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Disturbing level of hatred

Foolish Frost
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09-03-2006 09:10
<looks about>

Wow.

I'm not much for moderating, but I have to say that would be permabanhammer time if ever i saw one. And a possible deletion. And a discussion with police.

And a severe whapping with a rolled up newspaper if I ever met the person in RL.

:(
Sensual Casanova
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09-03-2006 09:24
I wonder if Cristiano knows that the "victim" in all this was the one that made the threats...
This all makes me sick, death threats are something serious and for someone to fake them just for attention and to hurt others has a very sick mind and needs to sick help, like NOW!
Nyx Divine
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09-03-2006 09:58
From: Sensual Casanova
I wonder if Cristiano knows that the "victim" in all this was the one that made the threats...


How do you know this?
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Foolish Frost
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09-03-2006 10:06
Aye. That would be simple to find out, more than likely: Same IP.
Sensual Casanova
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09-03-2006 10:09
From: Nyx Divine
How do you know this?

Because those same threats were made on the sl-forums.com and the admin was able to match the IP to both accounts.
Cristiano Midnight
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09-03-2006 10:20
From: Sensual Casanova
Because those same threats were made on the sl-forums.com and the admin was able to match the IP to both accounts.


Sensual,

Question for you - I just looked at your member list, and although there is a MadamG Zagato listed as a member, there are no posts from this member. How do you know that someone else didn't register the name, and how are you doing IP matches with no posts?
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Foolish Frost
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09-03-2006 10:22
From: Cristiano Midnight
Sensual,

Question for you - I just looked at your member list, and although there is a MadamG Zagato listed as a member, there are no posts from this member. How do you know that someone else didn't register the name, and how are you doing IP matches with no posts?


Good point. We could be that it was registered by the same person, so that she could not respond under her own name. Evil, but possible.

:confused:
Sensual Casanova
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09-03-2006 10:23
From: Cristiano Midnight
Sensual,

Question for you - I just looked at your member list, and although there is a MadamG Zagato listed as a member, there are no posts from this member. How do you know that someone else didn't register the name, and how are you doing IP matches with no posts?

The threats were posted under a different name, there were posts they were moved to an archive because the admin did not think that kind of thread was appropriate to remain open much less in poublic view, you can contact the admin yourself to confirm, better yet I am asking you to contact the admin to confirm to get all this BS drama over once and for all, I have also contacted SC but they refuse to do any research...
Cristiano Midnight
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09-03-2006 10:27
From: Sensual Casanova
The threats were posted under a different name, there were posts they were moved to an archive because the admin did not think that kind of thread was appropriate to remain open much less in poublic view, you can contact the admin yourself to confirm, better yet I am asking you to contact the admin to confirm to get all this BS drama over once and for all, I have also contacted SC but they refuse to do any research...


Obviously the threats were posted under another name, that doesn't address what they were compared to - I do not see any posts from MadamG on the site to have compared them to, or any way of knowing that the person registered on that site is in fact MadamG. That is what I was asking about.
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Sensual Casanova
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09-03-2006 10:41
From: Cristiano Midnight
Obviously the threats were posted under another name, that doesn't address what they were compared to - I do not see any posts from MadamG on the site to have compared them to, or any way of knowing that the person registered on that site is in fact MadamG. That is what I was asking about.

As I said the IP addresses were matched from both accounts, The IP address was also banned from that forum and MadamG use to frequiently visit that forum although, she can't anymore... please speak with the admin for more details... The threat thread was removed from public view and into an archive.
Cristiano Midnight
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09-03-2006 10:48
From: Sensual Casanova
As I said the IP addresses were matched from both accounts, The IP address was also banned from that forum and MadamG use to frequiently visit that forum although, she can't anymore... please speak with the admin for more details... The threat thread was removed from public view and into an archive.


That's fine, I will - but you still did not answer the single question I asked - where are MadamG's posts? I don't see any from her on the site at all - were they removed also?
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Sensual Casanova
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09-03-2006 10:51
From: Cristiano Midnight
That's fine, I will - but you still did not answer the single question I asked - where are MadamG's posts? I don't see any from her on the site at all - were they removed also?

I dont think she made actual posts other than through PM's to the admin
Lost Newcomb
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09-03-2006 10:58
From: Sensual Casanova
there were posts they were moved to an archive because the admin did not think that kind of thread was appropriate to remain open much less in poublic view, ...


From: Sensual Casanova
I dont think she made actual posts other than through PM's to the admin


:confused:

Wow, that's a pretty big credibility gap. :eek:

Regards,

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Sensual Casanova
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09-03-2006 10:59
From: Lost Newcomb
:confused:

Wow, that's a pretty big credibility gap. :eek:

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The threat posts were moved to an archive, but thanks for not following along...
Deuteronomy Chase
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09-03-2006 11:03
Following all this...took me about an hour to read all these posts. Sorry this is happening MG.

Question for Sensual: Is MG really stupid enough to use the same IP address to sign up 2 different accounts and make these threats against herself as you have acussed her of doing? Or are you just stupid enough to forge an IP?

Question 2 for Sensual: Do you know that her ISP has records of this that your site admin cannot touch? They can see exactly where she, you and I have been browsing? This is something you cannot alter, so although you CAN alter your website logs and the IP's in the database...you'll have a hard time explaining why there are no visits to your site under that IP when the ISP's records are examined.

I know this all too well from having my ex make false acussations against me. Went through a lot having my kids removed from my home. It's not a game. I was very surprised when the ISP records cleared my name...now she has a rap sheet.
Lost Newcomb
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09-03-2006 11:05
Yeah since she owns/admins sl-forum. It would be funny when law enforcement gets involved in this.
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Sensual Casanova
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09-03-2006 11:07
From: Deuteronomy Chase
Following all this...took me about an hour to read all these posts. Sorry this is happening MG.

Question for Sensual: Is MG really stupid enough to use the same IP address to sign up 2 different accounts and make these threats against herself as you have acussed her of doing? Or are you just stupid enough to forge an IP?

Question 2 for Sensual: Do you know that her ISP has records of this that your site admin cannot touch? They can see exactly where she, you and I have been browsing? This is something you cannot alter, so although you CAN alter your website logs and the IP's in the database...you'll have a hard time explaining why there are no visits to your site under that IP when the ISP's records are examined.

I know this all too well from having my ex make false acussations against me. Went through a lot having my kids removed from my home. It's not a game. I was very surprised when the ISP records cleared my name...now she has a rap sheet.


Question 3 for Sensual: do you know that Deuteronomy Chase is an alt, more than likely of said victim as he/she only posts when it is defend her...

Sensual Casanova: Ofcourse, I am not stupid.
Lost Newcomb
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09-03-2006 11:10
From: Sensual Casanova
Question 3 for Sensual: do you know that Deuteronomy Chase is an alt, more than likely of said victim as he/she only posts when it is defend her...

Sensual Casanova: Ofcourse, I am not stupid.


Hey am I an alt of Sensual :eek:,

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Deuteronomy Chase
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09-03-2006 11:14
From: Sensual Casanova
Question 3 for Sensual: do you know that Deuteronomy Chase is an alt, more than likely of said victim as he/she only posts when it is defend her...

Sensual Casanova: Ofcourse, I am not stupid.

Why does your response not surprise me. Who posts in your defense? Does it really bother you that others are posting in her defense so much that you have to make more false acussations? You should really get over yourself. Apparantley everyone is an alt of her according to you.

You still didn't answer the questions.
Sensual Casanova
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09-03-2006 11:20
From: Deuteronomy Chase
Why does your response not surprise me. Who posts in your defense? Does it really bother you that others are posting in her defense so much that you have to make more false acussations? You should really get over yourself. Apparantley everyone is an alt of her according to you.

You still didn't answer the questions.

Are you denying it? You know abuse of alts in the forums is against the TOS?
Deuteronomy Chase
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09-03-2006 11:32
From: Sensual Casanova
Are you denying it? You know abuse of alts in the forums is against the TOS?
You still have not answered my question. Please stop trying to divert the converstation.

Are you denying that you are using SLForums.com to launch a massive campaign against your enemies?
Are you denying that you are paying newbs to join SLFoums.com and make posts on your behalf?

I don't mind going head to head with you. You do not frighten me in the slightest.
You are only accussing me of being an alt becuase you want to avoid the real issues. I do not know you and frankly do not want to know you. However, you are representing a website that collects identifying information from its members and are responsible for maintaining it. So if you are saying publicly that someone made threaths against themselves, then defend your claim and stop accussing everone of being an alt when they ask you a tough question.

You broght it up, so try to stay on task.
Sensual Casanova
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09-03-2006 11:37
From: Deuteronomy Chase
You still have not answered my question. Please stop trying to divert the converstation.

Are you denying that you are using SLForums.com to launch a massive campaign against your enemies?
Are you denying that you are paying newbs to join SLFoums.com and make posts on your behalf?

I don't mind going head to head with you. You do not frighten me in the slightest.
You are only accussing me of being an alt becuase you want to avoid the real issues. I do not know you and frankly do not want to know you. However, you are representing a website that collects identifying information from its members and are responsible for maintaining it. So if you are saying publicly that someone made threaths against themselves, then defend your claim and stop accussing everone of being an alt when they ask you a tough question.

You broght it up, so try to stay on task.

Yes I deny it, not only are those accusations ridiculous but so far fecthed it is unreal.
Now your turn?
Deuteronomy Chase
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09-03-2006 11:46
From: Sensual Casanova
Yes I deny it, not only are those accusations ridiculous but so far fecthed it is unreal.
Now your turn?
I do not plan on allowing you to get me spun in your web of lies. The next thing you know I'll be accussed of making two accounts on your website and anyone else who opposses you probably.

The fact that you would even post something like that about someone else says a lot about the type of person you are and about how you operate.

My involvement in this converstation ends here because there are no other rational persons responding at this time. So post more accussations about me, other people, and yourself preferably. You should take a long hard look at yourself and ask yourself some questions. Seriously.
Sensual Casanova
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09-03-2006 11:47
From: Deuteronomy Chase
I do not plan on allowing you to get me spun in your web of lies. The next thing you know I'll be accussed of making two accounts on your website and anyone else who opposses you probably.

The fact that you would even post something like that about someone else says a lot about the type of person you are and about how you operate.

My involvement in this converstation ends here because there are no other rational persons responding at this time. So post more accussations about me, other people, and yourself preferably. You should take a long hard look at yourself and ask yourself some questions. Seriously.

Bye MadamG, have a good life, I am not sure what you are going to do when the forums close and have no moderations to protect you of your lies and manipulation... but I can care less, please seek help.
Deuteronomy Chase
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09-03-2006 11:49
Logging off.
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