Child girl AV, sex with Adult male AV? is this right???
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Damien Skolem
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08-09-2006 14:27
From: Phedre Aquitaine As far as I know, furries are also able to distinguish between anthropomorphic characters in a video game and animals. Rephrasing the question.. Are furries modelled after animals to the point to where in the perception of the beholder, when having sex with a furry, they think they are having sex with a real life animal such as a dog, a wolf or whatever that furry is modelled after? I've seen the furries that stand like humans and the ones that look like real animals that walk on all fours, look like real dogs and cats rather than a cartoonish version of animals. I'd like to know when human chars and furries have sex with furries, what is going through their mind about the physical traits. Do they think they are having sex with an animal more than a cartoon or a cartoon more than an animal? Do people have sex with the ones that look like real dogs? real cats?
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Is age-play legal or illegal?
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including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that, under specified circumstances, depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or depicts an image that is or appears to be of a minor engaging in such conduct and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
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Lorelei Patel
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08-09-2006 14:29
From: Mondo Kongo Again, as your fellow advocates have pointed out on numerous posts, I'm the sick one with the inability to separate RL from SL. And dont argue that SL is not a reality. You can see it and interact with it so it IS a real thing. Or is all the cash Anshecung has made fake? You know, I used to hang out in the Gor sims. Not proud of it, but there it is. I actually left because there were too many people there who couldn't distinguish fantasy from reality and really wanted to control others. Made it an icky place to be. Do some people in ageplay fantasize about real children? Quite possibly. Again, there is no harm in that alone. The harm comes when someone tries to act on it with a real child. If you're going to go after people who do that, you'll have my full support. But if you want to make thought crimes out of fantasies, forget it. You won't prevent anything by getting rid of ageplay. Pedophilia existed long before SL and it will exist long after SL. From: someone Although Im sure, for ONE of you out of the thousands, that problem will be something like "the Police won't let me rub my genitals on that little boy!" *sigh* Care to say which one of us that would be? Or do you just like to take potshots in our general direction?
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Damien Skolem
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08-09-2006 14:29
From: Tiger Zobel Why don't you go ask them?
But then, you don't seem to have asked Ageplayers anything, so why would I expect you to ask a Furry? Maybe if an ageplayer would come out and say I'm an ageplayer!! I am also aware that not everyone uses their furry or child avatars for sexual roleplay so going around asking all that look like furries and children wouldn't be very strategic nor would it go anywhere.
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Is age-play legal or illegal?
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including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that, under specified circumstances, depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or depicts an image that is or appears to be of a minor engaging in such conduct and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
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Lorelei Patel
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08-09-2006 14:31
From: Damien Skolem Maybe if an ageplayer would come out and say I'm an ageplayer!!
I am also aware that not everyone uses their furry or child avatars for sexual roleplay so going around asking all that look like furries and children wouldn't be very strategic nor would it go anywhere. One did and you totally missed it! It was even pointed out to you.
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Phedre Aquitaine
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08-09-2006 14:31
From: Damien Skolem Maybe if an ageplayer would come out and say I'm an ageplayer!!
I am also aware that not everyone uses their furry or child avatars for sexual roleplay so going around asking all that look like furries and children wouldn't be very strategic nor would it go anywhere. When a couple did, in another thread, they were insulted, called paedos and treated like general shit. I am not surprised that they don't want to speak to you.
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Tiger Zobel
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08-09-2006 14:35
From: Damien Skolem Maybe if an ageplayer would come out and say I'm an ageplayer!! Quite a few have... go ask them some questions. Nope... easier to just say you would is some of them came out and said they were ageplayers...  From: someone I am also aware that not everyone uses their furry or child avatars for sexual roleplay so going around asking all that look like furries and children wouldn't be very strategic nor would it go anywhere. Wouldn't it? It's certainly give you an insight into what goes through the mind of a Furry/Ageplayer... Strange how you don't know that, being a Phychiatrist/psychologist |
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Damien Skolem
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08-09-2006 14:36
From: Tiger Zobel Quite a few have... go ask them some questions. Nope... easier to just say you would is some of them came out and said they were ageplayers... Wouldn't it? It's certainly give you an insight into what goes through the mind of a Furry/Ageplayer... Strange how you don't know that, being a Phychiatrist/psychologist Strange how you took it wrong just to throw a rude comment out. I'm not going to spell it out for you since you already have your own skewed meaning set in your mind.
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including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that, under specified circumstances, depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or depicts an image that is or appears to be of a minor engaging in such conduct and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
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Tiger Zobel
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08-09-2006 14:37
From: Damien Skolem Rephrasing the question..
Are furries modelled after animals to the point to where in the perception of the beholder, when having sex with a furry, they think they are having sex with a real life animal such as a dog, a wolf or whatever that furry is modelled after?
I've seen the furries that stand like humans and the ones that look like real animals that walk on all fours, look like real dogs and cats rather than a cartoonish version of animals.
I'd like to know when human chars and furries have sex with furries, what is going through their mind about the physical traits. Do they think they are having sex with an animal more than a cartoon or a cartoon more than an animal?
Do people have sex with the ones that look like real dogs? real cats? Go and sodding ask them... not us. Is it that hard? Is it really that hard to actually ask the ones who engage in that kind of thing what they think as they do it? Either go ask them, or stop making all these stupid claims about them when you don't know what the hell you're talking about. |
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Damien Skolem
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08-09-2006 14:37
From: Tiger Zobel Quite a few have... go ask them some questions. Nope... easier to just say you would is some of them came out and said they were ageplayers... Wouldn't it? It's certainly give you an insight into what goes through the mind of a Furry/Ageplayer... Strange how you don't know that, being a Phychiatrist/psychologist That was another thread correct? I'd examine them in their habitat, not on this forum but in SL.
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including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that, under specified circumstances, depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or depicts an image that is or appears to be of a minor engaging in such conduct and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
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Mondo Kongo
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08-09-2006 14:41
From: Tiger Zobel The point is that you used the pretty standard argument... Furries going with other people dressed as furries, Mechas with others dressed as furries... and so on, to show how none of those were illegal IRL.
No problem there... until you decided to use the argument that Ageplayers IRL pick up kids and have sex with them. That is NOT Ageplay at all... and that is the strawman you created to get your point across.
Your argument should have read:
Furries with people dressed as furries... legal.
Mechas with people dressed as Mechas... legal.
Ageplayers with people DRESSED AS KIDS... LEGAL.
You have constantly equated Ageplay with "wanting to screw a kid" and you have no idea how wrong and insulting you are being to ageplayers.
Use that argument with the other "groups" in SL...
Goreans want to own slaves, including sex slaves...
Furries want to bang animals...
Mechas want to fuck machines...
and so on...
You admit yourself that none of those groups really want to do that in real life, yet INSIST that Ageplayers do!
You've no idea what ageplay is, but it isn't stopping you insisting that they must all be wanting to pick a kid up off the street and bang their brains out...
LEARN what it's about before you judge them... or keep being ignorant about it and be extremely insulting.
The choice is yours... I'm sorry I insulted you, by all means, keep insulting me. Can you say that a potential, or convicted, pedophile wouldnt be attracted to ageplayers in SL? That'd be like throwing a Crack Rock on the ground on 6th street and expecting it to still be there when you get back. If you can say there isn't ONE, SINGLE, pedophile, potential or convicted, enjoying ageplay on SL... you'd have to call yourself naive. If you can say that this activity, IN SL, wouldnt nurture pedophilia among those people that have an existing problem with pedophilia... you have to called yourself naive. And if you think said person with a pedo problem (again, not your average ageplayer) wouldnt escalate the intrigue and desire to experience it in RL... |
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08-09-2006 14:44
From: Kendra Bancroft oh dear god. You are definately not a psycologist. Ditto. Anyone else notice how the pseudo-intellectual hat went on as soon as he was questioned about this? I think RPing a psych major to try and support an extremely closed-minded and weak argument, is fairly creepy behavior. Pardon me please, I have to go report my neighbor to the FBI because he is killing prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto again. It's just a matter of time before we have dead hookers littering the street. That would be bad for my Kool-Aid stand. I need to sell the Kool-Aid. I want to sell the Kool-Aid. People need to drink my Kool-Aid. In case you're wondering it's MORALISASAURUS REX flavor. It's bitter, but you will like it anyway. |
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Lorelei Patel
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08-09-2006 14:44
From: Mondo Kongo And if you think said person with a pedo problem (again, not your average ageplayer) wouldnt escalate the intrigue and desire to experience it in RL... ... yes? Don't leave me hanging! So what if it escalates their intrigue and desire. Intrigue and desire are not prosecutable offenses. Are you openly advocating the prosecution of thought crimes here?
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Tiger Zobel
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08-09-2006 14:45
From: Damien Skolem Strange how you took it wrong just to throw a rude comment out.
I'm not going to spell it out for you since you already have your own skewed meaning set in your mind. You want to know what they think of when they're yiffing away, wondering if maybe they think they're actually screwing a real animal... don't attempt to insult us by claiming otherwise. You decided it wasn't worth actually asking a furry because you might have to ask more than one to find one that yiffs... forgetting that asking any of them would give you an insight into the working of a Furries mind. (pretty important, isn't it... when you're wondering what goes through a furries mind) |
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Lorelei Patel
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08-09-2006 14:47
Good lord, it's not that hard to find any particular kind of player. Looking for a furry who yiffs? Go to a fur sim and click on some people's profiles. Look for groups that sound pertinent. Start IMing.
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Kalia Meiklejohn
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08-09-2006 14:50
From: Sunspot Pixie Ditto.
Anyone else notice how the pseudo-intellectual hat went on as soon as he was questioned about this?
I think RPing a psych major to try and support an extremely closed-minded and weak argument, is fairly creepy behavior.
Pardon me please, I have to go report my neighbor to the FBI because he is killing prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto again. It's just a matter of time before we have dead hookers littering the street. That would be bad for my Kool-Aid stand. I need to sell the Kool-Aid. I want to sell the Kool-Aid. People need to drink my Kool-Aid.
In case you're wondering it's MORALISASAURUS REX flavor. It's bitter, but you will like it anyway. How much for a cup of this Kool-Aid? |
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Tiger Zobel
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08-09-2006 15:01
From: Mondo Kongo I'm sorry I insulted you, by all means, keep insulting me.
Can you say that a potential, or convicted, pedophile wouldnt be attracted to ageplayers in SL? That'd be like throwing a Crack Rock on the ground on 6th street and expecting it to still be there when you get back. Actually yes... I can say that. Mainly because they'll not want to get with an adult, will they? What they WILL do, is try to get onto the teen grid... but ageplaying isn't that, is it? From: someone If you can say there isn't ONE, SINGLE, pedophile, potential or convicted, enjoying ageplay on SL... you'd have to call yourself naive. If you mean enjoying ageplay WITH AN ADULT, there's probably some... but it's not what they're really after, is it? They want actual children, not some crap pixelated image that's just the AV of an ADULT pretending to be a child... From: someone If you can say that this activity, IN SL, wouldnt nurture pedophilia among those people that have an existing problem with pedophilia... you have to called yourself naive. If you can say that getting jiggy with an ADULT PRETENDING TO BE A CHILD is nurturing pedophilia, you're beyond naive and into seriously out of touch with the facts. Is ageplay nurturing pedophiles in RL? If not, then it isn't in SL. If it is, then all those who dress up are obviously nurturing their partners pedophilic desires... From: someone And if you think said person with a pedo problem (again, not your average ageplayer) wouldnt escalate the intrigue and desire to experience it in RL... Woo.. just think... they might want to take it further and meet up with the ADULT WHO WAS PRETENDING WITH A CHILD... Your argument depends on a very unlikely chain of events... so unlikely that it's just not going to happen in the small community extant in SL. On the other hand, the Teen Grid is like a meat market for Pedophiles, so why not get your panties in a bunch over the very real problem of them getting in there? |
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Damien Skolem
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08-09-2006 15:02
From: Sunspot Pixie Ditto.
Anyone else notice how the pseudo-intellectual hat went on as soon as he was questioned about this?
I think RPing a psych major to try and support an extremely closed-minded and weak argument, is fairly creepy behavior.
Pardon me please, I have to go report my neighbor to the FBI because he is killing prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto again. It's just a matter of time before we have dead hookers littering the street. That would be bad for my Kool-Aid stand. I need to sell the Kool-Aid. I want to sell the Kool-Aid. People need to drink my Kool-Aid.
In case you're wondering it's MORALISASAURUS REX flavor. It's bitter, but you will like it anyway. There you go spouting off closed minded like most who cannot grasp that not everyone is going to be tolerant of all behaviors. If you think psychologists are tolerant, out of work all I can do is laugh. If I had a child, a child molester moved in next door or let's say someone who enjoyed having sex with avatar children, would you allow that person to babysit your children? I don't think you liberally tossing out the word closed minded is going to back me into any corners and throw away all common sense.
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Sunspot Pixie
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08-09-2006 15:02
From: Kalia Meiklejohn How much for a cup of this Kool-Aid? One Constitution, one Bill of Rights, and a VHS copy of Footloose. |
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Kalia Meiklejohn
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08-09-2006 15:04
From: Sunspot Pixie One Constitution, one Bill of Rights, and a VHS copy of Footloose. Footlose? How'd you like Dirty Dancing instead? |
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-09-2006 15:04
From: Damien Skolem There you go spouting off closed minded like most who cannot grasp that not everyone is going to be tolerant of all behaviors. If you think psychologists are tolerant, out of work all I can do is laugh. If I had a child, a child molester moved in next door or let's say someone who enjoyed having sex with avatar children, would you allow that person to babysit your children?
I don't think you liberally tossing out the word closed minded is going to back me into any corners and throw away all common sense. The fact that you don't know the difference between ageplay and child molestation is the tip-off. Now stop claiming you are a psychologist. You're busted, pal. Sheeeeesh. They cover this subject in psyche 101. |
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Damien Skolem
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08-09-2006 15:07
They do not cover Second life ageplay in psychology moron which is different than real life ageplay. Now instead of telling you why, I'll ask you. Why is it different? How is it different?
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Mondo Kongo
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08-09-2006 15:12
From: Lorelei Patel ... yes? Don't leave me hanging!
So what if it escalates their intrigue and desire. Intrigue and desire are not prosecutable offenses. Are you openly advocating the prosecution of thought crimes here? Yeah thats what Im doing... Im the thoughts Nazi, hell I must be the Fuhrer in person. Ok, Ms. grey area... I'll spell it out again my position here. People are so upset that Im calling all ageplayers pedophiles and such. Read ALL my posts before you get up in arms please. Lets say you live in an average City Lorelei. (Assuming you are a woman of course) Let's say you are hot! To you walking around in a see through blouse and crotchless panties is acceptable, hell, lets call it another lifestyle. (everybody knows its ok, if you call it a lifestyle right?) Its ok to let the rapists desire you that much more than your average woman. (no, im not comparing ageplayers to rapists, get off it!) I wonder how safe would you feel then... So you still can't see why I'm concerned about the safety of childeren when POSSIBLE POTENTIAL PEDOPHILES Wet-nurse this perversion in the name of ageplay on SL? Its obvious that so many of you lack the foresight to see this. Don't any of you self proclaimed authorities, mass educated geniuses, think about this? Its all good right? If ANY of you advocates have a child molested in your future, SUCK it up if the guy or girl was at one time a potential threat, before becomming a real threat with this kind of simulation in SL. |
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Sunspot Pixie
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08-09-2006 15:12
From: Damien Skolem I don't think you liberally tossing out the word closed minded is going to back me into any corners and throw away all common sense. I don't think you are in the field. Too bad, so sad. There are dozens of indicators. Not the least of which is your failure to indicate as such prior to being asked. Then there's your misspelling of psychological terms, and your broad and uneducated attempts at sounding like an authority. Shall I mention how your style changed after you claimed this? See Damien, there are a handful of people in my family who do work in the field. They have friends who are also in the field, who I have also been exposed to, for most of my life. I have spent a good deal of time interacting and discussing things of this nature with many of them. They approach these topics a LOT differently than you do. It is not their duty to judge and moralise. You are a fraud. You reek of it. You're wasting my Kool-Aid selling time. I need to sell this batch by sundown. You know, before all the paedophiles come out. Have the last word now; it's what people with control issues do. |
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08-09-2006 15:15
From: Damien Skolem Ageplay in an online game isn't really brought up much amongst other psychologists however if you would like for my collegues and I to take a gander into that world and do a psychological examination then provide you with a journal setting real life observations and instances out of the picture, it could happen however, I'm the only psychologist that I'm aware of that plays online games in this nature every once and a while. Great to have you in SL and thank you for your input on the forums  Roseann Flora |
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Tiger Zobel
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08-09-2006 15:16
From: Damien Skolem They do not cover Second life ageplay in psychology moron which is different than real life ageplay. Now instead of telling you why, I'll ask you. Why is it different? How is it different? Traslation: You don't know the difference, so you're going to ask people to tell you. Well... here's my reply... There is no difference. It's just 2 adults roleplaying something, just like in real life. |
