The Chosen Ones Have Been Announced

This whole thing about jealousy and hard work and capitalism and blahblah is just a distraction. It's nothing to do with the simple issue that this is a basically flawed project, if it was ever designed to be any sort of information-gathering or empowerment exercise to do with residents at all, which it's been advertised as. As designed, the project absolutely cannot do what it says on the tin.

And if it's not supposed to be that... what's the point? And why is it geting promoted as such?

You seem to assume that the segment of their customers that you represent is the primary one. For all we know, that segment is minor and eventually will be phased out in favor of some other business focus.

This whole thing about jealousy and hard work and capitalism and blahblah is just a distraction. It's nothing to do with the simple issue that this is a basically flawed project, if it was ever designed to be any sort of information-gathering or empowerment exercise to do with residents at all, which it's been advertised as. As designed, the project absolutely cannot do what it says on the tin.

And if it's not supposed to be that... what's the point? And why is it geting promoted as such?

I hate it when we get to the point where people start picking on other people's work, even to the point of posting pictures and putting down a business. Lewis is in the middle of remodeling his store and introducing a new line.

coco

That IS paying the same amount for the service, Siggy.

The same charges for the same services apply to everyone. You may choose to pay more tier than I do, but I can choose to pay as much tier as you do, if I want to. We all pay the same amounts for the same services.

coco

OK...

I've observed that talent and hard work get you a hell of a lot farther (and a lot more consistantly, and for a longer period of time) than dumping money into a sim and gaming everything as hard as you can to try and make a return on your investment.

Experience: I dropped by the Nerd Emporium to see maybe why you aren't getting the traffic or the attention.



Instead of "I have classifieds, I pay for parcel listings, yet people don't come, because there's no free money giveaways or sex", maybe you should look to the fact that you have a virtually empty store? Seriously, you have ten items scattered around in a huge store with no rhyme or reason to the products, the placement, or why someone should stop there. And honestly the hubris involved in setting a picture of yourself for sale for $L10,000, even as a joke, would kind of turn me off if I was a random customer.

Let's look at someone like Jamie Marlowe, who runs Mischief Designs. That woman CRANKS out product. Same with Six Kennedy. They invest hours upon hours on their craft. No one's going to give you something for nothing, and not to be completely cruel, but after looking at your store, I can't see why anyone would go out of their way to shop there.

No one ever got anywhere by placing blame on everyone and everything else as the reason they don't succeed. Try investing some more time and effort into what you want to do instead of casting about for reasons that the deck is stacked against you.

Well, I've said why I think they're doin' it.

So, um... Quoted for Emphasis.

Linden labs has done this and hand selected 7 of the 8 individuals for specific reasons to help THEM (LINDEN LAB) betere there platform not any of you. if you think that these people were chose to represent any group or groups of people for the sake of said groups of people you are sadly mistake.
Second life views is to get input from people that Linden labs thinks can help THEM (LINDEN LAB) make there business better.

Then what value does the "term" FIC have?
If thier receiving perks isn't putting them ahead, what real difference does it make that they are recieving perks?

Therein lies the problem Coco - your definition of the world and in this case the expression FIC is not doctrine. Fic has many implications and meaning and if you are going to invoke the term then use it wisely. Otherwise, you can expect similar results and treatment.

While you don't see FIC as being an offensive slur, many of us do and you *have* to at least see that. Whether you understand it or not is irrelevant. Wouldn't you call me on my bullshit for calling you a smacktard and then saying "oh its not an insult because to me a smacktard is a kewl person who does kewl things not its normal connotation"?

And I hate it when someone implies that the only reason I could possibly have good biz is by having sex balls, tringo games, camping chairs, or blatant favoritism.

I think Cory has a point - every time I see these threads its always someone elses fault, and the bottom line is it isn't.

There are many many many many examples that totally refute Lewis' 'sex balls gambling and camping chairs' statements.

Receiving perks does put them ahead.

My point is, it is not the residents doing that. It is LL doing that. It is not the residents' fault. I have nothing against any residents put in the position of getting special treatment. As I said before it is flattering, they are deserving, it is beneficial to them, and it is very hard to resist, even if they see some reason TO resist.

It is the process which is wrong. LL is now officially creating an elevated class of special resident, hand-picked, with more power and privileges (and certainly more perks!) than others. It is the government they always promised us we wouldn't have - the kicker is, they elect it, not us.

Receiving perks does put them ahead.

My point is, it is not the residents doing that. It is LL doing that. It is not the residents' fault. I have nothing against any residents put in the position of getting special treatment. As I said before it is flattering, they are deserving, it is beneficial to them, and it is very hard to resist, even if they see some reason TO resist.

It is the process which is wrong. LL is now officially creating an elevated class of special resident, hand-picked, with more power and privileges (and certainly more perks!) than others. It is the government they always promised us we wouldn't have - the kicker is, they elect it, not us.

coco

Then why doesn't everyone have access to the concierge program?

Thats a service - and its only available to folks with a higher land usage.

I am going to quote my self here for all of you who think this is about you or any one else or one particular group or anoter .




ITS NOT ABOUT YOU ME OR THE FUCKING HORSES YOU RODE IN ON ITS ABOUT LINDEN LABS WANTING TO MAKE THERE BUSNESS BETTER!!!!!!!!!

CAN'T ANY OF YOU SEEEEE THIS !!!!!!!!!!

Everyone has equal opportunity to the program.

This whole thing about jealousy and hard work and capitalism and blahblah is just a distraction. It's nothing to do with the simple issue that this is a basically flawed project, if it was ever designed to be any sort of information-gathering or empowerment exercise to do with residents at all, which it's been advertised as. As designed, the project absolutely cannot do what it says on the tin.

And if it's not supposed to be that... what's the point? And why is it geting promoted as such?

Yes dear. That's pretty obvious.

How is it going to make their business better?

Why are they dressing it up as "empowering residents" when it clearly won't? Do they need to hire better PR (or some PR)?[/QUOTE

because they believe that these residents have knowledge insight or opinions that they think can make there business better ?

If you have nothing against residents put in the position of receiving special treatment then why do you continue to start threads and make posts like these intended upon vaguely marginalizing said group of people who may have worked hard to earn their perks, because zOMG its sooooo unfair and Linden Lab is evil evil evil.

It's pretty obvious you have no background in business. And somehow I doubt you could pay Anshe's tier.

No. I have more than once explained that to me, FIC means people who the Lindens give special perks, privileges, and opportunities to. In addition, I would add it means those residents who the Lindens listen to, and include in decision making.

That is NO pejorative on the people they have chosen. It is not their fault. They have a right to feel flattered, as well as deserving. I touched on that earlier.

It is actually unfair to them. They have a right not to be selected for special treatment that other residents don't get, and will resent - and that includes some of their friends. As I said, watch and see how this plays out. It is no favor to the resident to be chosen for special perks, privileges, and opportunities.

It is not, and never has been, on my part, a slur on any individual residents. On some measures, I would qualify as FIC myself. But that is not something I want to be. I don't want special perks, privileges, and opportunities that others don't get. This new advisory committee is the very definition of the words, "feted inner core", right from the literal feting, wining, and dining, on down to the permanent inner core.

"Chosen Ones" - does that have a negative connotation? Yes, it certainly does.

But what are they? They ARE the Chosen Ones. It has a negative connotation because it is a negative thing.

You say:

"It implies that people did not get their success by hard work, but by inside connections, perks, and unfair advantage. So do not fool yourself into thinking you aren't doing the exact same thing."

It implies NO SUCH THING. As I've said time and time again, people receiving this beneficience and attention from LL are doubtless deserving of it. That's beside the point. The point is, so are many others. LL shouldn't be doling it out perks, privileges, and opportunities to a chosen few, however deserving those recipients may be.

coco

Ordinal- While I don't agree with you in this case, I really respect that you're actually trying to represent why you're against this is a rational fashion.

One of the reasons I'm for this is because I suspect that the folks at Linden Lab rarely actually meet ANY of their customers in their own work environment.

Whether or not any solid usable information is gathered, who knows. But I can say, from first hand experience, that it can be strongly motivating and inspiring to meet, face to face, with some of the more intelligent and insightful people that are supported by my own efforts.

If all that comes from this exercise is a renewed sense of purpose and resolve on the behalf of some of the folks at Linden Lab who might otherwise be uninspired or be taking us for granted... I'd say it's certainly worthwhile.

SecondLife can be competitive... I don't see a problem with some people getting rewards that others don't. It gives some an incentive to make a better name for themselves. (and unfortunately gives others incentive to complain about not being picked but I already admitted to being one of those.