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Roe v Wade...For Men

Kendra Bancroft
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03-13-2006 11:48
From: Kevn Klein
You mean person,

How dare you expect fair treatment? Men have had the advantage for a long time. It's only fair men get so suffer at the hand of a woman for a few centuries. /sarcasm off



That's what you think this about?

Let me spell it out for you.


MEN DON'T GET PREGNANT.
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Kevn Klein
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03-13-2006 11:49
From: Kendra Bancroft
That's what you think this about?

Let me spell it out for you.


MEN DON'T GET PREGNANT.

Women don't become fathers.
Neehai Zapata
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03-13-2006 11:51
From: someone
"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent."
quoted in Professing Feminism:
Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies - Catherine MacKinnon

In many Patriarchal societies this is true.

It is not at all uncommon for women to be arranged into marriages and forced to copulate and have children. These women do not choose their partners, nor are they equal partners in the relationship.

Now I do not know who Catherine MacKinnon is, but in some contexts her statement is very true. It is not at all uncommon for women to be forced to have sex at the will of their husbands or forced to have more children then they can handle.
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-13-2006 11:52
From: Kevn Klein
Women don't become fathers.



I could. But that's another thread :D
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Siobhan OFlynn
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03-13-2006 11:52
From: Kevn Klein
Women don't become fathers.


I was going to behave myself and stay out of this discussion today, but this is, quite possibly, THE most assinine statement of the day, possibly even the week. Congratulations, Kevn.
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Jonas Pierterson
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03-13-2006 11:59
Kendra, thats not a problem for the law to decide. The law cannot change nature. Men forced to give child support should equal women not allowed optional abortions.

I am not responsible for the role nature provided and you do(should) not get special priveledges because of it.

again I post:

From: someone
That equality is kinda what I'm talking about Sally..

If a man is to be held responsible with no chance of getting out of child support, why (excluding medical or rape etc) should a woman be able to get out of being a mother?

If the man can't get out of it the woman shouldn't either.

Men, get snipped or kepe it tucked, women keep em closed or get tied.

EQUALITY.


Sally, I don't really care what type of surgery it is. You don't want kids? Keep your legs closed. Equality isn't pretty. Get rid of the womens helping steps in the military too. When the training calls for 30 days in the wilderness, no, th e women cannot go back to the base and shower every 2 days. You signed up for the military. Not for the military with carebears. Selective service for women. At the age of 18 men have to sign up..make women too. Its all EQUAL.
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-13-2006 12:04
From: Jonas Pierterson
Kendra, thats not a problem for the law to decide.


agreed...so why are you getting the law involved?


From: Jonas Pierterson
Men forced to give child support should equal women not allowed optional abortions.


False choice. Men forced to give child support = Women forced to give child support.
Women not being allowed abortions = Men not being allowed abortions.

From: Jonas Pierterson
I am not responsible for the role nature provided and you do(should) not get special priveledges because of it..


Calling it a special priveledge doesn't make it one.
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Joy Honey
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03-13-2006 12:09
From: Taco Rubio
you gals and your silly objective facts :rolleyes:

i'm giving you all a spankin'


Oh darn, am I too late for my spankin'? *giggles*
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Jonas Pierterson
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03-13-2006 12:10
ok Kendra..youre right on one thing..the child support force issue

but heres soemthign to consider..

women can choose to have an abortion..but what of the father's say?

Maybe a child shouldn't aborted without both parents consent? If the father wants a child but the mother doesn't then he can pay an amount of money for her health care, including hospitalization for the pregnancy and birth, and from that point on the father has sole custody and the mother pays child support. After all if the father didn't want it but the mother kept it, you better believe he'd have to pay.
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Kevn Klein
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03-13-2006 12:12
From: Joy Honey
Oh darn, am I too late for my spankin'? *giggles*

No *chases Joy down and gives her a really hard spankin'* There ya go, red bottom girl.
Kendra Bancroft
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03-13-2006 12:12
From: Joy Honey
Oh darn, am I too late for my spankin'? *giggles*


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03-13-2006 12:14


WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!
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Sally Rosebud
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03-13-2006 13:15
From: Jonas Pierterson



Sally, I don't really care what type of surgery it is. You don't want kids? Keep your legs closed. Equality isn't pretty. Get rid of the womens helping steps in the military too. When the training calls for 30 days in the wilderness, no, th e women cannot go back to the base and shower every 2 days. You signed up for the military. Not for the military with carebears. Selective service for women. At the age of 18 men have to sign up..make women too. Its all EQUAL.


We aren't talking about the military here, I'm fine with women being treated equally there, gosh darn it don't you feel the warm fuzzies there.

You know what, you don't want kids, well I won't say what I truly would like to at this point, keep it in your pants. Now, you're making it sound like we are all going around being run by hormones, instead of consenting adults. Like I said before, if you don't want to pay child support after fathering a child, go to court. Now please don't respond with any more stupid theories of yours, please, for both our sakes.
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Jonas Pierterson
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03-13-2006 13:19
Woman doesn't want kids.. keep your legs closed.

Simple enough.
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Sally Rosebud
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03-13-2006 13:21
what a pig
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-13-2006 13:22
From: Jonas Pierterson
Woman doesn't want kids.. keep your legs closed.

Simple enough.



Just so I can be clear on this now --we talkin' on the way in? Or the way out?
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Jonas Pierterson
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03-13-2006 13:23
What a pig? You tell me to keep it in my pants if I don't want kids.

ITS THE SAME DAMN THING.

edit: maybe I should call you a pig?
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03-13-2006 13:23
I like this thread because it makes it very easy for me look desiriable and enlightened. :cool:
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Jonas Pierterson
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03-13-2006 13:24
LOL Kendra, I hope that one was a joke. Both might work though..though one would be called murder.
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-13-2006 13:25
From: Taco Rubio
I like this thread because it makes it very easy for me look desiriable and enlightened. :cool:



TAXA
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Sally Rosebud
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03-13-2006 13:31
From: Jonas Pierterson
What a pig? You tell me to keep it in my pants if I don't want kids.

ITS THE SAME DAMN THING.

edit: maybe I should call you a pig?


Yup, I tell you that cause you tell me to keep my legs closed, see how that works? There are a lot of grey areas to this topic. Why do so many try to make it black and white? Abortion should be safe, legal (and not only in cases of rape), and rare.
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03-13-2006 13:34
From: Kendra Bancroft

TAXA


if you weren't so hot i'd report you and get you thrown to the teen grid :P
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Jonas Pierterson
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03-13-2006 13:35
The father should have to be consulted on abortions. He should have to agree as well. if theres a disagreement, take it to court. Its -his- child too.

Edit: Or does his opinion only matter -after- the child is born?
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Sally Rosebud
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03-13-2006 13:45
From: Jonas Pierterson
The father should have to be consulted on abortions. He should have to agree as well. if theres a disagreement, take it to court. Its -his- child too.

Edit: Or does his opinion only matter -after- the child is born?


No. The father SHOULD be consulted on abortions. It should NOT be mandatory. There does not need to be a law for this.
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Jonas Pierterson
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03-13-2006 13:49
If it should be MANDATORY to consult the father. After all 'I said to get an abortion' doesn't fly in child support payments in court.

Sorry hon, you can't win on that one if you want equality.
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