Who thinks the 2004 election was "stolen" ?
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Toni Bentham
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08-28-2006 16:12
From: Kendra Bancroft a machine recount will result in the same exact count. sheeeesh. Do you not understand that it's the software at issue --not the ballot? I love how you said the exact same thing as before, but quoted my entire post in it without responding to it. Very clever. From: Kendra Bancroft Having an agenda is not a bad thing. Using distored facts and lies is. Watches Reitsuki's point sail over Kendra's head
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Cannae Brentano
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08-28-2006 16:12
From: Toni Bentham
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In short, recounts do not create a more accurate result. And you're still missing my main point - that 118,000+ votes is too large a margin to recount, no matter the election. In recounts, it's not the percentage difference that's important, but the difference in vote totals. A 500-vote difference is small and can conceivable be changed in a recount, whether it's 1% of the vote or 10%. A 118,000 vote difference probably is too much for the overall outcome to be changed in a recount, whether that 118,000 votes is 10%, 5%, or 1%.
This may seem obvious, but in recounts, the odds of overturning the result decrease with the larger the separation in votes. Over 10,000 votes and the odd of changing the overall result is about the same as the odd of the best DNA sample being wrong. At 118,000 votes the election wasn't worth recounting, and Kerry knew that.
One of the articles did say the votes in question amounted to over 300,000, but there is so much inane crap to wade through that the more valid complaints get lost. If there was in fact fraud in the election, I would bet any amount of money that the fraud extends to Bushies writing bizzare websites to discredit the legitimate ones. If so, I bet they even were cited by RFK jr. too. I believe that if the democrats and left did not have such a myopic view and could see more than "everything Bush does is wrong and evil," they might have had the credibility to win the last election. But that's just my opinion and I don't have any websites to back it up either, so don't ask.
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-28-2006 16:13
From: Toni Bentham I love how you said the exact same thing as before, but quoted my entire post in it without responding to it. Very clever. wasn't it just?
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Cannae Brentano
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08-28-2006 16:14
From: Toni Bentham I love how you said the exact same thing as before, but quoted my entire post in it without responding to it. Very clever.
Watches Reitsuki's point sail over Kendra's head Same thing happened to my post too. I'm still waiting for a response as to whether its RFK's article or the sources that was the proof. I suspect it will be a long, long time before there is a response. Maybe that's why the forums are being closed. Hmmmmmmm.....
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-28-2006 16:16
simply because you two did not like my answer --does not mean I didn't answer.
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Cannae Brentano
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08-28-2006 16:16
From: Kendra Bancroft Having an agenda is not a bad thing. Using distored facts and lies is. Proof please.
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-28-2006 16:16
From: Cannae Brentano Proof please. point me to a right wing site that backs up it's claims with links and sources at the same level as the sites that I have used.
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08-28-2006 16:16
From: Kendra Bancroft simply because you two did not like my answer --does not mean I didn't answer. What answer was that? Link?
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08-28-2006 16:19
From: Kendra Bancroft point me to a right wing site that backs up it's claims with links and sources at the same level as the sites that I have used. How does that prove the claim that fox makes up facts?
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-28-2006 16:19
From: Cannae Brentano What answer was that? Link? are you that bereft of energy that you can't scroll up?
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08-28-2006 16:21
From: Kendra Bancroft are you that bereft of energy that you can't scroll up? Thanks for making my point. 
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Toni Bentham
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Save the Apostrophe!
08-28-2006 16:25
Kendra, honestly, I realize this is the Internet, but must we totally butcher the Noble Apostrophe? It's = It is So therefore, "back up it's claims" means "back up it is claims". Now I think we can all agree that doesn't make any sense. After a possessive it there is no apostrophe, just like there isn't for "hers". As in, the bike was hers. Now, if you wrote that the bike belonged to a specific person, or to people in general, you would need a posessive apostrophe: The bike was Mike's, or The bike was [nobody's/anybody's/someone's]. BTW, I'm only mentioning this because you ragged on someone's spelling earlier. 
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08-28-2006 16:27
From: Toni Bentham Kendra, honestly, I realize this is the Internet, but must we totally butcher the Noble Apostrophe? It's = It is So therefore, "back up it's claims" means "back up it is claims". Now I think we can all agree that doesn't make any sense. After a possessive it there is no apostrophe, just like there isn't for "hers". As in, the bike was hers. Now, if you wrote that the bike belonged to a specific person, or to people in general, you would need a posessive apostrophe: The bike was Mike's, or The bike was [nobody's/anybody's/someone's]. BTW, I'm only mentioning this because you ragged on someone's spelling earlier.  ragging on my spelling isn't hard, I have never claimed to be a decent speller (?) its something I struggle with.
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08-28-2006 16:28
Oh, gee. The ADL condemns her. That's like a compliment. Anyway, what does this have to do with the points I made about what she's contributed (almost alone)? Nobody addresses that ... just sidesteps to picking at what faults they can get at. Meh. I give up. We deserve what we're getting, and we deserve what we're going to get all too soon. I'm beginning to welcome it.
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08-28-2006 16:29
From: Kendra Bancroft are you that bereft of energy that you can't scroll up? Here we go, a summary. If I missed your answer, I'll be happy to add it. /112/60/133018/4.html#post1255051
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Toni Bentham
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08-28-2006 16:32
From: Billybob Goodliffe ragging on my spelling isn't hard, I have never claimed to be a decent speller (?) its something I struggle with. True. But I was trying to make a point about glass houses, rocks, etc. Now If I were to rag on your spelling, that'd be totally OK.  EDIT: Hey, I think this was my 500th post! Yay! 
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08-28-2006 16:32
From: Alex Fitzsimmons Oh, gee. The ADL condemns her. That's like a compliment. Anyway, what does this have to do with the points I made about what she's contributed (almost alone)? Nobody addresses that ... just sidesteps to picking at what faults they can get at. Meh. I give up. We deserve what we're getting, and we deserve what we're going to get all too soon. I'm beginning to welcome it. I'm just saying, if you want to celebrate her despite her faults and the fact that her own district couldn't stomach her complaining anymore, go right ahead. Yeah we have all seen what she has contributed  there is a reason she lost in the primary.
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08-28-2006 16:37
From: Toni Bentham True. But I was trying to make a point about glass houses, rocks, etc. Now If I were to rag on your spelling, that'd be totally OK.  EDIT: Hey, I think this was my 500th post! Yay!  lol hell I make fun of my own spelling!
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08-28-2006 16:42
From: Billybob Goodliffe I'm just saying, if you want to celebrate her despite her faults and the fact that her own district couldn't stomach her complaining anymore, go right ahead. Yeah we have all seen what she has contributed  there is a reason she lost in the primary. Of course, there's nothing to complain about. Ingsoc is doubleplus good, after all. I welcome the new completely spineless and/or hopelessly corrupt Congress and am personally glad that its members will no longer presume to question our Emporer about anything truly serious. Yippie.
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08-28-2006 16:44
From: Alex Fitzsimmons Of course, there's nothing to complain about. Ingsoc is doubleplus good, after all. I welcome the new completely spineless and/or hopelessly corrupt Congress and am personally glad that its members will no longer presume to question our Emporer about anything truly serious. Yippie. I don't mind strong willed congressmen, however when one is a racist and a moron like McKinney they shouldn't be let anywhere near Washington.
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08-28-2006 16:49
From: Billybob Goodliffe I don't mind strong willed congressmen, however when one is a racist and a moron like McKinney they shouldn't be let anywhere near Washington. For a moron, she sure seemed to be aware rather quickly of the 9/11 deceptions and conflicts of interest, not to mention gutsy enough to speak out. But I guess safer is better. We wouldn't want any boats rocked.
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08-28-2006 16:52
From: Alex Fitzsimmons For a moron, she sure seemed to be aware rather quickly of the 9/11 deceptions and conflicts of interest, not to mention gutsy enough to speak out. But I guess safer is better. We wouldn't want any boats rocked. Sigh.... I suppose if someone believes in 9/11 conspiracy theories.....
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-28-2006 16:55
From: Alex Fitzsimmons For a moron, she sure seemed to be aware rather quickly of the 9/11 deceptions and conflicts of interest, not to mention gutsy enough to speak out. But I guess safer is better. We wouldn't want any boats rocked. one incident does not atone for a career of moronic statements
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-28-2006 17:21
From: Toni Bentham Kendra, honestly, I realize this is the Internet, but must we totally butcher the Noble Apostrophe? It's = It is So therefore, "back up it's claims" means "back up it is claims". Now I think we can all agree that doesn't make any sense. After a possessive it there is no apostrophe, just like there isn't for "hers". As in, the bike was hers. Now, if you wrote that the bike belonged to a specific person, or to people in general, you would need a posessive apostrophe: The bike was Mike's, or The bike was [nobody's/anybody's/someone's]. BTW, I'm only mentioning this because you ragged on someone's spelling earlier.  how precious. anything else?
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-28-2006 17:23
From: Cannae Brentano Sigh....
I suppose if someone believes in 9/11 conspiracy theories..... Do you believe the Government's conspiracy theory?
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