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Child girl AV, sex with Adult male AV? is this right???

Kendra Bancroft
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08-10-2006 10:00
From: Damien Skolem
Cartoon child porn is no longer allowed. Anything that you can tell is a child revolving around cartoons is not allowed. People have misinterpretted it to mean that it must look like a real life child and real life pictures but that isn't the case.



In the case of convicted molesters you are right. It violated his PAROLE.

See how that works?

The law you keep using as example for your jihad against ageplayers has to do with parole violations.
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Lina Pussycat
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08-10-2006 10:03
From: aEoLuS Waves
Thank you for your reply.

The thing is that its hard to see whats ageplay here and what is child porn. In real life clubs if you want to have fun with some ageplay involved you cna see we are adults. No children are involved and we also know enough examples of people who infiltrate and say they are their for ageplay but are actual pedophiles.

You cant tell if it is and you cant tell if its not.


See the problem is most of it is really misleading here. There arnt actual children involved. Its a fetish with a 3d representation. It has come up before several times on the linden's end. The avatar is basically a costume. It just seems all in all to be a crusade to completely shelter kids from the real world. SL is by no means child pornography even if you view it as such and if you are then there in lies the actual problem. A few people that have been abused have come forward including myself and speak on behalf of the age-players rights. I myself do find it gross or perverse but i still respect the fact that its jsut a fantasy between two consenting adults. I dont pry into other people's business on SL nor in real life.
Lorelei Patel
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08-10-2006 10:12
Mondo, I understand that your family has endured a traumatic event, and I don't think I'm out of line in surmising that what happened to your family is driving your responses on this thread.

That said, how much actual research have you actually done on this topic? Or are you only arguing from emotion and assumption? For example, have you read any materials on the topic? Ever talked with an ageplayer or pedophile about how they feel and what they think?

From: Mondo Kongo
Can the ageplay avocates at least see that people like myself don't want to see and can not tolerate child sexuality with an adult without reliving some bit of the past trauma we have suffered?


As a matter of fact, I do see it. However, that is not reason enough to start censoring others. If you go down that road, you have to also consider banning abduction/forced sex role play on behalf of rape victims, gun play on behalf of mugging victims, etc. And for that matter, you do make an assumption when you say that you do this on another group's behalf.

You may not want to believe it, but some people overcome past trauma by acting it out again in role play to an outcome that is more desirable than what happened in real life. And others just simply aren't as outraged about it as you seem to want them to be.

From: someone
I'm sorry but those little tiny av's don't resemble a consenting adult at ALL, and it is therefore interpreted as child porn.


But see, this is where it gets ridiculous for me. Of course an child avatar doesn't resmble a consenting adult. Neither does an adult avatar. Avatars don't consent. They're cartoons.

From: someone
And lets not be so naive to think that childeren are not on the Adult grid. They see this and might think its normal behavior. I mean normal that EVERYBODY does it and condones the activity which is by this thread obviously not the case.


And I submit, again, that if you are truely concerned about limiting adult/child sexplay on SL, you'll have to spend more time worrying about adult av/adult av sex, because most of those kids who sneak on the grid are probably going to try to pass themselves off as adult as possible.
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Damien Skolem
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08-10-2006 10:21
From: Kendra Bancroft
In the case of convicted molesters you are right. It violated his PAROLE.

See how that works?

The law you keep using as example for your jihad against ageplayers has to do with parole violations.



"His conviction found him guilty of numerous charges related to both the "virtual" child pornography and the real child pornography. He was the first person convicted under the 2003 PROTECT act for life-like virtual child pornography."


You just don't want to read what you don't want to see. Don't shoot the messenger. These aren't my laws but all you and your friends who scream jihadist are doing is saying that it's legal when I've told you as well as others that it is infact not legal.



If you and ageplayers reading this were wise, you would be more cautious.

Earlier, people were claiming it does not apply to cartoon characters. See why this is brought up?
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including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that, under specified circumstances, depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or depicts an image that is or appears to be of a minor engaging in such conduct and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
Sunspot Pixie
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08-10-2006 10:24
From: Kendra Bancroft
In the case of convicted molesters you are right. It violated his PAROLE.

See how that works?

The law you keep using as example for your jihad against ageplayers has to do with parole violations.

Exactly.

I have an alcoholic cousin, who has had countless DUIs.

He is not allowed on drop of alcohol or to even be at a place that has alcohol present. The rules are quite different for prior offenders, especially multiple repeat offenders.

It's really just a waste of time to try and make Damien understand why he is wrong.

Damien, why is it that I have a co-worker who STILL gets japanese cartoon sex DVDs off of ebay and other places on a regular basis?

Why, when Aeolus has called every major law enforcement agency in the western hemisphere, has the FBI or teh DOJ not come down on LL?
Kendra Bancroft
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08-10-2006 10:27
From: Damien Skolem
"His conviction found him guilty of numerous charges related to both the "virtual" child pornography and the real child pornography. He was the first person convicted under the 2003 PROTECT act for life-like virtual child pornography."


You just don't want to read what you don't want to see. Don't shoot the messenger. These aren't my laws but all you and your friends who scream jihadist are doing is saying that it's legal when I've told you as well as others that it is infact not legal.



If you and ageplayers reading this were wise, you would be more cautious.

Earlier, people were claiming it does not apply to cartoon characters. See why this is brought up?



You consistantly choose to misrepresent the laws on the books. Why? Are you afraid without those laws you will be free to molest children?


Cartoon characters applied in HIS case. It violated his PAROLE. Are you seriously this dumb?
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Damien Skolem
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08-10-2006 10:29
From: Mondo Kongo
Just as you think its not, I can think it is...



I corrected myself in previous posts linking ageplay with mental illness. And your saying people into Ageplay dont dress up and simulate sex with a child? If they don't then how do they get aroused in the first place?



Didn't catch that insert about non-ageplayer?



True. But when I little girl in the adult grid asks me to be her daddy? I don't need that shit in my face. I can if it intrudes and forces me to adress it.



I don't have an opinion on Damien, he caused himself to seriously lose face. I guess thats IS my opinion on Damien.



We do realize its legal under the protective umbrella of being a lifestyle, groovy. But, in your fist sentance you say you don't know why I think its a perversion?



I aknowledged being schooled in ageplay earlier by the fetish advocates, also giving the benefit of the doubt and actually apologizing! Truly an effort on my part has been given to the ageplay folks.



I agree now since sleeping on it. We had a traumatic event with our child and a molester and my initial stance was a Knee-Jerk. I was outraged for good reason. If there is any medium that can nuture pedophilia or the desire to commit a child crime, open ageplay on SL is definately one of them. Or can you say, honestly, that ageplay is in no way an attraction the sick ones? If you can I have nothing else to say to you.

Can the ageplay avocates at least see that people like myself don't want to see and can not tolerate child sexuality with an adult without reliving some bit of the past trauma we have suffered? The initial Post in this thread smelled of snooping. But I can't say that in my horror I wouldnt look at the spectacle a little closer to verify what my eyes were seeing.

If people get off on Hot monkey sex with a child avatar. Do it somewhere Waaaay up in the sky, is that so hard? This thread would have never appeared if there would have been discretion involved when portraying, visually, what can be interpreted as an illegal act.
I'm sorry but those little tiny av's don't resemble a consenting adult at ALL, and it is therefore interpreted as child porn. And lets not be so naive to think that childeren are not on the Adult grid. They see this and might think its normal behavior. I mean normal that EVERYBODY does it and condones the activity which is by this thread obviously not the case.


Mondo, this is what they were hoping to achieve which is your apology and I'm sorry you feel that I've been discredited when at least I'm still trying to get through to them but I'm not in this arguement to win over friends or capture the hearts of everyone with fake tolerance and acceptance. I'm sorry that this seems to be the case alot these days. People throw out the words closed-minded the same way people throw out terms sexist, racist so loosely in order to get people to shut up or to accept their behavior when they themselves can't live and let live if someone speaks the truth that they don't share the same point of view.
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Is age-play legal or illegal?

PROHIBITS
including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that, under specified circumstances, depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or depicts an image that is or appears to be of a minor engaging in such conduct and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
Sunspot Pixie
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08-10-2006 10:35
From: Damien Skolem
Mondo, this is what they were hoping to achieve which is your apology and I'm sorry you feel that I've been discredited when at least I'm still trying to get through to them but I'm not in this arguement to win over friends or capture the hearts of everyone with fake tolerance and acceptance. I'm sorry that this seems to be the case alot these days. People throw out the words closed-minded the same way people throw out terms sexist, racist so loosely in order to get people to shut up or to accept their behavior when they themselves can't live and let live if someone speaks the truth that they don't share the same point of view.

People also throw out words like "paedophile" to try and get people to do things.

Did they teach you how to formulate run-on sentences in your psychology programme?
Lorelei Patel
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08-10-2006 10:36
From: Damien Skolem
in order to get people to shut up or to accept their behavior when they themselves can't live and let live if someone speaks the truth that they don't share the same point of view.


O irony.
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Slip Barrett
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08-10-2006 10:37
From: Lorelei Patel

That said, how much actual research have you actually done on this topic? Or are you only arguing from emotion and assumption? For example, have you read any materials on the topic? Ever talked with an ageplayer or pedophile about how they feel and what they think?


I work in the Criminal Justice System. So let me just touch on a few things you mentioned here.

From: someone

But see, this is where it gets ridiculous for me. Of course an child avatar doesn't resmble a consenting adult. Neither does an adult avatar. Avatars don't consent. They're cartoons.


Cartoons that depict Child Pornography which is in debate in congress right now. It is illegal to have child pornography depicting real children, and their trying to get a law passed in which it will involve art or cartoons as well. Last I heard, it wasn't passed. It may be now.

From: someone

And I submit, again, that if you are truely concerned about limiting adult/child sexplay on SL, you'll have to spend more time worrying about adult av/adult av sex, because most of those kids who sneak on the grid are probably going to try to pass themselves off as adult as possible.


That's not a huge concern though as it is not against the law to have cybersex with a minor that's playing an adult toon <b>unless</b> the adult playing with the minor has knowledge that he/she is a minor to begin with.

Anyone attracted to this sort of play is a pedophile. It's pointless to justify it because it does depict a child having sex with an adult which is wrong irregardless if it's toons. It may not be real, but it doesn't make it right.

Child Pornography is defined as:

Visual images (or sometimes written passages) depicting minors (under the age of legal consent) in explicit sexual activity. In some states, “advocacy” of child pornography is itself a form of child pornography. Possession of child pornography, even a single “deleted” image on a home computer, is illegal.

It's disgusting to think that people use Second Life to fufill any fantasy involving a child. It's one thing to have a roleplay involving a rape with two conscenting adults. Children are exploited enough as it is. Even if no specific child is the victim, Children in second life should not be represented in a sexual manner in any form. Try and justify it or pass it off all you want. It shouldn't be happening to begin with.
Six Kennedy
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08-10-2006 10:40
From: Lorelei Patel
Ever talked with an ageplayer or pedophile about how they feel and what they think?


OMG ! I promised myself I wouldnt respond to any of this garbage one way or the other but I need to break that promise to say WTF? Who gives a shit wtf a pedophile thinks.. Most ppl dont have a bleeding heart for the poor basturds that have this
" affliction". Fine fine they can think what they want.. down with the thought police, fine you made your point . People can think what they want... thats fabulous.. but if you expect.. that man, a father who has went through what he says he has to sit and have a conversation with a poor misunderstood pedophile to gain some understanding .. thats the most ABSURD thing I have ever heard on the forums, anywhere , period. They have a right to " think " what they want and society has a right to " think" they are the scum of the universe.
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-10-2006 10:44
From: Lorelei Patel
O irony.



I'm beginning to like you.
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Lina Pussycat
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08-10-2006 10:45
From: Slip Barrett
I work in the Criminal Justice System. So let me just touch on a few things you mentioned here.



Cartoons that depict Child Pornography which is in debate in congress right now. It is illegal to have child pornography depicting real children, and their trying to get a law passed in which it will involve art or cartoons as well. Last I heard, it wasn't passed. It may be now.



That's not a huge concern though as it is not against the law to have cybersex with a minor that's playing an adult toon <b>unless</b> the adult playing with the minor has knowledge that he/she is a minor to begin with.

Anyone attracted to this sort of play is a pedophile. It's pointless to justify it because it does depict a child having sex with an adult which is wrong irregardless if it's toons. It may not be real, but it doesn't make it right.

Child Pornography is defined as:

Visual images (or sometimes written passages) depicting minors (under the age of legal consent) in explicit sexual activity. In some states, “advocacy” of child pornography is itself a form of child pornography. Possession of child pornography, even a single “deleted” image on a home computer, is illegal.

It's disgusting to think that people use Second Life to fufill any fantasy involving a child. It's one thing to have a roleplay involving a rape with two conscenting adults. Children are exploited enough as it is. Even if no specific child is the victim, Children in second life should not be represented in a sexual manner in any form. Try and justify it or pass it off all you want. It shouldn't be happening to begin with.


The thing is right here "It's disgusting to think that people use Second Life to fufill any fantasy involving a child." Isnt true as a criminal justice person im sure your aware of what age play is and the person that is the child avatar in this situation is the one playing out the fantasy be it in child form or adult form. I think passing the law to include toons is absurd because you cant prove the age of a toon at all. Its also absurd due to the abundance of hentai out there alot of japanese drawings look like young girls but could easily be older and there is no real way to prove otherwise unless they say the age of the person in the hentai at some point.

While I agree there are some points of it that are disturbing I find that law to be debatable in its entirity which is likely why its being debated. If these moralistic people on their crusades to protect the youth would stop and think about it a bit more instead of trying to push their ideal's on everyone else who doesnt chose to live a certain way half the laws in effect wouldnt be there. Gay marriage is a perfect example of what i mean. Those that find it morally wrong pushed to ban it.
Lost Newcomb
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08-10-2006 10:47
From: Six Kennedy
OMG ! I promised myself I wouldnt respond to any of this garbage one way or the other but I need to break that promise to say WTF? Who gives a shit wtf a pedophile thinks.. Most ppl dont have a bleeding heart for the poor basturds that have this
" affliction". Fine fine they can think what they want.. down with the thought police, fine you made your point . People can think what they want... thats fabulous.. but if you expect.. that man, a father who has went through what he says he has to sit and have a conversation with a poor misunderstood pedophile to gain some understanding .. thats the most ABSURD thing I have ever heard on the forums, anywhere , period. They have a right to " think " what they want and society has a right to " think" they are the scum of the universe.


Six... ignore these pedophiles and peodphile sympathizers and make me some good male hair. I really can't find any good :(

You know there is a huge market for this, and most male hair is purely crap.


Yes, I hijacked this thread to speak about something that concerns SL. Geez. Get it, age-play is fine if you do it at home, but when you bring it on SL, you are involving imagry of chid like avatars that can be identified as a kid (even has names that are childish names and dress like one), this is illegal under US law. Not to mention they use photosourced skins of actual kids.

Back to Six, so like, can men get hair that's not like a Fabio like design or curt cobain design? Not all of us are Goreans you know.
Mondo Kongo
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08-10-2006 10:47
From: Damien Skolem
Mondo, this is what they were hoping to achieve which is your apology and I'm sorry you feel that I've been discredited ...


I havent been following your arguments. You've allowed yourself to fall victim even though the opposition logic is to use only the snippits of your statements.

I'm no lawyer. So i won't even begin to quote Law because it is so vague it can be twisted to serve a prticular side even though the verbage is clear. Thats how the criminal defense system works.

I did look up the definition of Molester and Pedofile. But I dare not stir the opposition with what I found. I'm quite frankly tired of the juvenille responses from most of them. So i won't give them any more opportunity rediculous tongue twisting. And being called "blind" "sick" or a "knee-jerk paranoid".

They want me to learn and understand. People that succomb to this round-a-bout conversion in the name of fairness, most times end up wearing Nike's and space suits.
I hear and aknowledge there points of view all the while never getting one shred of agreeance to my main point. So it is pointless, like I said before.

Say my neighbors in RL want to screw each other as childeren in there home I say go for it! As soon as I see it in Public, which a true ageplayer wouldnt do, I'm calling the cops and let them sort it out. If they get in my face in RL I'll report it.

This ought to stir some shit up here... did you notice most of the opposition here seems to be women? Just an observation.
Lina Pussycat
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08-10-2006 10:50
From: Lost Newcomb
Six... ignore these pedophiles and peodphile sympathizers and make me some good male hair. I really can't find any good :(

You know there is a huge market for this, and most male hair is purely crap.


Yes, I hijacked this thread to speak about something that concerns SL. Geez. Get it, age-play is fine if you do it at home, but when you bring it on SL, you are involving imagry of chid like avatars that can be identified as a kid (even has names that are childish names and dress like one), this is illegal under US law. Not to mention they use photosourced skins of actual kids.

Back to Six, so like, can men get hair that's not like a Fabio like design or curt cobain design? Not all of us are Goreans you know.


Prove they used photosourcing from children. I have pointed out already and if you look Child Skins dont have details what so ever. Some do but they arnt photosources by any means. Go look around and find me one actual photo realistic child skin.
Mondo Kongo
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08-10-2006 10:51
From: Sunspot Pixie
Did they teach you how to formulate run-on sentences in your psychology programme?


I rest my case with this statement. I has so much to do with, and upholds her argument.
Lina Pussycat
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08-10-2006 10:53
From: Mondo Kongo
I havent been following your arguments. You've allowed yourself to fall victim even though the opposition logic is to use only the snippits of your statements.

I'm no lawyer. So i won't even begin to quote Law because it is so vague it can be twisted to serve a prticular side even though the verbage is clear. Thats how the criminal defense system works.

I did look up the definition of Molester and Pedofile. But I dare not stir the opposition with what I found. I'm quite frankly tired of the juvenille responses from most of them. So i won't give them any more opportunity rediculous tongue twisting. And being called "blind" "sick" or a "knee-jerk paranoid".

They want me to learn and understand. People that succomb to this round-a-bout conversion in the name of fairness, most times end up wearing Nike's and space suits.
I hear and aknowledge there points of view all the while never getting one shred of agreeance to my main point. So it is pointless, like I said before.

Say my neighbors in RL want to screw each other as childeren in there home I say go for it! As soon as I see it in Public, which a true ageplayer wouldnt do, I'm calling the cops and let them sort it out. If they get in my face in RL I'll report it.

This ought to stir some shit up here... did you notice most of the opposition here seems to be women? Just an observation.


An age player in SL isnt taking it public either. The original poster of this was snooping around on someones property and peeking into their house. They found it wrong when someone was on the privacy of their own land doing it. They werent in a club doing it. She or he invaded their privacy then came to the forums and started a thread about it to stir up trouble. I could see if they were at someone elses house that wasnt ok with them being there and doing that or for that matter in a public place but they were in private. I'd of said something about it if they were in public.
Lorelei Patel
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08-10-2006 10:54
From: Six Kennedy
OMG ! I promised myself I wouldnt respond to any of this garbage one way or the other but I need to break that promise to say WTF? Who gives a shit wtf a pedophile thinks.. Most ppl dont have a bleeding heart for the poor basturds that have this
" affliction". Fine fine they can think what they want.. down with the thought police, fine you made your point . People can think what they want... thats fabulous.. but if you expect.. that man, a father who has went through what he says he has to sit and have a conversation with a poor misunderstood pedophile to gain some understanding .. thats the most ABSURD thing I have ever heard on the forums, anywhere , period. They have a right to " think " what they want and society has a right to " think" they are the scum of the universe.


Strike a nerve?

I also wondered if he had read or done research. If you bothered to read my comment in context, I was asking how much knowledge another poster had on a topic to see if they were talking from a place of knowldege or just talking from emotion.

It's easy to see which of those two places you're coming from.

Yes, you can think whatever you want about them. But as always, an informed opinion is a better opinion -- no matter what you eventually decide.
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Mondo Kongo
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08-10-2006 10:55
From: Lina Pussycat
An age player in SL isnt taking it public either. The original poster of this was snooping around on someones property and peeking into their house.


Also agreed with you in an earlier post to a degree.

Whoops ....edit... but I have been approached by child avatars.
Lost Newcomb
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08-10-2006 10:55
From: Lina Pussycat
Prove they used photosourcing from children. I have pointed out already and if you look Child Skins dont have details what so ever. Some do but they arnt photosources by any means. Go look around and find me one actual photo realistic child skin.


ARE YOU SIX KENNEDY ?

Jesus H. Christ, when did I write a msg to you? Damn smelly pedo's always find me and try to harasse me online. Hey guess what DUDE, I am over 30. So leave your smelly candy coated fingers off me.

Back to my topic, so like anyone know where to find some good men's hair?
Damien Skolem
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08-10-2006 10:55
From: Mondo Kongo
I havent been following your arguments. You've allowed yourself to fall victim even though the opposition logic is to use only the snippits of your statements.

I'm no lawyer. So i won't even begin to quote Law because it is so vague it can be twisted to serve a prticular side even though the verbage is clear. Thats how the criminal defense system works.

I did look up the definition of Molester and Pedofile. But I dare not stir the opposition with what I found. I'm quite frankly tired of the juvenille responses from most of them. So i won't give them any more opportunity rediculous tongue twisting. And being called "blind" "sick" or a "knee-jerk paranoid".

They want me to learn and understand. People that succomb to this round-a-bout conversion in the name of fairness, most times end up wearing Nike's and space suits.
I hear and aknowledge there points of view all the while never getting one shred of agreeance to my main point. So it is pointless, like I said before.

Say my neighbors in RL want to screw each other as childeren in there home I say go for it! As soon as I see it in Public, which a true ageplayer wouldnt do, I'm calling the cops and let them sort it out. If they get in my face in RL I'll report it.

This ought to stir some shit up here... did you notice most of the opposition here seems to be women? Just an observation.


You have every right to feel the way that you feel. There's always the ignore function that works well and since this topic is going in circles with no real relevation, I'm thinking of using it myself.
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Is age-play legal or illegal?

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including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that, under specified circumstances, depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or depicts an image that is or appears to be of a minor engaging in such conduct and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
Lina Pussycat
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08-10-2006 10:58
From: Lost Newcomb
ARE YOU SIX KENNEDY ?

Jesus H. Christ, when did I write a msg to you? Damn smelly pedo's always find me and try to harasse me online. Hey guess what DUDE, I am over 30. So leave your smelly candy coated fingers off me.

Back to my topic, so like anyone know where to find some good men's hair?


Im far from a pedo and that was uncalled for. 2 im a female, and 3 ive said pedophelia and child molestation is wrong at least 10 times in this thread. Get over yourself seriously.
Damien Skolem
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08-10-2006 10:59
From: Lorelei Patel
Strike a nerve?

I also wondered if he had read or done research. If you bothered to read my comment in context, I was asking how much knowledge another poster had on a topic to see if they were talking from a place of knowldege or just talking from emotion.

It's easy to see which of those two places you're coming from.

Yes, you can think whatever you want about them. But as always, an informed opinion is a better opinion -- no matter what you eventually decide.


In other words....

you want people to join you

That would play out like this...

Person joins to get a better opinion, person is now doing the same things they originally objected to, one less person to argue with you.
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Is age-play legal or illegal?

PROHIBITS
including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that, under specified circumstances, depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or depicts an image that is or appears to be of a minor engaging in such conduct and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
Lost Newcomb
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08-10-2006 10:59
From: Lina Pussycat
Im far from a pedo and that was uncalled for. 2 im a female, and 3 ive said pedophelia and child molestation is wrong at least 10 times in this thread. Get over yourself seriously.


Prove you are female.
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