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Two US soldiers tortured to death, where is the outrage from the left now????

Jonas Pierterson
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07-25-2006 15:37
From: Lorelei Patel
Working day-in and day-out in a newsroom, where I'm told to keep track of anyone non-white that I talk to as part of our "mainstreaming" project -- a phrase that makes my skin crawl, as "mainstreaming" is a word used in education to describe putting "special" kids in with the rest. That, and hearing a supervisor say that the next person we hire needs to be a minority.


Find evidence..record, etc, and blow the whistle. Racism, plain and simple. It doesn't matter what use in the phrase 'we need to hire a minority/white/male/female/black/hispanic/homosexual/etc,' its still descrimination.
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-25-2006 15:39
From: Lorelei Patel
Working day-in and day-out in a newsroom, where I'm told to keep track of anyone non-white that I talk to as part of our "mainstreaming" project -- a phrase that makes my skin crawl, as "mainstreaming" is a word used in education to describe putting "special" kids in with the rest. That, and hearing a supervisor say that the next person we hire needs to be a minority.



and that's your proof that all of media is complicit? Hahahahahahahahhahahahaha.

okay.
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Lorelei Patel
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07-25-2006 15:42
From: Jonas Pierterson
Find evidence..record, etc, and blow the whistle. Racism, plain and simple. It doesn't matter what use in the phrase 'we need to hire a minority/white/male/female/black/hispanic/homosexual/etc,' its still descrimination.


Heck yeah it is.

My husband once applied for a state government job and aced the civil service exam. He was told, to his face, that he was "too white and too male" to get a job. And that defeats racism how?

I wish he had done something about that, but it happened years before I met him and there's nothing to be done about it now.

As for my company, I admit. I need the paycheck and the benefits until I finish grad school and start doing something else.

On a related note:

From: someone
PONTIAC, Mich. — The city will end a practice designed to hire and promote more women and minorities in its fire department under an agreement with the Justice Department.

Under the agreement, the city will offer jobs, promotions, back pay or seniority to four white men deemed to have been unlawfully denied or delayed opportunities as a result of the policy. The agreement still needs final approval.

The agreement comes amid a debate in Michigan over a November anti-affirmative action ballot proposal.

The proposed amendment to the state constitution would ban government and university admissions programs from giving preferential treatment to groups or individuals based on their race, gender, color, ethnicity or national origin.

Under Pontiac's policy, one out of every three of the department's hires and promotions was to go to a woman or a minority.

The Justice Department began an investigation after Pontiac firefighter Arthur Frantz, who is white, filed a federal lawsuit in 2004, claiming he was passed up for promotion in favor of a Hispanic man.

Frantz also sued Pontiac in U.S. District Court in Detroit in 2002. The case is to go to trial in September.

Pontiac is about 20 miles northwest of Detroit.
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Lorelei Patel
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07-25-2006 15:42
From: Kendra Bancroft
and that's your proof that all of media is complicit? Hahahahahahahahhahahahaha.

okay.


It's a corporate policy, and I work for one of the big'uns.
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07-25-2006 15:43
yall quit arguing and come to my party tonight :D
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-25-2006 15:45
From: Lorelei Patel
It's a corporate policy, and I work for one of the big'uns.



uh huh.
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Lorelei Patel
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07-25-2006 15:46
From: Kendra Bancroft
uh huh.



*shrug*

Nothing I could say would convince you, you're not the type to let facts get in the way of a good argument. But I know who signs my paycheck.
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07-25-2006 15:47
From: Lorelei Patel
*shrug*

Nothing I could say would convince you, you're not the type to let facts get in the way of a good argument. But I know who signs my paycheck.



Guaranteed it's not the ACLU.
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Lorelei Patel
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07-25-2006 15:51
From: Kendra Bancroft
Guaranteed it's not the ACLU.


Nope, they wouldn't be one of the country's larger media organizations, nope :rolleyes:
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-25-2006 15:53
From: Lorelei Patel
Nope, they wouldn't be one of the country's larger media organizations, nope :rolleyes:



That's my point. Der.

Your opinion that "The Media" is somehow a liberal bastion is hopelessly naive.
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Lorelei Patel
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07-25-2006 16:00
From: Kendra Bancroft
That's my point. Der.

Your opinion that "The Media" is somehow a liberal bastion is hopelessly naive.


As naive as claiming to know more about a business than someone who spends 40+ hours a week in it, I wonder?

Furthermore, I never said "liberal bastion." That's your doing. Some are liberal, some are not. But you can damn sure bet that policy I referred to was put in place to make liberals like you happy. So, shut up and be happy. :)
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Garoad Kuroda
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07-25-2006 16:11
The media, as in what they report and why they report it, isn't liberal, overall the media is $.

However, the individuals reporting for the media are more liberal than the rest of the country, according to their own opinions.

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=829

Interpret however you'd like.

Now shaddup and try to explain to me why having a vocal Muslim community that spreads a positive, pro-peace message is a bad thing.... since it is the thread's real topic.
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
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07-25-2006 16:41
From: Garoad Kuroda
The media, as in what they report and why they report it, isn't liberal, overall the media is $.

However, the individuals reporting for the media are more liberal than the rest of the country, according to their own opinions.

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=829

Interpret however you'd like.

Now shaddup and try to explain to me why having a vocal Muslim community that spreads a positive, pro-peace message is a bad thing.... since it is the thread's real topic.



Oh, I think it's a good thing. As a concept.

However, very bad for the Muslims themselves involved. That's why they say nothing. We're a country where someone's race is more important than their message.
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Lorelei Patel
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07-25-2006 16:52
From: Corvus Drake
Oh, I think it's a good thing. As a concept.

However, very bad for the Muslims themselves involved. That's why they say nothing. We're a country where someone's race is more important than their message.


You still haven't explained why it's a bad thing. I can't see how anyone could possibly object to a rally of Muslims decrying the crap done in their name. I think people have been patiently waiting to see exactly that.

Corvus, how are you so sure that "that's why they say nothing?" Are you just conjecturing? Because someone could just as easily conjecture that they are saying nothing because many/most of them tacitly agree with such things.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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07-25-2006 16:53
yall are forgetting the most important part of all this, the party at my house at 10pm est tonight :D
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Garoad Kuroda
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07-25-2006 16:59
From: Corvus Drake
Oh, I think it's a good thing. As a concept.

However, very bad for the Muslims themselves involved. That's why they say nothing. We're a country where someone's race is more important than their message.


That's a really negative view to have of your country... (and wrong in my opinion.)
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
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07-25-2006 17:01
From: Billybob Goodliffe
yall are forgetting the most important part of all this, the party at my house at 10pm est tonight :D


Troll! Get to work writing up flames and maybe I'll consider it, although, I can't make it due to RL fun activities... so I'd just consider it and reject it anyway.. sorry.. :D
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
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07-25-2006 17:06
From: Garoad Kuroda
That's a really negative view to have of your country... (and wrong in my opinion.)



Violence against Hindi people went up 42% in the USA since 9/11/01. That's not even the right ethnicity, but all are tied to being called "terrorists" and results of vigilante "patriotism".
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Garoad Kuroda
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07-25-2006 17:15
From: Lorelei Patel
You still haven't explained why it's a bad thing. I can't see how anyone could possibly object to a rally of Muslims decrying the crap done in their name. I think people have been patiently waiting to see exactly that.

Corvus, how are you so sure that "that's why they say nothing?" Are you just conjecturing? Because someone could just as easily conjecture that they are saying nothing because many/most of them tacitly agree with such things.


I think he's trying to say that the Muslims that speak out will be attacked in some way by hateful bigoted Americans, which I very strongly disagree with.

OR

Perhaps they could be literally attacked by extremist Muslims who disagree with their message. Of course, they're being attacked and killed by extemist Muslims ANYWAY (in the mideast), and they should really consider themselves at war with those types, so...

I don't think that'd likely happen, and that's the ONLY possible explanation I can think of--but guess what? Violence didn't stop the African American civil rights movement did it? There are some things worth standing up and speaking out for, and if your religion and peace aren't two of them, what is?
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
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07-25-2006 17:25
From: Corvus Drake
Violence against Hindi people went up 42% in the USA since 9/11/01. That's not even the right ethnicity, but all are tied to being called "terrorists" and results of vigilante "patriotism".


But that tells us nothing about how the majority of Americans feel, and everyone knows there was an increase. Up 42% from what, 6 incidents of racism? (I know I'm under-exaggerating.) If there was a poll that said 42% of Americans blamed all Muslims for 9/11 or some such rubbish, then I'd be more alarmed.

And again, if you're a Muslim carrying an American flag and marching in a pro-peace/democracy demonstration, I find it hard to believe that there's going to be much hatred towards you. Silence and hiding can only make things worse.
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Asher Bertrand
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07-25-2006 17:55
From: Corvus Drake
Violence against Hindi people went up 42% in the USA since 9/11/01. That's not even the right ethnicity, but all are tied to being called "terrorists" and results of vigilante "patriotism".


Up 42 percent from what? If there was one attack in 2000 and two in 2001, that's a 100 percent increase, but it's still only two. Not to excuse two, but it's easy to use statistics to be alarmist. I am honestly not aware of a crime wave against Muslims in this country. Or Hindu/Sikh, either. I could be wrong; point me out to better information if I am.
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07-25-2006 18:12
From: Lorelei Patel
As naive as claiming to know more about a business than someone who spends 40+ hours a week in it, I wonder?

Furthermore, I never said "liberal bastion." That's your doing. Some are liberal, some are not. But you can damn sure bet that policy I referred to was put in place to make liberals like you happy. So, shut up and be happy. :)



No. It was put in place to make sure we are all spoon fed media controlled images of minorities in bad lights, in order to keep us squabbling like crazed peruvian fighting frogs.

You should pay more attention to your surroundings during your 40plus.
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07-25-2006 18:16
From: Kendra Bancroft
No. It was put in place to make sure we are all spoon fed media controlled images of minorities in bad lights, in order to keep us squabbling like crazed peruvian fighting frogs.

You should pay more attention to your surroundings during your 40plus.



LOL is the proper response here.

Kendra, I'd be stunned to learn you believe more than 10 percent of the crap you post. I refuse to believe anyone could be so naturally dunderheaded.
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07-25-2006 18:45
*jumps back in with both jackbooted feet after busting his hymen.... errr hiatus....*

GO ISRAEL!!!! SHALOM. :cool:
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07-25-2006 18:48
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*jumps back in with both jackbooted feet after busting his hymen.... errr hiatus....*

GO ISRAEL!!!! SHALOM. :cool:



*hug* I was missing you!
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