Dragons are not welcome here – Where are real ones welcome?
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Damien1 Thorne
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05-27-2008 15:04
From: Amaranthim Talon He he...good luck with that - hmm- possible SL commerce - Virgins R Us...Weren't some required in the Undead Thread for the new Messiah? Maybe we can find a special- twofer the price of one or somehting? Have a special Virggin Half off Night - well - ok,t hey wouldn't be Virgins for along after that - It's a deal! We'll make a killing. We'll be able to retire and start a ranch for ex virgins.
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Allegria Kanto
Trailing clouds of glory
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05-27-2008 15:09
From: Amaranthim Talon He he...good luck with that - hmm- possible SL commerce - Virgins R Us...Weren't some required in the Undead Thread for the new Messiah? Maybe we can find a special- twofer the price of one or somehting? Have a special Virggin Half off Night - well - ok,t hey wouldn't be Virgins for along after that - This sounds fun.. I might be willing to sacrifice a virgin alt or two.. I did have that little bondage fantasy I've never explored. 
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Crunch Underwood
Mr. Grown up, Go away sir
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05-27-2008 15:11
i didn't bother reading the other 9 pages cos i'm sure it's just gonna be what i'm gonna say with alot of banter inbetween
i roleplayed at avilion for some time, there are many many dragons there including a few that are anceints (same as Officers), there are also alot of furs there and i also roleplayed an Ogre. i was always welcomed there (and i still am in my Furry form), so was everyone else. there are rules and without them the place would not work well as a roleplay area.
so if you don't like it just leave, stop causing trouble for someone as busy as malakh and go somewhere else
-Crunch
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Amy Faddoul
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05-27-2008 15:17
Dragon, personally, I would have tossed you out on your ear. Screw your rights. You have no rights, your on private property. don't like it go. Leave, don't let the tp cut off your tail on your way out. As for your own sim. doubtfull. You'll likely get banned for the ToS violations in this thread long before you get an island, though I would just lose my mind laughing if they took your money first then gave you the boot. enjoy.
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Amaranthim Talon
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05-27-2008 15:19
From: Dagmar Heideman Wow seven pages and I still managed to get InBeforeTheLock! And now for something completely different: "The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon; the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true." Can you name the movie and the actor?  Oh please! Danny Kaye! The 'Court Jester- someone proly said it already -I did not Google! On of my faves- right up there with the Inspector General -
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Tengu Yamabushi
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05-27-2008 15:19
From: Czari Zenovka Really? This past week a group I am in did an experiment in avatar-prejudice. (Something that seems to be right up your alley *smiles*). We each wore avatars much different than our norm. I opted to go Furry as I had NO former contact with or much knowledge of the Fur community. I went to Luskwood several times to look for then eventually purchase my AV. A lot of people were standing around chatting but didn't acknowledge me. Ok...no biggie. I really wasn't looking for conversation, but would have engaged in such if offered. My partner and I returned yet another time to walk around Luskwood so I could start to feel comfortable in the avatar. Once again surrounded by lots of people at the tp in area. We stood there quite awhile so I could see the various types of avatars and how people modded them. I commented to my partner that no one had said anything to me/us all the times we were there. My partner was a furry when he first began in SL and said, "Luskwood tends to be a bit cliquish." One man's perception isn't necessarily universal...either way.  Did you bother to say "Hi"?  We get lots of folks 'just passing through' (sometimes numbering in the hundreds daily - no, really  ) - often, it just wouldn't be practical to meet-and-greet every new arrival. Even so, if not afk or otherwise engaged many regulars will, in fact, wave to new arrivals and say "Hello", or offer some other form of welcome... but quite often folks are caught up in an ongoing discussion, tied up in IM, multitasking, or doing other non-obvious activities that may make them seem aloof. However, I can guarantee that folks aren't going out of their way to be alienating (and if anyone _has_ done such, please let us know about it). On the other hand, we _have_ had, on multiple occasions, folks come in (sometimes in large groups) with chips on their shoulders and the sole intent of 'proving the point' that Luskwood isn't as friendly as its reputation would have it. I won't go into the various strategies employed by these groups, but the bottom line is that we aren't going to become 'artificial gladhanders', or shift into allocating any resources towards putting anyone in an 'official greeter' role in an attempt to 'manage our image' - folks in Luskwood are generally friendly, and try to treat folks in the spirit with which they introduce themselves... and we'll keep on being 'just ourselves' - typically open and friendly ... as long as the folks visiting are considerate, and treat others with respect. Try saying "Hi" next time, and see what happens  .
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Amaranthim Talon
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05-27-2008 15:24
From: Trout IV: I like blue. Bring me something blue. Will Madhu do?
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FD Spark
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05-27-2008 15:24
I have heard occasionally that the Dragons got it hard especially the real ones they got to compete with the wannabee Dragons in freebie green suits and anti-Dragon believes from others. I don't know I think it is time for the Dragons to start there own Dragon-centric movement and have a Dragon only community and eat the trespassers and any other offenders. That will show those fake Dragons and Dragon haters! Dragons Revolt, take the power back from the man! Please just don't roast and eat this tiny elf if you run into me. By the way what makes a real Dragon versus fake one I often been curious about this?
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Brenda Connolly
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05-27-2008 15:26
From: Amaranthim Talon Oh please! Danny Kaye! The 'Court Jester- someone proly said it already -I did not Google! On of my faves- right up there with the Inspector General - Got in there ahead of you. I adored Danny Kaye as a child. I still watch Hans Christian Anderson as part of my Thanksgiving Film festival at home, along with Mighty Joe Young and Jason and The Argonauts. *The originals*
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Trout Recreant
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05-27-2008 15:27
From: Nic Writer But Trout... I thought you said you were no good at role play...
As far as the OP, I do see a serious lack of respect here. If you want to go play in someone's sim, it's only polite to conform to their dress code. They didn't ask you to leave or say you were unwelcome, only asked you to change your attire. Sheesh. I played an old grandpa Jewish dragon looking for a place with shuffleboard and an early-dragon special to retire. A good deli was a must. I complained about the crosswinds at the Avilion airport (that doesn't exist - I checked). Isn't it obvious how bad at RP'ing I am? Those poor people. I'm so greatful that they put up with my nonsense. I hope I didn't ruin it for them. Wait until tonight: "I am Trout Recreant, son of Jebediah Recreant, first purser to Magwad Spoonbaby, Dictator for Life (until the next junta) of The Northern State of Dragonfornia, and I am here to establish diplomatic relations with your nationstate. Kindly direct me to your leader...and the little dragon's room. It was a long flight."
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Amaranthim Talon
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05-27-2008 15:29
From: Damien1 Thorne It's a deal! We'll make a killing. We'll be able to retire and start a ranch for ex virgins. Hmm.. Ex-Virgin Ranch... I think they have one in Vegas.... http://www.chickenranchbrothel.com/index.php
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Trout Recreant
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05-27-2008 15:29
From: Amaranthim Talon Will Madhu do? I didn't know she was available for gifting, but good Lord, yes! She's a stone cold hottie.
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Amaranthim Talon
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05-27-2008 15:31
From: Allegria Kanto This sounds fun.. I might be willing to sacrifice a virgin alt or two.. I did have that little bondage fantasy I've never explored.  Did yo want to be the tier or the tiee? If you are interested in tying i "have a friend just dyin' to meetcha" (cue Rolling Stones music)....
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Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
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05-27-2008 15:32
From: Tengu Yamabushi Did you bother to say "Hi"?  We got lots of folks 'just passing through' (sometimes numbering in the hundreds daily - no, really  ) - often, it just wouldn't be practical to meet-and-greet every new arrival. Even so, if not afk or otherwise engaged many regulars will, in fact, wave to new arrivals and say "Hello", or offer some other form of welcome... but quite often folks are caught up in an ongoing discussion, tied up in IM, multitasking, or doing other non-obvious activities that may make them seem aloof. However, I can guarantee that folks aren't going out of their way to be alienating (and if anyone _has_ done such, please let us know about it). On the other hand, we _have_ had, on multiple occasions, folks come in (sometimes in large groups) with chips on their shoulders and the sole intent of 'proving the point' that Luskwood isn't as friendly as its reputation would have it. I won't go into the various strategies employed by these groups, but the bottom line is that we aren't going to become 'artificial gladhanders', or shift into allocating any resources towards putting anyone in an 'official greeter' role in an attempt to 'manage our image' - folks in Luskwood are generally friendly, and try to treat folks in the spirit with which they introduce themselves... and we'll keep on being 'just ourselves' - typically open and friendly ... as long as the folks visiting are considerate, and treat others with respect. Try saying "Hi" next time, and see what happens  . Good point, Tengu and is why I deleted my post. I realized it wasn't totally applicable. The main point I was trying to make to the OP was that he felt one sim was being unfriendly toward him and used furry sims as an example of openness and friendliness. I was trying to show him that we all have different experiences. For example, I have good friends in a Gorean sim and hang out there on occasion. Anyone who comes within speaking distance is politely greeted. Other people think Goreans are all oddballs and I believe the OP stated Goreans are "Fur haters." I actually wore my furry AV in this Gorean sim this past week and was welcomed as usual. As I said in my deleted post, we didn't initiate conversation in Luskwood so didn't really expect any. But next time I drop in, will be sure to say hi. 
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Yumi Murakami
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05-27-2008 15:34
I don't know which is funnier here, the discussion or the image of a dragon wearing pants.
On the other hand I do think that, as SL becomes more consolidated, some kind of rule may have to be made on this sort of thing to prevent far too many "traps" for consumers being created.
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Amaranthim Talon
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05-27-2008 15:38
FD...I love you  Brenda yup saw it after I posted Czari - not long ago the Roadside Philosophers had a topic regarding inhuman avatars. I dressed an alt as a Solar System and went bebopping around SL. I went into a furry bar and was ignored... I went into Sweethearts and was politely asked to leave- they thought I was causing lag... I went to Orientation Island Public and everyone assumed I was a guy - not sure why - I went to the Hangout and everyone there was cool and greeted me and talked to me and answered questions I posed as (semi) required by my research - you guys may rememeber On Donner  . Thanks for the input- I romise I never- ever- do that- anyone I know who encounters me in an alt I tell them who I am- I had to for that experiment though- and On Donner does not get out any more.
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Damien1 Thorne
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05-27-2008 15:41
From: Amaranthim Talon and On Donner does not get out any more. How about On Blitzen or On Comet or On Dasher?
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Malakh Giles
Avilion Co-Owner
Join date: 27 Nov 2005
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05-27-2008 15:41
For what it is worth, should anyone like to see what he was wearing when the OP was remove from the sim, feel free to IM me. I don't think dragons would have worn fetish wear with a cod piece now would you?
The sim is a private estate, if you don't want to be there, then you can leave.
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Michi Lumin
Sharp and Pointy
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05-27-2008 15:41
From: Tengu Yamabushi Did you bother to say "Hi"?  ] From: Tengu Yamabushi On the other hand, we _have_ had, on multiple occasions, folks come in (sometimes in large groups) with chips on their shoulders and the sole intent of 'proving the point' that Luskwood isn't as friendly as its reputation would have it.
I find it interesting that this is the most "dirt" anyone can find on us. I've managed (and at the same time lived in) Luskwood for the last 4.5 years... I have seen, do see, and KNOW that we are, generally, as a group, VERY willing to talk to, converse with, or show around ANYONE who's friendly. This notwithstanding: Often we will see "lurkers" who appear, sit, don't say a word, and - yes - often, folks on the Luskwood platform are VERY involved in an existing conversation... As would happen with any group, sometimes you have to break in, speak up, state your interest, you know, "break the ice" and get into the existing conversation. It's -so- easy for people to create these "experiments" that may indeed turn out the way they're hoping. If I show up to anywhere on SL, and stand there not saying a word, that "experiment" would prove almost every time that the chances of folks sweeping you up into a meaningful session of conversational integration with almost no effort on your part are highly, highly unlikely. This goes for any workplace, social, or other group situation where you're determined to be a "flower on the wall". Honestly, the amount of times the words "Hi (name), welcome to Luskwood" are uttered in our area can be counted in "occurances per hour". I see it all the time. Often, the person greeted simply doesn't respond. Generally if people want to be drawn into conversation, they'll speak up. If they want to be left alone, they'll park themselves in a corner, away from the crowd, and not say a word. Unfortunately, the conversation of the moment may not be something you're interested in, or can add to. That adds another layer of difficulty, but certainly isn't something that's unique to Luskwood, or to any other place in SecondLife. For years, a small contingency has been trying to paint us with the "we don't like anyone but furries" brush. It's a ridiculous assertion. If we wanted to be reclusive, we've had many opportunities to do so. I know what our intentions are, and what our philosophies are. Folks can state that they are otherwise as much as they want, until they're blue in the face, but that doesn't make them any more true. We've got no agenda to exclude anyone except folks who are intent on causing a problem.(Please note that showing up to "test the limits" on "what a problem is" falls into the category of causing a problem.) It doesn't benefit us in any way whatsoever to intentionally exclude people. And 50 or so regulars plus 10 or so administrators doing it "for kicks" over the last 4-5 years doesn't really hold water, either. I'll say this though: If you're looking to 'test' a hypothesis that you either already believe is true, or are for some reason hoping to prove, chances are your actions will lend themselves to bearing that out. On the other hand, if you actually genuinely wanted to get to know people, I know for a fact that few people in Luskwood would have any problem with that whatsoever - and many who would welcome it.
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3Ring Binder
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05-27-2008 15:42
From: Malakh Giles For what it is worth, should anyone like to see what he was wearing when the OP was remove from the sim, feel free to IM me. I don't think dragons would have worn fetish wear with a cod piece now would you? The sim is a private estate, if you don't want to be there, then you can leave. i want to see. and ^5
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Dakota Tebaldi
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05-27-2008 15:44
From: Malakh Giles For what it is worth, should anyone like to see what he was wearing when the OP was remove from the sim, feel free to IM me. I don't think dragons would have worn fetish wear with a cod piece now would you? The sim is a private estate, if you don't want to be there, then you can leave. OWNED
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Kokoro Fasching
Pixie Dust and Sugar
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05-27-2008 15:51
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Trout Recreant
Public Enemy No. 1
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05-27-2008 15:52
From: Malakh Giles For what it is worth, should anyone like to see what he was wearing when the OP was remove from the sim, feel free to IM me. I don't think dragons would have worn fetish wear with a cod piece now would you?
The sim is a private estate, if you don't want to be there, then you can leave. Yes please. And while we're here, I am the special emissary of Carteladragononia, sent to inquire as to a tariff free trading arrangement between your delicious...I mean industrious and kind citizens (especially the fat ones) and our...uhmmm..."vegetarian" dragon-state.... Oh, never mind. I'd like to see the picture, though. I never doubted you and Avilion is beautiful. I just want to get a laugh at how he was dressed.
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FD Spark
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05-27-2008 15:54
From: Amaranthim Talon FD...I love you  AWW Thanks who is Donner? Personally I don't care what the avatar pixels look like though interesting designs are very cool to look at....what matters is the words and behavior coming from the real persons keyboard to me. One would think a real Dragon would have horde of Gold and be able to have their own sim or several though. And they hire me and pay me a whole for sign saying Trespassers will be Eaten. I promise it will be very cool sign. LOL
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Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
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05-27-2008 15:54
From: Michi Lumin I find it interesting that this is the most "dirt" anyone can find on us. I've managed (and at the same time lived in) Luskwood for the last 4.5 years... I have seen, do see, and KNOW that we are, generally, as a group, VERY willing to talk to, converse with, or show around ANYONE who's friendly.
This notwithstanding: Often we will see "lurkers" who appear, sit, don't say a word, and - yes - often, folks on the Luskwood platform are VERY involved in an existing conversation... As would happen with any group, sometimes you have to break in, speak up, state your interest, you know, "break the ice" and get into the existing conversation.
It's -so- easy for people to create these "experiments" that may indeed turn out the way they're hoping. If I show up to anywhere on SL, and stand there not saying a word, that "experiment" would prove almost every time that the chances of folks sweeping you up into a meaningful session of conversational integration with almost no effort on your part are highly, highly unlikely.
This goes for any workplace, social, or other group situation where you're determined to be a "flower on the wall".
Honestly, the amount of times the words "Hi (name), welcome to Luskwood" are uttered in our area can be counted in "occurances per hour". I see it all the time. Often, the person greeted simply doesn't respond.
Generally if people want to be drawn into conversation, they'll speak up. If they want to be left alone, they'll park themselves in a corner, away from the crowd, and not say a word.
Unfortunately, the conversation of the moment may not be something you're interested in, or can add to. That adds another layer of difficulty, but certainly isn't something that's unique to Luskwood, or to any other place in SecondLife.
For years, a small contingency has been trying to paint us with the "we don't like anyone but furries" brush. It's a ridiculous assertion. If we wanted to be reclusive, we've had many opportunities to do so.
I know what our intentions are, and what our philosophies are. Folks can state that they are otherwise as much as they want, until they're blue in the face, but that doesn't make them any more true. We've got no agenda to exclude anyone except folks who are intent on causing a problem.(Please note that showing up to "test the limits" on "what a problem is" falls into the category of causing a problem.)
It doesn't benefit us in any way whatsoever to intentionally exclude people. And 50 or so regulars plus 10 or so administrators doing it "for kicks" over the last 4-5 years doesn't really hold water, either.
I'll say this though: If you're looking to 'test' a hypothesis that you either already believe is true, or are for some reason hoping to prove, chances are your actions will lend themselves to bearing that out.
On the other hand, if you actually genuinely wanted to get to know people, I know for a fact that few people in Luskwood would have any problem with that whatsoever - and many who would welcome it. Sheesh, Michi, chill out please  I took the post down because I realized it wasn't applicable. Tengu quoted it before I was able to delete it. I wasn't trying to dig up dirt on Luskwood at all. As I've stated....being part of the Gorean community I've had my fair share of prejudices and untruths leveled at me/my friends/the group. The experiment was something that a group I'm in runs once a year to "walk in another's shoes" to see how it feels and also how we feel in those shoes. Some people chose another race, some child AVs, others overweight AVs, a couple women wore burkas. I chose furry because it was a group I had no knowledge of and was pleasantly surprised how I was treated. I wasn't trying to "test" Luskwood in any way. However after your post...I'm honestly not real keen to return.
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