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Why people buy or use weapons in this game ?

Yiffy Yaffle
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Join date: 22 Oct 2004
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11-18-2006 06:46
Using a gun in a designed area for the purpose of using them is one thing, but when people go out of their way to bring their guns to clubs or areas where we publicly state its forbidden, thats where the sh1t flies.
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Bree Giffen
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Join date: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 2,715
11-18-2006 08:32
Get all those newbies camping for chump change. Pay them to be walking targets. Give them a monster avatar and tell them to run around. Maybe give them a dollar incentive if they can survive longer. Then you charge paying weapon owning customers to shoot these newbies. Gun owners finally get something to shoot at. You and the newbies get some payola. Casinos go out of business. Everybody wins!
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Tamaria Vixen
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Join date: 23 May 2005
Posts: 26
11-18-2006 13:59
From: Gigs Taggart
The majority of combat people I've met in SL are pretty polite. The mercs (in general), and various other combat armies were pretty good about when I needed to venture into one of their war zones.

I was a landlord renting to someone who liked to do this combat stuff for a while, so I often did have to jump into the middle of combat and get work done. I'd say 95% of them would ask me something like "are you on a side" or "are you playing" or things like that before just shooting me. For the other 5% generally if I got shot I'd yell to stop for a minute while I took care of whatever parcel task was needed and they would follow. It was maybe the 1 out of 100 guy that was an asshole.


Yea. I'm part of a WarHammer roleplay group and they're pretty cool. It's just I get really bitchy at people who shoot up clubs and stuff where obviously people aren't playing along. I used to say all weapons were bad, but once I played with mature people, it was different, yaknow?
Tamaria Vixen
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11-18-2006 14:06
From: Bree Giffen
Get all those newbies camping for chump change. Pay them to be walking targets. Give them a monster avatar and tell them to run around. Maybe give them a dollar incentive if they can survive longer. Then you charge paying weapon owning customers to shoot these newbies. Gun owners finally get something to shoot at. You and the newbies get some payola. Casinos go out of business. Everybody wins!


Wow...Uh...That's actually a pretty good idea. Have you thought about implementing it?
Gummi Richthofen
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Join date: 3 Oct 2006
Posts: 605
11-19-2006 03:36
From: Tamaria Vixen
Wow...Uh...That's actually a pretty good idea. Have you thought about implementing it?


"I'd buy that for a dollar!"

Is, I think, the movie quote...
Bree Giffen
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Join date: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 2,715
11-19-2006 08:00
The saying translated for second life is... "I'd buy that for 270 lindens!"

Unfortunately I have no land to implement this idea. I don't even know much about bullets and weaponmaking which I think you would need to make it work right. Feel free to take it as your own!
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Bruno Ziskey
Spartan King
Join date: 12 May 2006
Posts: 39
11-20-2006 07:31
From: Yumi Murakami
I think it's simple: people like to feel they have power, even if they never use it. Seems odd, but it's psychologically true.


VERY true, I have run into too many groups who think that they can just shoot others ons afe land and think (or know) they can get away with it. Groups like the SLPD, Alliance Navy, geeze, so many groups do this, and why? Because they like to feel in power! If we're staying psychological, everyone is inherently selfish, which can create greed, and lust for power, even when that "power" is in a virtual world, and the "power" is created at the expense of the rest of us paying account people! I dont pay money to LL to be told by groups like the Alliance Navy that they can shoot wherever they please; they are not the real police, the Lindens are! It is true that the lindens cant always solve problems when called, but just remember that they are human to, there is only a limited amount of manpower in LL, and they can only do so much! Do NOT let any group that claims to be "protecting SL and its citizens" fool you into believing that it is an honest group unless they have the official backing of the Lindens! My message to you, AN and all the rest, is to stay in the combat sims, and leave the rest of us alone! I cannot stand it when you try to control whats not yours!
Ishtara Rothschild
Do not expose to sunlight
Join date: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 569
11-20-2006 13:07
From: Bree Giffen
Get all those newbies camping for chump change. Pay them to be walking targets. Give them a monster avatar and tell them to run around. Maybe give them a dollar incentive if they can survive longer. Then you charge paying weapon owning customers to shoot these newbies. Gun owners finally get something to shoot at. You and the newbies get some payola. Casinos go out of business. Everybody wins!


Hm... now that's a business idea. If you can't earn your first gold pieces by slaying mobs (NPC targets), turn into a mob yourself in order to earn money. It isn't any more degrading than being reduced to a living camping chair cushion. But then... the griefers who cage or shoot people just for fun wouldn't have their fun with a consenting victim, otherwise they'd rather play Counterstrike.
scott Petshop
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Join date: 14 Aug 2006
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11-21-2006 00:02
From: Dario Mesyats
i don't understand the desire of having a gun in Secondlife

what do you think about ?



It's too bad PVP is a joke on SL. It would be fun. I never was into the range weapons.
Lance Talon
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Join date: 9 Nov 2006
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Earl Zabibha... a COP???
12-06-2006 22:10
Originally Posted by Earl Zabibha
I get so tired of hearing everyone tell me to remove my gun when I am in uniform, as a police officer in SL. I am a police officer in RL and no one tells me to remove my gun when i go places. well I did have one and I just looked at her like she was the dumbiest $*@!# in the world and her boss jumped all over her like whe was as well.

Just FYI from my experience in actual RL Law Enforcement its my personal and professional opinion that after reading Earl Zabibha quote that he probably is not a real Law Enforcement officer… sounds more like a disgruntled security guard to me =) maybe I’m wrong on this call but with an attitude like that I certainly hope that I am not… lol
Angelique LaFollette
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12-06-2006 22:17
From: Gummi Richthofen
...and the avs walking around underneath you, finding themselves peppered with falling watermelons: did they consent?

Like most people who have been shot at in RL, I find any game use of guns or conversations about guns to be utterly inexcusable. I have yet to find anyone who has had to use a gun for it's designed purpose, wanting to carry on "playing" with them online or in RL. This makes me exceedingly intolerant of "gun people" in general, and I'd like to be able to have a "gun suppression field" that I can carry around to stop all this rubbish.


Well, since i usually play on Privately owned Sims, this hasn't been a Problem. You see, Part of Using these toys is Using them responsibly.
My Aunty always said people judge the world by thier own example. I assumed people would Play Responsibly, you assumed the Opposite. Interesting, Non?

A.
Annisetta Anadyr
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12-06-2006 23:09
From: Angelique LaFollette
Well, since i usually play on Privately owned Sims, this hasn't been a Problem. You see, Part of Using these toys is Using them responsibly.
My Aunty always said people judge the world by thier own example. I assumed people would Play Responsibly, you assumed the Opposite. Interesting, Non?

A.


Do you know for sure that was an assumption? My first few minuites on the game once I got out of the welcome area were nothing but red clouds of particles batting me all over the place. I had no idea what was going on. After I worked out how to use the camera properly, I spotted some idiot shooting at me from a safe distance. He got fed up after a while, probably because I didn't respond - didn't know how to actually!

Luckily that sort of thing is a minority 'sport' but not nice to be met with that on arrival for the first time. Anybody care to imagine how many new people have been instantly put off by idiots liike that? Just looked like a horribly bugged swirling mess at the time.
Coyote Momiji
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12-07-2006 01:34
From: Lance Talon
Just FYI from my experience in actual RL Law Enforcement its my personal and professional opinion that after reading Earl Zabibha quote that he probably is not a real Law Enforcement officer… sounds more like a disgruntled security guard to me =) maybe I’m wrong on this call but with an attitude like that I certainly hope that I am not… lol


Mmhmm.
Krysta Domela
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Join date: 7 Mar 2005
Posts: 23
I own weapons for fun
12-07-2006 04:50
My friends and I have a blast. From water melons to penis shooters. I have had people I don't know on my land with a weapon. I ask them right out, are you going to shoot me? I have never been shot. I then let them know to be careful with weapons, they can be banned. They thank me & move on. I have shot griefers at public events who cause trouble, but never randomly shoot people I don't know.
Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
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12-07-2006 05:10
I dislike people who need unasked to play "police".

(No bad word about RL police. They do a good job)

Morwen.
Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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12-07-2006 05:14
From: Susie Boffin
I have no problems at all with gun users in Second life. When I catch them on my land I freeze, eject and ban them them after an appropriate period of scolding. :)


Guns are just objects that make a sound effect and cause another object to be propelled from them. They are welcome on any lands owned by me or my alts.

Guns are fun, and fun is what I'm all about.
Conan Godwin
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12-07-2006 05:18
From: Ceera Murakami
Unfortunately, griefers often love to belong to "Police" and "Military" groups, and love to wear uniforms. So, since the average resident in SL has absolutely NO reason to believe that a police uniform in SL or membership in a "Police" SL group is any more significant than wearing a pink and green "Cat in the hat" hat, it's the weapon that they focus on, and object to.

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It's a pity that. Personally, I have made an exact replica of my old Royal Navy uniform for one of my alts, and enjoy parading about in it ( chicks dig it, I assure you ) but it's very sad that so many griefers are drawn to military groups since most of these groups are setup for legitimate role-playing purposes.
Conan Godwin
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12-07-2006 05:22
One of the best games in SL is a game invented by my friend Litoya Steinbeck and I - "Extreme Pool". Basically, it involves standing back from a pool table and blasting it with rocket launchers, RPGs and heavy machine guns and seeing how many balls you can pot.

Good times.
Morwen Bunin
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12-07-2006 05:23
From: Conan Godwin
It's a pity that. Personally, I have made an exact replica of my old Royal Navy uniform for one of my alts, and enjoy parading about in it ( chicks dig it, I assure you ) but it's very sad that so many griefers are drawn to military groups since most of these groups are setup for legitimate role-playing purposes.


People who give more value to an uniform that it is an sign of certain job/rank make me laugh. And with me a lot of other "chicks".

Morwen.
Conan Godwin
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12-07-2006 05:26
From: Kris Ritter
I love it when people expose themselves as the self righteous pricks they are. Never mind whether I shoot it, I can't WEAR a gun on your land?! Good job I have no fucking intention of ever setting foot on it then.

Fuckheads with opinions like this will never see a L$ of trade from me. Why the fuck should you be allowed to dictate to me whether I can wear a gun as part of my outfit? Fuck you and the high horse you rode in on.



I agree with this. Yes, you can decide who does what on your land - but I will certainly never spend any of my hard-earned L$ in an establishment that tells me what I can and can't wear. Guns are, afterall, just attached prims - they're basically just bulky jewellery until they're drawn. Since a person can take a gun from their inventory as fast as they can draw it from a holster, banning the wearing of holstered weapons is pointless.

Oh, and I have sunglasses that can kill, orbit, push and boot. these can also be attache to my HUD so you can't see them anyway. the vast majority of actuall gun-shaped weapons do nothing but make noise and shoot a bullet - which cannot do any harm.

Once again, you can set the rules on your land by all means, that's your choice - just don't expect any of my business, that's my choice.
Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
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12-07-2006 05:29
From: Earl Zabibha
Like GUN CONTROL works, look at Canada, and England...


You mean the two countries with the lowest rates of gun crime in the world?

What's your point Earl?
Morwen Bunin
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12-07-2006 05:30
From: Conan Godwin
I agree with this. Yes, you can decide who does what on your land - but I will certainly never spend any of my hard-earned L$ in an establishment that tells me what I can and can't wear. Guns are, afterall, just attached prims - they're basically just bulky jewellery until they're drawn. Since a person can take a gun from their inventory as fast as they can draw it from a holster, banning the wearing of holstered weapons is pointless. Once again, you can set the rules on your land - just don't expect any of my business.


If I would have any kind of business in SL, I wouldn't even want people who like to play with guns (even when they are just attachments) to spend money there.. So all is good.

Morwen.
Conan Godwin
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12-07-2006 05:33
From: Morwen Bunin
If I would have any kind of business in SL, I wouldn't even want people who like to play with guns (even when they are just attachments) to spend money there.. So all is good.

Morwen.


We both have freedom to exercise our right to choose, so we're both happy then Morwen :)

My point here really is this; if I decided to ban, for example, people from wearing hats on my land I'd be allowed to, it's my land - but just because I can does that make it right? Is it fair to ban hats from my shop just because I don't like them? Personally, I think so - I can do what I like, but if I did I'd bet there would be a lot of complaints about it.
I'd like some opinions please.
Conan Godwin
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12-07-2006 05:41
From: Morwen Bunin
People who give more value to an uniform that it is an sign of certain job/rank make me laugh. And with me a lot of other "chicks".

Morwen.


Like it or not Morwen, a lot of women like a man in uniform. My alt gets a lot of female attention. Some times it's even a little annoying.

FYI I am a former Royal Navy officer, and the same applies in RL too - I'm talking from experience..
Chris Norse
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12-07-2006 05:49
From: Conan Godwin
You mean the two countries with the lowest rates of gun crime in the world?

What's your point Earl?



Well after guns were banned in both England and Australia, violent gun crime has sky rocketed. England also has a much higher rate of home invasions that take place when the home owner is at home. Something only the very dumb do in the United States.
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