Sex in Secondlife

Well in a perfect world, I'd like to tie you up and gag you. Though it's not, so you can express your opinion all you like and I can reply in kind.

Do me a favor... crawl back under your rock.

I don't do cybersex, but I imagine that it's like dancing in SL. You can hop on two poseballs (or more) and talk about your day at work or you can add emotes about pressing together, kissing, running your hands on your partner's back and so on.

It can be romantic or sexy or just animated poses to watch.

As far as the PG-ness of this thread, it seems PG to me. No one has said anything graphic or offensive.

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The cartoon animations of SL sex are goofy at best, the connection and arousal comes from the verbal/textual interaction between the parties concerned. In RP I often am in "Adult" situations, and there is very little wanking involved, I am usually too busy trying to keep a literate story going. Sometimes the animations never even keep pace with what is going on in the story.

While I don't engage in personal romantic relationships in SL anymore, I have in the past. And yes, they got physical at times, and admittedly sometimes simultaneously in real time. But a lot of times not. However, what transpired was often the basis for RL personal fantasy time, and sometmes even inspiration when being with a RL partner. SL has been a great testing ground for widening some of my sexual and emotional boundries.

In the end, like most things SL, it's a highly personal choice, no one way is the right/wrong approach. My advice is to enjoy SL however you wish, and not worry about how someone else does. Don't bother me, and I won't bother you.

"Don't knock masturbation — it's sex with someone I love."
Woody Allen

Got news for you honey; girls like sex too. Not all human sexuality and reproduction is forced...

I read a study once that claimed that roughly 30% of all people, speaking globally, do -NOT- have the genetic father their mother's claim they do.

It was a minor factoid on a report tracing DNA to find human migration patterns and to de-mythify ethnic/racial constructs. meaning they noted the statistic in the DNA records that had been gathered around the world, but then didn't explain it...

When I mention that to my own mother, who's an 'old guard all men are predators' feminist, she first claims it must be false, and then claims the rest is rape... but seriously... I don't think so (what's really funny here is that she's a lesbian - her sex life has had nothing to do with men since a year after the last of my siblings was born, but it didn't end there either... and yet she still clings to that view).

And the younger generation of feminists that embrace their sexuality openly is proving that even among women not chained to a bed, they still manage to find where the thing is. :gasp:

Sorry, bit of a pet peeve of mine anytime somebody blames horniness on their gender.


To try a lame attempt and tying this back to SL; a couple of sex clubs I hang out at are women only, have decent activity - both in terms of crowds and people using the beds and poseballs, and I seriously doubt they're all men on female AVs.

I wasn't interested in the sexual aspects of SL when I had joined, I had tried that previously in text social sites and got bored of it after a few months. When I did get a 'girlfriend' in second life all she wanted to do was get naked and cuddle up to me, without even wanting to chat, and I was there thinking, 'I could be making a chair, or a spaceship or maybe I should move the trees on my land to the left a bit' so that relationship didn't last long.

My present partner only became my partner after we meet in real life and I still don't fancy doing cartoon sex here today.

This is pretty much what I was going to say. The pixels are the tip of the iceberg, and when the story gets good, who's even looking at them? It's just something to keep the avatars occupied while the two people really involved interact.

Because it's collaborative, I don't think of it as masturbation, figuratively speaking. There aren't a lot of surprises in masturbation, and the lion's share of the pleasure in SL "sex" is the surprise of the unexpected ideas the other person brings to the table. Or the sofa, the back seat, the rubber ducky shaped air mattress...

What if someone is following Cato around getting themselves off without his knowledge? What about that? Huh? Huh??

Whoever did that should be ARd, reported to the authorities in real life and sectioned.

Now that would really be an 'out there kink', wouldn't it?

I think it's a lot wider spectrum than those two choices.

The grid is rife with symbolism ~ in fact, that's arguably what everything is. Just props that represent ideas; even the interactions are symbols or metaphors. There are very few things completely detached from representing something real.

Because of that, when pixels collide, the motivations and the symbolism can fall into a fairly wide range. Sort of like sex in real life between any two individuals, for that matter. It could be an expression of love, or of dominance and power, or just an inconsequential box to tick off ~ "yeah, I've done that, it was cool now let's go get a snack."

Sex can be plenty inconvenient in first life especially if it's spontaneous. Having to navigate a 3d world and type one handed at the same time... well, sure it can be done, just like sex on the freeway is technically physically possible. Though I doubt either are anyone's first choice for comfort.

The virtual backrubs and slowdances are probably more effective mental stimulants than virtual sex. Recreating sex acts on the grid has shades of Popeye and Olive Oyl toons going at it on some level, no? Gigglefit time.

In spite of the great mental visual, Jig, I doubt everyone is blessed with 'normal' levels of sexuality. If I recall the Kinsey report properly the nonsexual people out there are legion. Easily several hundred thousand in North America alone. People who actively dislike sexual or even sensual contact for a wide variety of reasons. Medical conditions, physiology, just born that way, psychological trauma such as child abuse, that sort of thing. It's quite a minefield for the unsuspecting, normally sexual person because our society forces all that stuff in the closet even more than sexual preference. By the time you find out a partner *simply doesn't want* that side of life, it becomes a choice between love and personal fulfillment. A tough, not funny choice.

I once had a female friend many years ago (not on the internet) that was a victim of severe child abuse and sexuality would never, ever be something pleasant for her ~ that side of life was taken away *completely*. From that experience I really do believe there is such a thing as damaged people, and I would daresay a lot of them are online and on the grid. Some far more damaged than others. It's a deeply scary thing; something the movie "Downloading Nancy" touches upon in an even scarier way, and reason for great caution on the internet.

The reason I bring that up, is that this is the only true reason I can see for PG, M, and other ratings on the grid. PG, as ridiculous as it may seem to many of us, as unnecessary as I see it even for a business environment, still might be a relative safe zone for those that need it for their own well being.

Some people really do need to have the option of assuredly innocent sunshine and roses, as best as can possibly be done.

I so want to see that movie Des.


I would like to point out that some people simply want a "PG" second life. Nothing to do with their mental well being,just simply do not want XXX in their faces all the time.

It depends if they got anything on him or not.

I think this sums it up perfectly.

Having heard of it, and knowing some 'real life' background of a few people on the grid here, I *never* want to see that movie. Just knowing it exists is bad enough.

The only redeeming thing about it is that it might open up some eyes to the fact that there are some really, really scary people and some really damaged ones out there.

I find movies like that fascinating and a must see personally.

Sadly though,the people who do need to open their eyes will probably not be the audience for such a movie,IMO.

Yep. Really, this is the only reason I (very very tentatively, and with lots of reservations about its implementation) support the new classification scheme.

Awww..don't say that.

You'll ruin the high some of these forums mod wannabes get when they stick their noses in other peoples posts by telling them what they can or can't do here.

I guess I have to answer that I do it in a sharing consensual way in SL. My character (and RL self) loves sex (that doesn't mean with everyone!). I'm certainly not a prude. I enjoy hearing the sensual voice of the man I'm with or reading his erotic writing when we're together. Do I get off on it? You bet your ass I do & so does he! It keeps me coming back for more.

Even those of us that aren't strictly PG necessarily like it in the face all he time

I agree 100% brenda...

Sooo, five minutes back and we have another Jig classic all about sex, what a surprise

No, not just about that. There are quite a few other examples of other subject areas that have a ranging spectrum from "PG" to "Adult" (these monikers are very bad for describing this concept however).

*) Violence
*) Politics
*) Religion
*) Psychology
*) Health
*) Economy
*) Human Rights

There are far more than these that can have adult themes.

LL is starting with sex with a side dish of violence it seems. I doubt it will stop there. I cannot see that anyone who searches PG space in the not so distant future will get anything that, for instance, is overtly extremist political agenda themed.

This is why segregating content like this is guaranteed to lead to censorship. There will be too many spectrums to decide where the line between the 3 categories is drawn with not enough oversight and at the end of it all, deciding is 100% subjective to what your views and cultural values are and so it will be LL's views and cultural values that get pushed on to others. It would be impossible to do anything else once you start down this road. You simply cannot segregate and respect where everyone's values fall.

Best SL sex I ever had happened entirely on Craig Altman's Dance 4.

So yeah, a nod in agreement to everyone else who has said things about the good stuff all residing in the IM box. Much of the time animations just help set the mood in the same way candle light might.

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Although I'd also suggest that it is possible to convey quite a lot by the way one selects animations and combines them and uses them with taste and sensitivity and timing; more so than is always achievable with many of the usual prepackaged multi-animation devices. And perhaps more so than what is conveyed by individual animations, as compelling as some of them may be. I think it can be a worthwhile and rewarding experience for connoisseurs of virtual erotic expression to pick up a device such as MLPv2 and take the time to learn it, then go shopping for animations (from multiple makers) that are not only appealing in and of themselves but can combine to tell stories you'd like to share with your partner. Doing something like this makes the use of animations a personal expression from and about you, which (depending on your tastes and the type of relationship you have with your partner) can make for a richer and more gratifying experience.

LOL poseball boy recommends buying lots of animations, imagine that. Naw, just saying it can be fun and rewarding if you want to put out the effort.