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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-30-2006 09:59
From: Kendra Bancroft
My Father was a Naval Officer (Oral Surgeon) during the Korean War, he used to laugh his ass off while watching the show. Thought it was the most ridiculous thing on television (though he liked the movie)

my father, and now myself, did the same thing with Gomer Pyle

oh and it seems the little kiddies have finally given up trying to argue with age and experience
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08-30-2006 10:02
From: Kendra Bancroft
oh yeah? Then how come there were no black dudes on M*A*S*H?
Huh? Can you answer that, huh?




actually in the movie MASH there were Black people - the ringers for each team in the foot ball game are black I beleive.

Thats probably still discriminatory - But I think the ringer for the 4077 was a doctor, which would be better than assuming he was just a football player.

Of course the Movie MASH while still seriously strange and slap stick was a bit different than the TV series.
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08-30-2006 10:04
From: Colette Meiji
actually in the movie MASH there were Black people - the ringers for each team in the foot ball game are black I beleive.

Thats probably still discriminatory - But I think the ringer for the 4077 was a doctor, which would be better than assuming he was just a football player.

Of course the Movie MASH while still seriously strange and slap stick was a bit different than the TV series.



Oh I know --I should have specified the TV show (which sometimes had black people lying on the hospital beds and groaning --but rarely had any lines)

I was really just trying to be amusing.
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08-30-2006 10:10
From: Kendra Bancroft
Why? You're the one with the Republican mindset. Just follow your boy Lieberman over there.
K?
Or doesn't your Party have a big enough tent for us "extremists".


Care to tell me what this magical "Republican mindset" is, and how you know I have it, since I haven't enunciated my positions on any issues yet? Is not thinking Lieberman a fascist a Republican mindset? Or are you just reading my mind again? In that case, can you tell me what I'm going to have for lunch in a bit? Because that's what I'm doing now instead of dealing with your childish idiocy.

Wait, I thought you said Lieberman was a fascist Democrat? Now suddenly he's a Republican! Make up your mind. He'll be a Green next. Or a Libertarian. Just not a Kendra-ite.

My party could include you. But you're the one who left it. You're not a Democrat. You don't know what a Democratic mindset is. Your opinion on who is or isn't a Democrat is irrelevant. I think I've figured it out, though - your thoughts on the Democratic party are stuck in the era when you left it.

From: Billybob Goodliffe
I guess I really screw up your theory then don't I?

It does? What theory would that be? Are you Kendra? How does your being unenrolled have any relevance to the GOP being full of extremists, and the Democratic Party not being so infected? Enlighten me, please.
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08-30-2006 10:14
From: Toni Bentham
It does? What theory would that be? Are you Kendra? How does your being unenrolled have any relevance to the GOP being full of extremists, and the Democratic Party not being so infected? Enlighten me, please.

this theory
From: Toni Bentham
Extremists like you will never take over the Democratic Party, Kendra. You want a party dominated by extremists and small-minded people, try the GOP.

Your opinion on what my party is and isn't, and should and shouldn't be, is irrelevant. You're not a Democrat.


and since I agree with her, and am a very centrist person ideologically, I'd say there is a fair chance that this belief may "take over" the democratic party
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08-30-2006 10:15
From: Toni Bentham
Care to tell me what this magical "Republican mindset" is, and how you know I have it, since I haven't enunciated my positions on any issues yet? Is not thinking Lieberman a fascist a Republican mindset? Or are you just reading my mind again? In that case, can you tell me what I'm going to have for lunch in a bit? Because that's what I'm doing now instead of dealing with your childish idiocy.

Wait, I thought you said Lieberman was a fascist Democrat? Now suddenly he's a Republican! Make up your mind. He'll be a Green next. Or a Libertarian. Just not a Kendra-ite.

My party could include you. But you're the one who left it. You're not a Democrat. You don't know what a Democratic mindset is. Your opinion on who is or isn't a Democrat is irrelevant. I think I've figured it out, though - your thoughts on the Democratic party are stuck in the era when you left it.


It does? What theory would that be? Are you Kendra? How does your being unenrolled have any relevance to the GOP being full of extremists, and the Democratic Party not being so infected? Enlighten me, please.



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08-30-2006 10:16
From: Kendra Bancroft
::::shrug::: He is a Fascist. That's my OPINION.

You're a fascist. That's my opinion.

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He is not a Democrat. He is an Independent. That is Lieberman's DECLARED political Party in the upcoming Senate Race. He has abandonded the Democratic Party by choosing to even run for office after losing the primaries.

(1) Independent is not a political party
(2) Lieberman is not running as an independent.
Again you fail to show even a basic understanding of American politics. Look these things up and try to gain some comprehension about something.

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Also --Though I don't consider myself a Democrat, I am a REGISTERED member of the Democratic Party, because let's face it --at the moment there are two choices.

Ahh, you're waffling. See, you're not really dedicated to anything but winning, are you?

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I used to be a loyal Democratic Party member back when Carter was President, I have distanced myself from the party because of the Fascist interests of the DLC.

As you yourself have said, now you're not loyal, just like Lieberman! Wow, amazing. Therefore your opinions are irrelevant to me, not the least because they're radically uninformed.

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Once the Democratic Party returns to being a party of the people and not the corporate wealthy elite I'll return to the fold.

You do that, dear. It's adorable.

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And those days are just around the corner, Toni ---join up or get out of the way.

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08-30-2006 10:17
From: Billybob Goodliffe
this theory


and since I agree with her, and am a very centrist person ideologically, I'd say there is a fair chance that this belief may "take over" the democratic party



What Toni can't handle is that SHE is the extremist.
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08-30-2006 10:20
From: Kendra Bancroft
What Toni can't handle is that SHE is the extremist.

Again with the magical mindreading skills! So because I disagree with you I'm an extremist? Amazing.

From: Billybob Goodliffe
and since I agree with her, and am a very centrist person ideologically, I'd say there is a fair chance that this belief may "take over" the democratic party

I never talked about any belief taking over the Democratic Party. And I thought you said you were unenrolled?
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08-30-2006 10:21
From: Kendra Bancroft
My Father was a Naval Officer (Oral Surgeon) during the Korean War, he used to laugh his ass off while watching the show. Thought it was the most ridiculous thing on television (though he liked the movie)


A friend of mine told me that the movie that came closest to depeicting his experience in Vietnam was MASH. He liked it enough that he signed up for a second tour of duty. Granted, he was in Army Intellegence and spent most of his time hanging out on base or listening to enemy communications from an airplane. Of course he was also an amazing story-teller, so I never knew how much of what he told me to really believe.
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08-30-2006 10:23
From: Toni Bentham
You're a fascist. That's my opinion.


(1) Independent is not a political party
(2) Lieberman is not running as an independent.
Again you fail to show even a basic understanding of American politics. Look these things up and try to gain some comprehension about something.


1)Independant IS a political party as a matter of fact.
2) Lieberman IS running as an Independent


From: Toni Bentham
Ahh, you're waffling. See, you're not really dedicated to anything but winning, are you?


That's not waffling. That's being practical.

From: Toni Bentham
As you yourself have said, now you're not loyal, just like Lieberman! Wow, amazing. Therefore your opinions are irrelevant to me, not the least because they're radically uninformed.


hahahaha. I'm far more informed then you, Toni. I actually think you're just a kneejerk liberal.

Try reading sometime. You are wasting your brain.
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08-30-2006 10:24
From: Toni Bentham
(1) Independent is not a political party
(2) Lieberman is not running as an independent.
Again you fail to show even a basic understanding of American politics. Look these things up and try to gain some comprehension about something.

sorry but you lost all credibility with these statements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_for_Lieberman
and then
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Joe_Lieberman
especially this line
From: SourceWatch
Following his loss, Lieberman declared his intentions to run for the Senate as an independent candidate.
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08-30-2006 10:30
From: Toni Bentham
Again with the magical mindreading skills! So because I disagree with you I'm an extremist? Amazing.


I never talked about any belief taking over the Democratic Party. And I thought you said you were unenrolled?

I am unenrolled in the major parties, I am a Libertarian by choice, however since GA doesn't have a registration policy I can vote in either primary.
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08-30-2006 10:33
From: Toni Bentham
Again with the magical mindreading skills! So because I disagree with you I'm an extremist? Amazing.


I never talked about any belief taking over the Democratic Party. And I thought you said you were unenrolled?



You are an extremist if you are a Democrat supporting Lieberman.
Sorry, babycakes --but he lost the Democratic primary in Connecticut.

The fact that you disagree with your Party's Leadership makes you the extremist.
Not me.
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08-30-2006 10:38
From: Kendra Bancroft
You are an extremist if you are a Democrat supporting Lieberman.
Sorry, babycakes --but he lost the Democratic primary in Connecticut.

The fact that you disagree with your Party's Leadership makes you the extremist.
Not me.


Uh, actually, no it doesn't, Kendra. That has basicly nothing to do with it.

/votes for Stupak
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08-30-2006 10:41
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1)Independant IS a political party as a matter of fact.
2) Lieberman IS running as an Independent

Independent is not a political party. Independent = unenrolled, which means not being in any political party. There is an Indepenent Party in a number of states, but that is not what is traditionally considered to be independent.
Lieberman is running as a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman Party, and is still a member of a registered party. Boston Globe

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That's not waffling. That's being practical.

Potatoes, Potahtoes. You're a hypocrite. If you're a socialist, register with the socialist party. If you're a Democrat, be proud to be a Democrat.

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hahahaha. I'm far more informed then you, Toni. I actually think you're just a kneejerk liberal.

No, you're not. You've consistently shown yourself to know next to nothing about American politics and governance. Only a moron would think Independent was a political party.
And I think you're a disloyal Democrat and an intolerant person who cares more about their ideology than the party as a whole. Lieberman's a better Democrat than you are.

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Try reading sometime. You are wasting your brain.

That's so adorable! What should I read? The World According To Kendra? That'd be short. "I'm right. You're wrong. Anybody who disagrees with me is a waste of oxygen."

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sorry but you lost all credibility with these statements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_for_Lieberman
and then
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Joe_Lieberman
especially this line

Those entries prove what I wrote, dear. He may have declared anything, but he's not running as an independent. He's running as a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman party.

Once again, he is not running as an idependent. He is running as a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman party. If you're running under the banner of a political party, you are not running as an independent/unenrolled candidate. Neither you nor Kendra seem to grasp even the basics of party politics or American campaigning.
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08-30-2006 10:45
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You are an extremist if you are a Democrat supporting Lieberman.
Sorry, babycakes --but he lost the Democratic primary in Connecticut.
The fact that you disagree with your Party's Leadership makes you the extremist.
Not me.

You stated yourself to be a socialist, not me. You clearly disagree with the leadership of the party of which you are a registered member more than I do. Plus, it's not the party position that Joe Lieberman is a fascist. So clearly you're the extremist.

So moderate Republicans are extremists, then? You're so cute, Kendra. I mean honestly, do you think about anything before you write it?
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08-30-2006 10:45
From: Toni Bentham
Independent is not a political party. Independent = unenrolled, which means not being in any political party. There is an Indepenent Party in a number of states, but that is not what is traditionally considered to be independent.
Lieberman is running as a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman Party, and is still a registered party. Boston Globe


Potatoes, Potahtoes. You're a hypocrite. If you're a socialist, register with the socialist party. If you're a Democrat, be proud to be a Democrat.


No, you're not. You've consistently shown yourself to know next to nothing about American politics and governance. Only a moron would think Independent was a political party.
And I think you're a disloyal Democrat and an intolerant person who cares more about some their ideology than the party as a whole. Lieberman's a better Democrat than you are.


That's so adorable! What should I read? The World According To Kendra? That'd be short. "I'm right. You're wrong. Anybody who disagrees with me is a waste of oxygen."


Those entries prove what I wrote, dear. He may have declared anything, but he's not running as an independent. He's running as a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman party.

He is not running as an idependent. He is running as a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman party. If you're running under the banner of a political party, you are not running as an independent/unenrolled candidate. Neither you nor Kendra seem to grasp even the basics of party politics or American campaigning.

His party is nothing more than a single candidate organization that is trying to get an Independent elected. By your definition there is no such thing as a true independent since you have to have a large enough following to get on the ballot. That implies an organization, which an Independent by your definition can't have. Now stop making shit up to try and back a fruitless point.
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08-30-2006 10:46
From: Toni Bentham
Independent is not a political party. Independent = unenrolled, which means not being in any political party. There is an Indepenent Party in a number of states, but that is not what is traditionally considered to be independent.
Lieberman is running as a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman Party, and is still a registered party. Boston Globe


Potatoes, Potahtoes. You're a hypocrite. If you're a socialist, register with the socialist party. If you're a Democrat, be proud to be a Democrat.


No, you're not. You've consistently shown yourself to know next to nothing about American politics and governance. Only a moron would think Independent was a political party.
And I think you're a disloyal Democrat and an intolerant person who cares more about their ideology than the party as a whole. Lieberman's a better Democrat than you are.


That's so adorable! What should I read? The World According To Kendra? That'd be short. "I'm right. You're wrong. Anybody who disagrees with me is a waste of oxygen."


Those entries prove what I wrote, dear. He may have declared anything, but he's not running as an independent. He's running as a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman party.

He is not running as an idependent. He is running as a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman party. If you're running under the banner of a political party, you are not running as an independent/unenrolled candidate. Neither you nor Kendra seem to grasp even the basics of party politics or American campaigning.




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::::yawn::::

HEY!! THATS MY RESPONSE according to Ulrika/Uma :mad:
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08-30-2006 10:48
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You stated yourself to be a socialist, not me. You clearly disagree with the leadership of the party of which you are a registered member more than I do. Plus, it's not the party position that Joe Lieberman is a fascist. So clearly you're the extremist.

So moderate Republicans are extremists, then? You're so cute, Kendra. I mean honestly, do you think about anything before you write it?

can you define rational thought?
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You stated yourself to be a socialist, not me. You clearly disagree with the leadership of the party of which you are a registered member more than I do. Plus, it's not the party position that Joe Lieberman is a fascist. So clearly you're the extremist.

So moderate Republicans are extremists, then? You're so cute, Kendra. I mean honestly, do you think about anything before you write it?


Nope. Neocons like BUSH are extremists. He is out of step with the American People and his administration is out of step with traditional Conservative values.

Similarly, Lieberman is an extremist who is out of step with his own Party's leadership and the democratic constituency of his home state.

I won't discuss Fascism with you until you get better educated as to what Fascism is.
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08-30-2006 10:51
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His party is nothing more than a single candidate organization that is trying to get an Independent elected. By your definition there is no such thing as a true independent since you have to have a large enough following to get on the ballot. That implies an organization, which an Independent by your definition can't have. Now stop making shit up to try and back a fruitless point.

You totally misunderstand everything I write and exhibit your ample ignorance yet again.

You can have a large following without running as a member of a party. Independent candidates run for things all the time and get elected sometimes. Lowell Weicker ran as a true independent for governor of Connecticut, and was elected. Angus King and Jim Longley, Sr. ran as true independents for governor of Maine, and were elected. Neither of them ran as members of any registered political party at the time of those elections.

Jesse Ventura of Minnesota was not an independent. He ran as a member of the Reform Party.

It's irrelevant how large or old the party is. It's a registered political party. Since independent = not in a political party, if he's in a political party. Go look up some actual election laws instead of your simplistic misinterpretation of what I wrote and get back to me.
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08-30-2006 10:52
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::::yawn::::

It's so cute how you ignore anything you don't understand, just like Bush.
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08-30-2006 10:52
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HEY!! THATS MY RESPONSE according to Ulrika/Uma :mad:



well she's boring me! I can't help it.
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