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Jig Chippewa
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08-07-2007 09:01
This is boring. Resident Answers is for SL questions - Not the question of existence of God. Please let us not be presumptuous and turn this into a a question of faith etc. It will turn people off from the Forum system.
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Chip Midnight
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08-07-2007 09:08
*shrug* This may be true of those you know, but it isn't me. It's a generalization to be sure, but the point is that the only reason to believe anything is because you think it's correct and competing ideas are wrong. There's nothing at all wrong with that which is why I find all the hand wringing about tolerance rather misguided. People who define themselves by their beliefs tend to become intolerant of dissenting views, which I believe is why such a large percentage of the world's population adrently clings to ideas that haven't progressed much since the bronze age. I don't care much for the way people use the word "belief," as if the label somehow elevates certain ideas above all others, shielding them from criticism. Some days I really miss the off-topic forum. We had some raucous religious debates, didn't we?  Ah, the good ol' days._____________________
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Chris Norse
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08-07-2007 09:18
I disagree. There are plenty of subjects that fall under the same umbrella of Intolerance. If someone posted here claiming Homosexuality was wrong. He'd have met an even more severe backlash. How is Spirituality a less personal choice than Sexuality? If someone came up here and said Gay people cant be parents becuase they will teach Homosexuality to their kids, would we just nod and go "okay" thats fine subject matter for these forums? The anything goes, pure free speach forums NEVER existed. They have always had some basic rules. --------------------------- You'll notice religion there between gender and sexual orientation.. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Intolerance Combating intolerance is a cornerstone of Second Life's Community Standards. Actions that marginalize, belittle, or defame individuals or groups inhibit the satisfying exchange of ideas and diminish the Second Life community as whole. The use of derogatory or demeaning language or images in reference to another Resident's race, ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation is never allowed in Second Life. OFT _____________________
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Allerum Kohime
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08-07-2007 09:21
Well many people have many different views. I can only go by what I've seen done with people's lives and whether or not I think that is the most sensible way to live.
If anything religion teaches morales for which I am grateful. As you can see the difference in peoples lifestyles usually, whether or not they have morales. I will happily stop believing if my religion (Baptist) is 100% proven wrong and false. That has yet to happen. So far I have more belief that it is true than false. If sciences disproves it then I will stop believing. Like for example evolution was not supported by the geological fossil record, so why did people believe it? Lots of scientific theories have problems but thats why they are theorys and not laws. |
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Oryx Tempel
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08-07-2007 09:22
Converting the entire world athiest would be a disaster. What would you say during sex? "Beige. I think I'll paint the ceiling beige." _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
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08-07-2007 09:23
It's a generalization to be sure, but the point is that the only reason to believe anything is because you think it's correct and competing ideas are wrong. There's nothing at all wrong with that which is why I find all the hand wringing about tolerance rather misguided. I dunno... I mean, yes, to a point, I think I'm "right", obviously, or I wouldn't believe what I do, but at the same time, I accept that I have no proof of that whatsoever, so who am I to say that other people are wrong? _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Chip Midnight
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08-07-2007 09:25
I accept that I have no proof of that whatsoever, so who am I to say that other people are wrong? Rare But yes, I completely agree._____________________
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Raynor Hammerer
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08-07-2007 09:29
Rare But yes, I completely agree.The OP, however, doesn't. Hence all the discussion. |
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Cristalle Karami
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08-07-2007 09:30
And yet another thread after this one is locked... Who's the zealot?
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Colette Meiji
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08-07-2007 09:32
The OP, however, doesn't. Hence all the discussion. Thats what I am trying to say too lol. |
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Chip Midnight
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08-07-2007 09:40
I doubt anyone, no matter what they believe, could explicity state their reasons for not believing other competing ideas without potentially offending people who do. That's regardless of whether or not you append your personal beliefs with "*but I might be wrong."
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Carli Dancer
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If you dont haf nothing nice to say ...
08-07-2007 09:46
I doubt anyone, no matter what they believe, could explicity state their reasons for not believing other competing ideas without potentially offending people who do. That's regardless of whether or not you append your personal beliefs with "*but I might be wrong." Thats why Thumper was told to be quiet. Course people can state their beleifs without telling everyone else they are crazy, or going to Hell, or worse- Detroit. |
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Brenda Connolly
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08-07-2007 09:50
Thats why Thumper was told to be quiet. Course people can state their beleifs without telling everyone else they are crazy, or going to Hell, or worse- Detroit. NO! Not Detroit! Even we in Jersey are terrified of Detroit. _____________________
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Chip Midnight
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08-07-2007 09:50
Thats why Thumper was told to be quiet. Course people can state their beleifs without telling everyone else they are crazy, or going to Hell, or worse- Detroit. Yep, that's true. The other option would be for people to be less thin skinned when confronted by honest opinion, and to consider religious ideas to be only what they are - ideas, rather than defining characteristics worthy of great offense when contradicted sans sugar coating. _____________________
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Carli Dancer
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Ill Get you Brenda, and your little dog too!
08-07-2007 09:55
NO! Not Detroit! Even we in Jersey are terrified of Detroit. Yes, Detroit! Its where all the bad people go when their connecting flight gets cancelled. |
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Brenda Connolly
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08-07-2007 09:57
Yes, Detroit! Its where all the bad people go when their connecting flight gets cancelled. In Sunday School they told us unbaptized babies went there too. _____________________
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Ann Launay
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08-07-2007 09:59
Like for example evolution was not supported by the geological fossil record, so why did people believe it? Having a degree in Zoology and some graduate coursework in Anthropology, I sooooo want to say something about this, but... *resists the urge to get sucked into a pointless debate* _____________________
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Oryx Tempel
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08-07-2007 10:01
Having a degree in Zoology and some graduate coursework in Anthropology, I sooooo want to say something about this, but... *resists the urge to get sucked into a pointless debate* Ann... I'm right there with you... geology here...  _____________________
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Michael Bigwig
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08-07-2007 10:04
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Conifer Dada
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08-07-2007 10:08
No religion will get me in SL.
Unless.....I decide to invent my own in-world religion that believes that there is a mythical island somewhere on the grid (but not on the map) that if you visit it you will be cured of lag and be given access to another celestial grid with limitless free land. |
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Conifer Dada
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08-07-2007 10:11
Not that Anyone is an Athiest Oh no? No one can prove or disprove the existence of God (or LL for that matter!!! ) but using my common sense I think the white-bearded old guy on the cloud is a bit unlikely! |
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Raynor Hammerer
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08-07-2007 10:25
Yep, that's true. The other option would be for people to be less thin skinned when confronted by honest opinion, and to consider religious ideas to be only what they are ... What you meant to say is: what YOU THINK they are. Then again, according to the OP, global warming is also just a belief (i.e., an idea in our terminology), so maybe you do have a point here in that rational world of yours ... |
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Sunspot Pixie
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08-07-2007 10:27
Missionaries do NOT "troll", as you put it. Think about it. If you've found a really great restaurant, you'd tell all your friends, all your work colleagues, anyone you knew, that it was great, and how they should visit there because it's so wonderful. People generally are grateful that they've got somewhere else to go to eat now. Now change that to 'religion', whatever one you wish to pick. You have found "the answer" and you want to tell others and hope that they choose to follow that answer for themselves too. It's not just 'doing others a favour', many faiths contain commands of some description to go out and tell others. People may choose to go to that nice restaurant, or stick with the trucker's cafe they've visited for years. Very few people would attack anyone - verbally or physically - for daring to share that there may just be a better alternative to "Greasy Joe's". So quite why people get so abusive when it comes to religion, I really don't know. You still have that exact same choice whether to accept or reject what is presented to you. The simple fact is that religious groups have every right to be in Second Life just as much as anyone else does. Broccoli Gee I dunno, maybe it's because one is a lifetime belief system choice and the other is just dinner. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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08-07-2007 10:30
Gee I dunno, maybe it's because one is a lifetime belief system choice and the other is just dinner. In some places, the missionaries ARE Dinner................ _____________________
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Pinkfeather Heron
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08-07-2007 10:35
Ann... I'm right there with you... geology here... /me raises a hand and joins the party! (I'm a geology major/anthropology minor) *COUGHpunctuatedequilibriumCOUGH* |