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Nina Stepford
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07-26-2007 11:26
look you worm, i dont give two shits about gambling. what annoys me is this seppo 'fuck you' attitude and this bullshit about how wonderful the usa is and how everybody MUST be jealous. if you believe that youve obviously never ventured outside your continent.
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07-26-2007 11:27
stereotypes come about as a general consensus holds out. year after year after year. That would explain the attitudes throughout Europe leading up to the Holocaust. You're trying to point out the dog poop in our yard when there is a huge pile of elephant poop in your's. _____________________
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Raymond Figtree
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07-26-2007 11:27
look you worm, i dont give two shits about gambling. what annoys me is this seppo 'fuck you' attitude and this bullshit about how wonderful the usa is and how everybody MUST be jealous. if you believe that youve obviously never ventured outside your continent. ![]() _____________________
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Dagmar Heideman
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07-26-2007 11:28
Pretty simple See someone with gambling stuff out- tell him to remove it or you delete it, But since its amnesty - no further punishment is meted out. You missed the point of my prior post. There is no grounds for telling someone to remove or delete gambling stuff under the wagering policy. They can have it. They just can't use it. It is the ACT of gambling that is prohibited not mere ownership of gambling machines or having them out. You can't provide amnesty from punishment when there is no punishable act occuring. |
RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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07-26-2007 11:30
Looks like this thread is about to "splode" and get locked. ![]() It was only a matter of time. Already we've got the Holocaust mentioned, I'm just waiting for someone to invoke Godwin's Law. . _____________________
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Chip Midnight
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07-26-2007 11:31
look you worm, i dont give two shits about gambling. what annoys me is this seppo 'fuck you' attitude and this bullshit about how wonderful the usa is and how everybody MUST be jealous. if you believe that youve obviously never ventured outside your continent. They start feeding kids the koolaid in kindergarten and it continues through highschool and sometimes beyond. By the time people become adults they've had the supposed superiority of all things USA drilled into their heads so much that most people believe it unquestioningly... and they have an incentive to believe it because it appeals to people's innate tribalistic tendencies. It's a lot like a religion in that it makes people very intolerant of dissenting points of view. The US certainly isn't the only country polluted by that kind of unthinking nationalism though. It's pretty common throughout the world, and most countries have their favorite bad guy too. _____________________
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Guido Columbia
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07-26-2007 11:31
It was only a matter of time. Already we've got the Holocaust mentioned, I'm just waiting for someone to invoke Godwin's Law. IBTL! You know, this all sounds just like something Hitler would do... Thread done? |
Nina Stepford
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07-26-2007 11:32
im in australia mate. why do you keep crapping on about europe? maybe i should start blaming you for the murder of tsar nicholas??
That would explain the attitudes throughout Europe leading up to the Holocaust. You're trying to point out the dog poop in our yard when there is a huge pile of elephant poop in your's. |
Colette Meiji
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07-26-2007 11:33
You missed the point of my prior post. There is no grounds for telling someone to remove or delete gambling stuff under the wagering policy. They can have it. They just can't use it. It is the ACT of gambling that is prohibited not mere ownership of gambling machines or having them out. You can't provide amnesty from punishment when there is no punishable act occuring. I think the ban is farther reaching than that. I do not think you are even allowed to provide the means to gamble on your property. |
SqueezeOne Pow
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07-26-2007 11:34
look you worm, i dont give two shits about gambling. what annoys me is this seppo 'fuck you' attitude and this bullshit about how wonderful the usa is and how everybody MUST be jealous. if you believe that youve obviously never ventured outside your continent. "Hey, Pot, you're black!" -the kettle Sorry, lady, I am a little more than bilingual (portuguese, english, a little spanish and currently learning japanese), have traveled farther outside of my country than many Europeans do and have no illusions about the shape of my country. I also have no illusions about the shape of your continent. Your country is not the shining beacon of prosperity and peace that you claim to be through your attacks on my country. I say again: Get over yourself. I'm just glad that I know enough foreigners to know that your shitty attitude isn't that of the average European. If a law in Europe affected the game I played I would deal with it or find another game. Curb your addiction. You can do it. We'll get through this together! _____________________
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Raymond Figtree
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07-26-2007 11:35
I think the ban is farther reaching than that. I do not think your even allowed to provide the means to gamble on your property. _____________________
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SqueezeOne Pow
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07-26-2007 11:36
im in australia mate. why do you keep crapping on about europe? maybe i should start blaming you for the murder of tsar nicholas?? Heh...another country brought to you by colonization...you have even less of a leg to stand on. _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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07-26-2007 11:36
Does that mean I have to delete my fuzzy dice? if they are scripted to take wagers and make a payout if you win, then yes. |
Cocoanut Koala
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07-26-2007 11:36
get over _myself_? let me assure you americans do not have the reputation for being loud and arrogant for no reason. you are a prime example matey. Good heavens to Mergatroid. This is no way to interact with the world and foster good relationships, is it? People are people everywhere, and the more sophisticated world citizen knows that. coco _____________________
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Vegas Vuckovic
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07-26-2007 11:37
I agree with most of what you said except the above, so apologies for not catching the sarcasm. If they moved to another country they'd still be violating US law and would be subject to arrest if they so much as stepped foot in a US airport. The law is ridiculous, overreaching, and absurd, but LL didn't make the law, and it's quite surprising that they even tried to work around it as long as they did. It sucks that they're banning it all outright, but what else can they do? This pisses me off too, but not at LL. It's just another example of religious moralism being codified into law at the expense of freedom and in violation of the intent of the Constitution... but that's pretty much par for the course these days. The only hope for laws like this being overturned is for people to start voting Libertarian en masse. ![]() Chip I agree, but there's also hope in this country for getting our freedoms restored please read on.... Found on the front page of the Columbus Dispatch (Columbus, Ohio). While I may be able to go down to the local store and gamble on lottery, or go online and gamble on horse racing, or go one state over and gamble at a casino. It's still illegal for me to transfer money online and gamble in the comfort of my own home, but I can........ "Virtual" Child Porn is legal as ruled by the Ohio State Supreme Court yesterday! I'm disgusted to be a US Citizen and have been for quite awhile now. Many people died so I could have certain rights and freedoms, but the US Government has steadily found a way to erode those rights. But things that should be illegal somehow find a way to be legal because the politicians don't really care and can't make any tax revenue from it so they say who cares and allow something like this. Disgusting! |
Cheyenne Marquez
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07-26-2007 11:37
your blind nationalism is unbecoming, and a major reason so much of the world find americans distasteful. You want to see distasteful? Get a hold of these gems ... look you worm, i dont give two shits about gambling. what annoys me is this seppo 'fuck you' attitude and this bullshit about how wonderful the usa is and how everybody MUST be jealous. if you believe that youve obviously never ventured outside your continent. get over _myself_? let me assure you americans do not have the reputation for being loud and arrogant for no reason. you are a prime example matey. i would have thought that would have occurred to you, but instead you choose to aggravate the situation by spouting ignorant redneck rhetoric. You must be an undercover American. |
Reitsuki Kojima
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07-26-2007 11:38
"Virtual" Child Porn is legal as ruled by the Ohio State Supreme Court yesterday! Too bad its a meaningless ruling. It's like the states that continue to rule sodomy is illegal - it's meaningless, because they can't overturn the US supreme court, which has said that it isnt. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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SqueezeOne Pow
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07-26-2007 11:38
They start feeding kinds the koolaid in kindergarten and it continues through highschool and sometimes beyond. By the time people become adults they've had the supposed superiority of all things USA drilled into their heads so much that most people believe it unquestioningly... and they have an incentive to believe it because it appeals to people's innate tribalistic tendencies. It's a lot like a religion in that it makes people very intolerant of dissenting points of view. The US certainly isn't the only country polluted by that kind of unthinking nationalism though. It's pretty common throughout the world, and most countries have their favorite bad guy too. Exactly. Like I said, I have no illusions about the state of my country. There's plenty of f@#ked up shit going down because of the US. But to say that the US is the only country capable of such things is unrealistically idealistic and naive. _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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07-26-2007 11:39
Chip I agree, but there's also hope in this country for getting our freedoms restored please read on.... Found on the front page of the Columbus Dispatch (Columbus, Ohio). While I may be able to go down to the local store and gamble on lottery, or go online and gamble on horse racing, or go one state over and gamble at a casino. It's still illegal for me to transfer money online and gamble in the comfort of my own home, but I can........ "Virtual" Child Porn is legal as ruled by the Ohio State Supreme Court yesterday! I'm disgusted to be a US Citizen and have been for quite awhile now. Many people died so I could have certain rights and freedoms, but the US Government has steadily found a way to erode those right. But things that should be illegal somehow find a way to be legal because the politicians don't really care and can't make any tax revenue from it so they say who cares and allow something like this. Disgusting! The place to change that isnt in Second Life though - its in the legislature. |
Chris Norse
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07-26-2007 11:41
This is an interesting take on it. However we do not control those countries we have the bases in. Now Colette, you are usually pretty world wise, but this is very naive. ![]() _____________________
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Jack Digeridoo
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07-26-2007 11:41
I predict in a few months, these "skill" based games will surface and they will be more fun than any gambling game ever was, and might even be team based with tournaments with large L$ payouts. Hockey teams, volley ball teams, anyone for tennis? Wouldn't that be nice...
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Object Pascale
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07-26-2007 11:42
It is rampant on these forums alone. Citizens of other countries bashing the US and US citizens, and US citizens either quietly taking it or having to defend themselves as I have chosen to do. Nationality is irrelevant. We're all victims of xenophobic comments from time to time, regardless of where we're born. I've had it for being British, even though I don't make an issue of that (I'm no nationalist by any stretch of the imagination). I even had a five minute lecture from some guy once about how ashamed I should be of my Italian roots, even though I'm not Italian at all. I just said arrivederci to somebody apparently. Oh, and he thought I was flirting with his girlfriend. Go figure. ![]() |
Juan Wright
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Gambling, SHOPS...
07-26-2007 11:42
If second life close casinos and gambling is prohibited. I suppose this is because they not pay taxes to the government. I have a question:
Is second life users paying taxes to the government for the objects that people sell and buy in the shops? NO , true? In this case linden labs must close all shops in second life too! or only sell objects made by linden labs and they must pay the taxes of each sale too. Because when you do it you are using real money too. We buy lindens with real money. No raffle balls , no sploders... I think a lot of people are going to retire from sl... Remember that casinos have a lot of camping areas , and all people that use it for win lindens now must be really angry... Shops have few good camping areas. A lot of people don't wish have a premium account and pay. And in my opinion, with the money of a premium account you don't have enough money for all things a normal user wish buy. Perhaps linden labs must change of country and go to a tax haven... or at least implement a system that can make gambling , sploders , etc... legal in second life if don't wish lose a lot of users that have fun playing games and with sploders at the disco etc. Sploders and raffle balls are great to attract people to your place and by far better than lucky chairs for this. Regards |
Jack Digeridoo
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07-26-2007 11:43
uhhh will be allowed to bet on the outcome of skill based games played in world?? Like if hockey teams get really popular can we bet on SL hockey games? hehehe.
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