Dangerous content: Dolcett.
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Winter Ventura
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07-07-2008 12:26
For those who don't know.. The OP is the self-described Submissive of Earalia Nolan.. one of the head developers at Sensations.. one of the top-of-the-line sex systems in Second Life (a direct competitor to XCite).
Earalia has been responsible for most of the hardcore sensations items in the last year.. hermaphrodite items, demonic items, etc. To have this tripe coming from someone claiming to be her submissive...
That, and the fact that this person hasn't made a post to these forums in two years and all of a sudden, this?
I call BS.
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07-07-2008 12:27
From: Strangel Bade I'm curious as to how one can label an imaginative (and therefore, by definition, not real) exploration of something "dangerous." Thoughts don't kill people, so far as I know.
If Dolcett is banned, what about vampires or other RPG monsters who "hunt" humans within the confines of their game rules? Surely this could be viewed in the exact same light? Because most people don't see the slippery slope behind every little thing that offends them. (=_=)y
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Ai Kikuchiyo
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07-07-2008 12:27
From: Strangel Bade I'm curious as to how one can label an imaginative (and therefore, by definition, not real) exploration of something "dangerous." Thoughts don't kill people, so far as I know.
If Dolcett is banned, what about vampires or other RPG monsters who "hunt" humans within the confines of their game rules? Surely this could be viewed in the exact same light? I'm not talking about RPG monsters. Not even a part of this issue. I only brought up this subject because it is one of the most extreme of the extreme.
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Chris Norse
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07-07-2008 12:28
Maybe some of the bored housewives that the human traffickers are stalking are into it.
Ai, it sounds like you and Rebecca should get together and form a group.
You could call it Progressives Opposed to Online Perverts or POOP. I am sure you both would agree to be Co-POOP Heads.
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Marianne McCann
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07-07-2008 12:28
From: Ai Kikuchiyo I would think so. It's among the most extreme of the extreme in Second Life. Trust me, there's worse, I'm sure. Just when you thought you'd seen it all, someone will surprise you. From: someone Age Playing feeds the fantasies of child molesters and and potential child molesters. Any depiction of children engaged in sexual acts has already been explicitly banned from Second Life. "Age play" is a broad category, including both sexual and nonsexual sides. As to the "feeding the fantasies of potential child molesters, well, can to show your data? So far the only known correlation seems to be about such potentially "normalizing" the behavior . From: Winter Ventura Wait.. you're a submissive of Earalia's and you're here trolling about Dolcett? Ah, is this one of those "I'm okay, but your really strange!" issues? From: Smoke Gordonstone You could try not searching for it and don't go to places that have it. That usually works for me. Ya, but then how could one get their daily RDA of moral outrage? From: Amaranthim Talon Have we talked Cheating and Gor lately? And I really miss the weekly where is my stipend thread- oh and wait!! Gambling! "Is this cheating?" From: Imnotgoing Sideways OMG! Friday already? (O_O) That holiday weekend really throws things off. FWIW, the idea of dolcett really creeps me out. But I dun go to places with it. In fact, the only time I've ever seen or heard of it is in these forums, usually from people busy trying to ban it. Mari
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07-07-2008 12:29
From: Ai Kikuchiyo Dolcett is as bad or worse on the same score. In that it feeds the fantasies of serial killers and potential serial killers. What I'm saying is that Dolcett is on the very same plane as Age Playing. Do we start banning material because it fuels the fantasies of disturbed individuals? Gaaa, I want nothing to do with that slippery slope, tyvm. Even slasher horror has it's place in adult entertainment.
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Chris Norse
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07-07-2008 12:29
From: Ai Kikuchiyo I'm not talking about RPG monsters. Not even a part of this issue. I only brought up this subject because it is one of the most extreme of the extreme. Ai, last summer on the Forums, we did have a person claim to be a RL vampire. It wasn't RP.
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Strangel Bade
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07-07-2008 12:30
From: Ai Kikuchiyo I'm not talking about RPG monsters. Not even a part of this issue. I only brought up this subject because it is one of the most extreme of the extreme. My apologies, then; is it less acceptable if we take out the rules, dice, and fangs? ^^
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Strangel Bade
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07-07-2008 12:32
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Because most people don't see the slippery slope behind every little thing that offends them. (=_=)y I've never liked the slippery slope, myself. Gives me vertigo. 
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Wildefire Walcott
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07-07-2008 12:32
From: Ai Kikuchiyo Artwork portraying such acts get the immediate attention of the real world authorities. As they are usually produced by serial killers or those high risk to become serial killers. Wait, what? Also, I'm pretty sure that Dolcett does count as objectionable material as far as the TOS goes, and could likely be ARed.
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Winter Ventura
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07-07-2008 12:32
Should I also mention that Ai is a member of "Dungeon of Debauchery RPG"? From: Dungeon of Debauchery RPG Come to the Dungeon of Debachery, for our Maidens and Monsters Role play! Here you can act out your roles of predator and prey as you hunt through our adult-play dungeon. Spread over 5 levels filling 100 meters square, the Dungeon Maze includes everything you might need for a night of perverse-prey-play.
This group can be used to ask for current online playmates... A Sensual Stoneworks Production!
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07-07-2008 12:33
From: Ai Kikuchiyo I'm not talking about RPG monsters. Not even a part of this issue. I only brought up this subject because it is one of the most extreme of the extreme. So it's not about some fictional RPG Monsters, but about fictional Cartoons someone drew?  Interesting. Reminds me of "Goru", but more tame.
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07-07-2008 12:33
I saw some RL art lately, it was this guy being tortured on a cross. Really disturbing stuff!
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Ai Kikuchiyo
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07-07-2008 12:33
From: Winter Ventura For those who don't know.. The OP is the self-described Submissive of Earalia Nolan.. one of the head developers at Sensations.. one of the top-of-the-line sex systems in Second Life (a direct competitor to XCite).
Earalia has been responsible for most of the hardcore sensations items in the last year.. hermaphrodite items, demonic items, etc. To have this tripe coming from someone claiming to be her submissive...
That, and the fact that this person hasn't made a post to these forums in two years and all of a sudden, this?
I call BS. Your opinion doesn't count to me. Especially since you aren't privy to what exactly the composition or current status of my relationships within SL are. That's just plain out none of your business. My profile in SL is not something I update very often. I've gone as long as a year without updating it. Because it is really low on my lists of priorities to do in SL. Earalia does things I don't agree with. Serves communities I don't necessarily agree with the existance of. Like Gor. But I am not here to talk about Gor at all.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-07-2008 12:34
From: Winter Ventura Should I also mention that Ai is a member of "Dungeon of Debauchery RPG"? Okay... Now I KNOW you're enjoying this. (^_^)
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Strangel Bade
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07-07-2008 12:35
From: Desmond Shang I saw some RL art lately, it was this guy being tortured on a cross. Really disturbing stuff! You win a whole new internets for that... *cleans coffee off of screen*
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Winter Ventura
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07-07-2008 12:35
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Okay... Now I KNOW you're enjoying this. (^_^) I loathe hypocrisy.. particularly in those who would shutter the freedoms of others.
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Victorria Paine
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07-07-2008 12:38
Be very careful of banning simple artwork. As far as I know, Dolcett is not "banned" in the same way that sexual pictures of children are ubiquitously banned. I find Dolcett to be vile and misogynist, but I don't think those are reasons for it to be completely banned from the grid.
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Marianne McCann
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07-07-2008 12:39
From: Winter Ventura Should I also mention that Ai is a member of "Dungeon of Debauchery RPG"? Dunge-owned!
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Marianne McCann
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07-07-2008 12:40
From: Desmond Shang I saw some RL art lately, it was this guy being tortured on a cross. Really disturbing stuff! I even heard some people eat the flesh an blood of that guy. Creeepy.
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Winter Ventura
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07-07-2008 12:41
From: Ai Kikuchiyo communities I don't necessarily agree with the existance of. Like Gor. But I am not here to talk about Gor at all. If you don't like something.. don't participate. Don't search it out.. DON'T GO THERE... But if you try to smash out of existence everything that you personally do not like.. Who will be there for you, when it's your interests on the chopping block?
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07-07-2008 12:41
From: Winter Ventura Should I also mention that Ai is a member of "Dungeon of Debauchery RPG"? Maybe it's one of those things that the OP is into...but can't come to terms with and messes with her brain or whatever and making this thread is part of the "I will overcome the evil thoughts" therapy?
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Ai Kikuchiyo
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07-07-2008 12:42
From: Marianne McCann Trust me, there's worse, I'm sure. Just when you thought you'd seen it all, someone will surprise you. I've seen a lot of pretty bad things in SL. Shopping is a large part of my SL experience. I tend to run around all over the place looking at things. And there are things that definitely make my gut twist. Dolcett is the first thing I felt that I needed to speak up regarding. because it is so extreme. From: someone "Age play" is a broad category, including both sexual and nonsexual sides. As to the "feeding the fantasies of potential child molesters, well, can to show your data? So far the only known correlation seems to be about such potentially "normalizing" the behavior . It was seen as significant enough of an issue for Linden Labs to violently purge it from Second Life. And anyone engaging in it gets themselves banned from Second Life. It's one of the few instant ban offenses that Linden Labs has.
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Strangel Bade
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07-07-2008 12:45
From: Smoke Gordonstone Maybe it's one of those things that the OP is into...but can't come to terms with and messes with her brain or whatever and making this thread is part of the "I will overcome the evil thoughts" therapy? Compulsion/repulsion reaction. Where lower primates would just poke it with a stick and then run up a tree howling for comfort, we have to examine very closely the things we dislike. Sort of the psychological equivalent of picking at scabs. Sometimes, I think frontal lobe development may have been a mistake. ;P
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Marianne McCann
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07-07-2008 12:47
From: Ai Kikuchiyo It was seen as significant enough of an issue for Linden Labs to violently purge it from Second Life. And anyone engaging in it gets themselves banned from Second Life. It's one of the few instant ban offenses that Linden Labs has. Violently purge? No, they did not take out their guns and start shooting sexual ageplayers. In fact, some of the names most associated (rightly or wrongly) with such are still in world. Some were ARed multiple times, usually by other SL kids. So no, your information on how the GTeam handles issues of Sexual Ageplay is not entirely accurate. Mari
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