How many others are happy with age verification?

Yeah all the forums' born again cyber-virgins scare me too.

I'm all for strict age verification.

Children and teens should only engage in wholesome activities like reading the Bible and watching TV.

For those of you saying that age verification and the data will be illegal in your country - do you really think they are going to implement this in a way that is illegal? The laws of your country will be followed - I'm still not convinced that they will need anything like what people are saying they will...

the fanatical doom-saying that is going on by some people I find almost surreal, and I swear if one more person tries to equate this even remotely to the Nazi party then you are the ones that needs your head checked.

Put it this way, I used to play a bit of online poker through a very well-known UK provider. They used exactly the same company here to verify age. I haven't received a single piece of extra junkmail with my name/address on it that I don't know why I got it (i.e. catalogues from companies I bought things from and got delivered) in the two years since...I also haven't had my identity stolen which as has been said is just as easy to do from your trashcan as anywhere else (even your banks trashcans hold sensitive information a surprising amount of the time).

Honestly, I can understand where many arguments are coming from - but I think you are overreacting based on a lack of information.

Also, just because we aren't interested in cyber-sex doesn't mean we want other people not to have their fun (I wouldn't call it that personally, but each to their own). You are free to do that, and you will be free to do that here through a simple process of verification of your age to ensure that YOU aren't culpable of having such activities with a MINOR...

In my opinion (and I swear if one more person calls me a fascist because I state my opinion...), the age verification system will be nowhere near as dangerous as people think it is and will be in line with many other systems that people use EVERYDAY, often without even knowing it. Have you got any customer loyalty cards? Guess what, they take statistics on every single item you buy from the supermarket. Got any credit cards? got a bank account? got a video rental card? got a mobile phone contract? subscribe to cable tv? the list goes on and on and on...guess what happens to the customer list when a video rental store goes bust? Guess what happens to customer lists when almost all businesses go bust? that's right, they sell them...you have had your name/address/drivers license sold to countless people already - learn to live with it, that's what capitalism brings with it.

I just wish The providers would stop making half baked announcements full of holes and questions every time a major change is in the works. HAS Integrity finally agreed to be part of this yet? And I wish they would stop with the disingenuous doubletalk over the motives behind it.

This I agree with - they need to provide more information and better customer interaction.

I love that you point out that we don't even KNOW that Integrity is going to be the one dealing with it and everyone is so certain this is the end!

Agreed they need some proof readers to come up with the obvious flaws in their statements so they can avoid confusion.

As to motives - they should just not state any. The ones they give are never complete, and some of the true motives they cant say.

*Joke Mode On* Perhaps they need to hire a few Liberal Arts Majors to work in the Communications Department.
*Joke Mode Off*

Not in the slightest. For every 'content creator' there needs to be 'consumer' buying the stuff, otherwise most couldn't afford the land they own.

For some people, all they want to do is socialise, go to a club, chat to people. That's fine. Maybe a little section from our "Introduction to Second Life" page might help you:

"Second Life is, essentially, a blank sheet of paper. Give a sheet of paper to 50 different people, and each person will make something different out of it. Some might use it to draw or paint a picture; some may write down a poem or the words to a song on it. Others still may cut or fold it into a complex shape, and some will simply just screw it into a ball and throw it at you. All very different - but perfectly legitimate - uses of that same blank piece of paper."

Broccoli

Apparently, neither did they...

Broccoli

now that, is frightening

Just the other day I got ANOTHER letter from an old employer saying they had a security breach, information MAY have been copromosed,etc, and this isn't the first. So yeah, I'm not overly concerned over that stuff being out there. I'm more concerned over what information will be available to the inworld wacko. I don't have any confidence in Linden's statements as to what will be used and how it will be protected, as they can't even ascertain their chosen provider of the service is onboard.

Nobody is legally selling my driving licence. The DVLA sold my name and address until people got a bit miffed about it and they had to stop but they weren't selling my licence.

Read the blogs about the information they're asking for.

Nevertheless, that's the feeling I get from SOME posts here (and other threads)

Well, I've seen elitist artists before not wanting the general public to see their art - only other elitist artist are worthy to see it "as they are the only ones who can appreciate it". You never can tell were this arogant attitude might crawl in



Personally I enjoy most aspects of SL - ranging from "harmless" socializing (harmless is in quotes, as some people would find my mere existence a threat as I'm different from them), over cybersex to enjoying content creations, from meeting new people over creating content myself to helping newbies when I can.

The bible that tells those that sleep with the same gender should face death penalty.... not even to speak about TV.

Morwen,.

Well, I think he was being sarcastic...

There is no need now to start getting culturally insensitive and attacking people's religious viewpoints. The real issue here isn't what children should or should not be doing - it is what ADULTS shouldn't be doing with them...whether intentionally or not.

Nothing to stop art being used to sexualy arouse somebody, might be just the emotion the artist intended to provoke.

There are a great many works of "art" that were, or still are considered porn, Édouard Manet's "The Luncheon on the Grass" being one that springs to mind. Not by todays standards particularly pornographic, but at the time of its creation very controversial, the work still comes under attack from time to time, and not for entirely different reasons. But i digress.

To imply that art can't be pornographic in nature is a very simplistic view of the subject. Granted most porn is easily discernable, but targeting it as an invalid art form would have serious repercussions on what you imply to be high art.

......why did i pick this subject to be the first post on this forum? what on earth was I thinking?....

Oh dude you're in for a whole lot of whoopass!

hehe these forums aren't bad, good people different views, decent debate generally.

I suggest quitting while you are ahead. Never revisit this place. Uninstall second life. Throw a way your computer. Buy lots of books, and find a nice beach somewhere, with a cooler full of beer. It's for your own good.

It's not really a matter of being happy or not to me. I tend to be happy no matter what LL does but I will be happy not to turn over my personal details to a data mining company and increase my risk of identity theft. I guess you could call that happy. LL has given me an opportunity not to open myself up to identity theft. Remember..."It's all voluntary."

What is really getting on my tits about this has been exemplified with the latest blog post. I'm a premium account holder, I have a certain level of support only ... unless I share with them extremely sensitive information I'm not verified, yet they have the cheek to offer me better support? They'll take money off me, even though they don't believe I'm me?

It stinks to high heaven. The hypocrisy beggars belief.

Also there's the issue of trust, it's a two way street and no third party are involved in something unless there's something in it for them, this is fair enough, they're a business, but LL haven't told us what's in it for Integrity.

You will carry the unverified label forever, and be looked upon as a second rate citizen, unless you cave in and volunteer to have your identity stolen.

Integrity will make a fortune selling the information provided by SL residents. I would guess they are paying LL for this.

"It's all voluntary."

From what I read it is all voluntary until they day they catch some n00b whipping his 3 prim member out in a non flagged zone. At which it becomes mandatory

. LL does not seem to want my money even when I wish to give it to them my alt is frozen at the moment, and I cant enter the Direct Debit to my german bank like it says I can on the german forums and Paypal wont let me transfer money to LL, but happily to SLExchange where I bought enough lindens to sell to cover for my alt and LL wont let me sell them.

What monastery sim are some of you people on? It must be great being so perfect that you can judge everyone and dismiss the concerns of anyone not matching up to your exacting standards.

Not too sure who you were referring to with that Niles - but I never dismissed anyone's concerns, merely stated the benefits as I see them for myself and wondering if others were thinking along the same lines...

If you wanted to get self-righteous you certainly achieved that however.

Moving on...

Anybody got any more news onto whether or not Integrity is actually going to be the provider? Anybody got any thoughts on why we should be so worried throughout most of Europe when there are stringent data-protection acts in place?