Who thinks the 2004 election was "stolen" ?

We already know that according to you the government (when held by a conservative administration) is the root of all evil and conspiracies regarding the administration are by default true.

Anything new?

Doubt it.

Briana Dawson

So what are we actually arguing now?

That the elections were rigged? What difference does it make, the people don't decide who becomes president, the electoral college decides that, which in my opinion should be abolished.

That the government is corrupt? Well that's been the case for at least 30 years, what else is new? Oh, but it's more corrupt now than ever--okay, so what else is new? Corruption left unchecked gets worse and worse--I don't think it'd matter who was president, the corruption would be worse.

Pissing contests? Bogusly joyous.

One person is funnier than the other? That's a matter of perspective.

So, again, what are we actually arguing right now, or are we typing just to see if our keyboards still work?

Oh, you are one of those.

Here, a gift. I come in peace.

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LOL!!!

One silly ole itty bitty question for the libs... if the Diabold machines are so easily rigged... and it is untraceable... how the hell did Clinton win the presidency? That sucking sound you hear is your argument being flushed to where it belongs.

Be smarter than this crap. You lost, quit crying about it.

You didn't answer my question. The theory that the US Government has passed out as fact is no more believable than any other theory I've heard.

What I'd like is an actual investigation and some truth.

Wouldn't you?

You do know Diebold machines starting being placed in 2002 right?
Chambliss versus Cleland

There has been from many independant sources.

http://911myths.com/

But your mind is made up no matter what facts you are presented with. Its pretty clear that you'll always believe of a vast conspiracy. Some people are like that.

So here, have another gift ...

http://www.loosechange911.com

But don't forget to look at this one too, which summarizes best why the conspiracy claims are dumb.

1. The man in the picture above is Dylan Avery. To be more precise, the fact that Dylan, his friends, and family are alive, is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit. He, along with a couple of his friends, created a 9/11 conspiracy video claiming that the US government and the military caused 9/11. Take a closer look at the last part of that last sentence: he's claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it.

2. Since Dylan's arguing that the government has no problem killing 3,000 innocent people, this raises the question: if his documentary is true, and we've established that the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill Avery and his friends as well? What's a few more lives to them to ensure the success of this conspiracy?

Whatever reason it may be that the government supposedly orchestrated this conspiracy, it must have been worth it to them to cause so much suffering and loss of life. So if there's any truth to this, then you can bet your ass that the government wouldn't let a couple of pecker-neck chumps with a couple of Macs and too much time on their hands jeopardise their entire operation by letting this stupid video float around on the Internet. I can picture you morons emailing me now: "BUT MADOX, MAYBE DYLAN POSTED IT ON THE INTERNET BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT HAD A CHANCE TO REMOVE IT LOL." Yeah, too bad this rebuttal is inconsistent with the premise of Dylan's shit-festival of a movie: that the WTC was brought down "in a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now we're expected to believe that the same government that was able to commit the largest terrorist operation in history--with military precision no less--is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down a little website set up by some college losers within days, if not minutes of its creation?

I win. There is no conspiracy. Eat my shit, losers.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons


P.S.
Bush won both elections. Deal with it.

None of the above proves the truth of the Government's claims.

Bush arguably lost both elections. He definately only won one of them.

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1115-02.htm

How precious. Anything else?

Yet again, your amazing arrogance overwhelms everything else. How shocking.

My main point was this: anyone who doesn't understand how to use an apostrophe correctly can't be expected to differentiate between reality and partisan propaganda. Therfore, any "evidence" you present is clearly as ill-conceived as your grammatical structures. Obviously you didn't reply to any of the intelligent points I made earlier because you didn't understand them. I'm sorry, I'll try to keep that in mind in the future.

diddums get her feelings hurt?

Do you ever actually respond to what people write, or just quote and post non-sequiturs? (Wait, sorry, I shouldn't have used Latin, I forgot. How about, unrelated phrases?)

Wow, and now you're using baby talk. You get more like GWB all the time, Kendra.

In a dark basement Al Gore weaps.

If I had known that I wouldn't have made myself look stupid by making my point... lafs.

Anyway, another question. If they are rigged so easily... why didn't the Democrats rig them and elect Kerry?

When you write something that isn't drivel I'll respond in kind.

That's easy. The Democratic Party is more interested in serving the will of the People and not just winning by any means necessary.

not really, they both suck

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Thou shalt not discount someone's argumental substance because of a mis-placed apostrophe, lest thou art a legal professional and the original text be ambiguous in intent.

(* I think I will post a post that is misspelled, just to catch all the spelling fascists upside the parietal lobes.)

They do both suck. True.

The difference is, however, that the Democratic Party favors a strong Middle Class, and the Republican Party favors rule by a wealthy elite.

This make it easier for the Republicans to fuck the common man.

It's two different agendas. Populist Pandering Democrats versus Corporatist Fascist Republicans. Admittedly Clinton's DLC tipped the Democratics away from their usual populist agenda towards corporatism.

Now if someone could tell the Democratic Party the bit about 'serving the will of the people'...

I don't want a goddamn party that attempts to serve the will of the people. i want a party staffed and running competent, compassionate non-professional-politicians who have demonstrated competence and a respect for the Rule of Law.

What I get is Al Gore, who on one hand did contribute to the development of the Internet in a huge way and on the other hand can't extricate himself from spinmeisters who ditto-yak about how he 'claimed to have invented the internet', who on one hand sees the legitimate problem of global warming and has done a lot about it but on the other hand has LIEBERMAN as a running mate, who in the same year led a push to remove stupid WWII-era export restrictions on encryption technologies and ALSO had a PR field day by visiting Fred Phelps; Who is educated and competent and understands the rule of law but who backed his wife's censorship playday. And he's so far the BEST the Democrats have ever had to offer.

And on the other side of the ring, there's the Republican Party which has been hijacked by Southern Baptist Dominionists for fifty years, and ringside waiting for the tag-in is Ralph Nader, competent consumer advocate yet clueless about the political process.

WHY?

I want my vote to be one of No Confidence - I want to cancel out the vote of any arbitrary person who actually votes for the lesser of two/three/several evils.

REAL CANDIDATE, PLSKTHX

thats exactly why I need to be elected Supreme Leader of the World!

I blame Lieberman and Clinton for the existence of the DLC --which is the fascist wing of the Democratic Party.

Thankfully, Howard Dean and Harry Reid are pulling the Democrats out of it. Won't be easy --the Corporate media is still trying to throw Howard Dean onto the railroad tracks.

The only encouragement I have lately is the the show of support for Ned Lamont.

Fixed!

You couldn't have possibly written that without laughing.