipped plates and such as signs of hard working no frills, blue collar type image. I think that wouldn't be a bad image for the the US. Also --what do we want in a President? An Imperial leader? or the People's Representative to the world.
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-29-2006 11:52
From: Cannae Brentano So do I, lol.
But I'm not the guy with the finger on the button. How a country projects itself in this way is a lot like clothing. People dress to project an image of power, its a necessary element of the overall package. I preferred the Theodore Roosevelt model. I speak softly, but I carry a big stick.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-29-2006 11:52
From: Kendra Bancroft Also --what do we want in a President?
An Imperial leader? or the People's Representative to the world. I'd rather have a real person than a pseudo-figurehead. I wouldn't mind seeing a president willing to wear blue jeans and cut the White House lawn.
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Cannae Brentano
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08-29-2006 11:53
From: Billybob Goodliffe I view chipped plates and such as signs of hard working no frills, blue collar type image. I think that wouldn't be a bad image for the the US. I guess we disagree there. You may find the Kennedy Kruschev meeting in early 1961 interesting. Kennedy was the president of the most powerful nation in the world, yet Kruschev concluded that he could bully him, which helped set the state for the Cuban missile crisis.
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Cannae Brentano
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08-29-2006 11:57
From: Kendra Bancroft I preferred the Theodore Roosevelt model.
I speak softly, but I carry a big stick. Yup, he projected power. I bet he didnt have solar panels or chipped dishes either, although I suspect there were different reasons for each.
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-29-2006 11:57
From: Cannae Brentano I guess we disagree there.
You may find the Kennedy Kruschev meeting in early 1961 interesting. Kennedy was the president of the most powerful nation in the world, yet Kruschev concluded that he could bully him, which helped set the state for the Cuban missile crisis. Kennedy threw some of the most lavish state dinners in the history of the Whitehouse. Hence the knickname "Camelot". It was Kennedy's relative youth that caused Kruschev to underestimate him.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-29-2006 11:57
From: Cannae Brentano I guess we disagree there.
You may find the Kennedy Kruschev meeting in early 1961 interesting. Kennedy was the president of the most powerful nation in the world, yet Kruschev concluded that he could bully him, which helped set the state for the Cuban missile crisis. people have always underestimated Americans, it goes back to the American Revolution. these are examples just from the top of my head Kruschev, 1961 Japanese war planners, 1941 North Korea, 1951 Saddom Hussein, 1991
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-29-2006 11:58
From: Cannae Brentano Yup, he projected power.
I bet he didnt have solar panels or chipped dishes either, although I suspect there were different reasons for each. Considering Teddy's environmentalist bent --He would have certainly had Solar Panels on the Whitehouse if they had been invented at that time.
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