Why people buy or use weapons in this game ?

Like GUN CONTROL works, look at Canada, and England...

Well, I cannot talk about Canada or England... but I can about the Netherlands. Of course we are not crime free, but the murder-rate and/or gun-accidents are rather low here. So yes, I am very happy that is very hard to get a weapon over here.

Morwen

I think it's simple: people like to feel they have power, even if they never use it. Seems odd, but it's psychologically true.

Well if you look at most of the games on the store shelves these days you will see that they are mostly about killing things with some form of weapon. If you look at MMOs in general they are about killing and destroying. SL is what the user makes of it and people who are used to the violent type of gameplay are simply continuing with what they are familiar with.

I'm new, and maybe this is an obvious question but - can you die from being shot in SL? If so does your character get resurrected?

When you get killed in Second Life your avatar gets teleported to your home location.

There are no other penalties involved, your account doesn't get deleted.

Also, you can only get 'killed' in a damage-enabled area, where you see a red heart on your screen at the center of the upper edge. Anywhere else, weapons can push you around or cage you or do other annoying things, but they can't 'hurt' you.

Of course, if you are at your home location and someone starts killing you, they can keep on killing you again, and again, and... you may as well log out for a while until they get bored and go shoot someone else.

Furthermore, given that we cannot yet actually kill anyone with weapons in SL, or even really hurt them (beyond their sensibilities) a police force seems superfluous.

The inability of SL weapons to negatively impact the avatar's RL typist is a major bug and one that I hope (and believe) Ordinal Malaprop is focusing all her energy on fixing.

Who really cares? I say if this gets to you then you need to go back to playing Pac man or somthing of the sort. They can not kill you in SL. this is a V.W. and anything goes, can you really have sex in SL? when someone puts one a Batman Avatar does that make him BATMAN? NO!!! so why piss and moan over someone wearing a gun?. if you want something to B#%@h about then lets talk about all the LAGGGGGG going on in SL lately.

This is a game/not a game for ever how you like it, it is for the user to have and make the fun of it the way he/she see fit.

Correct... and if a user have invested to buy land, it is to him or her to decide what fun is (within the rules set by Linden). And if someone decides that weapons are not fun... for whatever reason. Too bad for you... then weapons are a no go on that persons land.

And indeed weapons are on more then 90% of the land in SL useless. So why even bother to carry them.

Morwen.

I love spoofy guns, harmless, non push type of weapons that does not grief anyone.

And I am every day amazed by the complex battle systems of many swords with gestures and dances, it is all good stuff.

on the flip side the mask my av wears is more of a weapon than any gun I've seen in SL, given the amount of havok it could unleash given the right command.

It just happens not to *look* like a gun.

You know, on the part of swords, thier history, their customs and so on, I go a long way with you. This can be very interesting and amazing..
And maybe on sim fitting to subject (whatever that may be), wear them. But respect the wish of others who don't want weapons or person they don't know with weapons on their land.

It seems some of the people here find it their right to wear a weapons and I say it something that can be granted if a person (like behaviour, respect and so on) deserves it.

Morwen.

It doesn't look as a gun... it will not work as a gun on my land... is it then still a gun (on my land)?

Morwen.

If anything goes....why do we need a police force?



Because anything goes. There's no rule that says we have to allow people to wear weapons on our land or in our places of business. In the same way putting on a Batman avi doesn't make someone Batman, putting on a military or police uniform doesn't make someone a peace officer or military personel.



And some of us make fun with no weapons, or only certain types of weapons. How about this...you and a group of friends have come to SL, built this great big castle, tracked down these excellet elven skins and shapes, worked out all the rules for the game/Rp you're about to undertake, and then start playing. The next day when the game is really getting good, some guy walks in wearing full riot gear, two pistols holstered to his legs, and a shotgun across his back.

Kinda ruins the immersion and spoils the fun, ya know?

No one's saying you can't buy, own, wear, and use your guns. Some of us are just saying, "Not around us please. We don't care for that." or "Not here please. This isn't that type of Sim." It's just a little thing called common courtesy, ya know?

The rumour that seems to be going around that I am developing a script to crash someone's client so hard that the keys fly off their keyboard and hit them in the face at high velocity is just that. A rumour. Certainly not true at all.

Actually...I came to SL because being shot at bothered me. It may behoove those who wish to shoot at something to chose a video game, rather than a virtual community? It seems more logical to me. When I want to shoot people, I IM people and tell them where the Unreal Tournament or Quake server is and we shoot up people we know want to be shot at.

However, as it turns out, the argument is frequently used 'It's just a game' (or 'I was just playing'), which I must point out every single time to both residents of SecondLife and my nieces and nephews, 'That is beside the point'.

Deriving fun by making people angry is completely against the spirit of good sportsmanship. Since functional weapons have no other purpose in SecondLife than to extend the gaming component of the system, one would hope that a majority of residents have the maturity to ask politely if you would like to play.

To give an analogy, amorous young men walk up to me and try to 'claim' me now and again. These young men are generally chewed up and spit out with extreme prejudice.

Imagine that a young man walked up with his Xcite parts showing. You would be put off. Imagine that he then started using his Xcite functions on you. You would be offended. I know I would be. Now imagine that above and beyond all of this, when he knew you were upset, he found it endlessly amusing. That's grouds for a hiney kicking.

I don't mind the sex on SL at all. But there is a protocol that must be followed. It is the same protocol that should be used with violence. It is the same protocol I use with violence.

Civil behavoir demands that you have permission to play like that. And, if you actually think it's fun to make people mad...Maybe they aren't the ones taking 'The Game' too seriously. If you are 'Just playing', maybe some sportsmanship is needed.

As for the reason for having guns? Because they look cool and they are fun to play with.

Awwwwww

I love my guns but only one I shoot is Razor, and my friends closest to me.

Hey it's a great way to pass time when we are bored.

Heck I even eject and ban Razor if bored enough. LOL

The majority of combat people I've met in SL are pretty polite. The mercs (in general), and various other combat armies were pretty good about when I needed to venture into one of their war zones.

I was a landlord renting to someone who liked to do this combat stuff for a while, so I often did have to jump into the middle of combat and get work done. I'd say 95% of them would ask me something like "are you on a side" or "are you playing" or things like that before just shooting me. For the other 5% generally if I got shot I'd yell to stop for a minute while I took care of whatever parcel task was needed and they would follow. It was maybe the 1 out of 100 guy that was an asshole.

Guns aren't scary. Anvils, now. Drop an anvil on someone you'll get their attention.

First of all in my personal opinion, as others will agree... This is not a game to EVERYONE, That said, the reason people buy or use weapons in this world..... is......


The same reason why some drink diet and some don't, or,
The same reason why some prefer drama's others comedies, or,
The same reason why you may like blue but I prefer black, or
The same reason why.....WELL................

you get the point, IT'S FREE WILL, ENJOY IT RESPONSIBLY!

I help run a military RP. Not a military that has wars with other people, or go around trying to be badasses, or any of that. Just a place that we have a base, roleplay, and have a good time. We also have the occasional wargame on our property. Okay, I can be a bit of a prick when someone just comes on the base and acts like they own the place. But then, so are several other people when someone just walks into their house like they own the place. But as far as the guns go, of course we have them, would be kinda strange to have a military without firearms. While I do everything I can to keep those in my group from greifing, I can't control them. The most I can do is remove them from the group if I find out. As far as myself, I generally have one that I wear on my leg. sometimes its just a scriptless one that can't even be held that is part of one of my uniforms. Other times its one that is multi functional that rezzes into my hand when I click on the holster. It has some really interesting ones like anti-grav (mainly use this on friends on no flight parcels just to watch em squirm as they float up) and a foam bullet. pretty much harmless, but can come in handy when dealing with greifers. The more disruptive ones are saved for the really annoying greifers, which are rare. Yes, I know, this puts me into the class of greifer in most eyes, except I use these on parcels that either I own (okay, teir rent) or I know the owner and they ask me to help with this stuff. Yes, there are easier ways to deal with them, but not always as fun. But, to be honest, unless it is something that has been planned out ahead of time, I rarely even use my gun. Generally, for dealing with greifers I use hud based systems that you cant even see that I'm wearing. Which I'm always wearing, mainly because I just dont' bother taken them off. But, that is my take on it, and you can take it or leave it. If you ask me not to wear my gun on your parcel/sim I can either take it off or leave. There is no reason for me to get upset over it, though it might annoy me, exspecially when it's a non scripted gun in a holster that just adds to the looks of the outfit. But, as I dont' like people just roaming my parcel that aren't in my group, you don't like any guns to be seen on yours. To each their own

The look of the gun
The esthetics of combat
Still have a place here

...and the avs walking around underneath you, finding themselves peppered with falling watermelons: did they consent?

Like most people who have been shot at in RL, I find any game use of guns or conversations about guns to be utterly inexcusable. I have yet to find anyone who has had to use a gun for it's designed purpose, wanting to carry on "playing" with them online or in RL. This makes me exceedingly intolerant of "gun people" in general, and I'd like to be able to have a "gun suppression field" that I can carry around to stop all this rubbish.