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How many others are happy with age verification?

Morwen Bunin
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05-16-2007 11:58
From: Lilbit Nervous
Yes, both of the remaining SL "addicts" will be pleased with the new era of disney based content, you got me there.


And will trouble finding each other in the empty continents.... unless they have each other on their friendlists and can map each other...

Morwen.
Lilbit Nervous
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05-16-2007 11:59
Not correct,
any violence or sex is adult,
so, just like I said,
put a blood spot down, you are adult, people will report you,
put an axe somewhere, adult, people will report you,
do anything that could offend someone, somehow, for any reason, adult
Brenda Connolly
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05-16-2007 11:59
From: Morwen Bunin
*studies the finger pointing at her*

Sorry, that is not a sticky finger. So no biting for you.

Morwen.

You may have to flag that finger, depending on where and how it got, "Sticky".
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Lilbit Nervous
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05-16-2007 12:01
From: SqueezeOne Pow
Does anyone else have a valid opinion they'd like to share about this subject? Actual dialogue instead of petty insults are appreciated!


You don't seem to want valid opinions, you seem to want "Yay, I'm happy to hand over my passport information" or you'll call it invalid,
you need to look into integrity to understand any concerns, you haven't,
and you press on like a right wing bully, claiming all opinions that aren't yours, are "pretty insults"
Morwen Bunin
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05-16-2007 12:02
From: Brenda Connolly
You may have to flag that finger, depending on where and how it got, "Sticky".


Good point.... *flags Mandy*
Lilbit Nervous
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05-16-2007 12:05
After a quick check squeeze,
you make mechs with weapons,
those are violent,
those are adult flagged content.
Nina Stepford
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05-16-2007 12:06
when people actually do start leaving i will remember this thread. it will feel like poetic justice.
Lilbit Nervous
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05-16-2007 12:11
I just don't know why a guy who makes mechs with penis guns is so pro-adult flags, he'd have to kill his own product line, which is well made even
BrunoOlsen Oh
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05-16-2007 12:13
From: SqueezeOne Pow
Well, your alarmist attitude towards it is your business...or lack thereof.


And the difference from mine to LL's is... which? ;)

From: SqueezeOne Pow
Does anyone else have a valid opinion they'd like to share about this subject?


All oppinions are valid - even those one doesn't agree with
SqueezeOne Pow
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05-16-2007 12:17
From: Lilbit Nervous
You don't seem to want valid opinions, you seem to want "Yay, I'm happy to hand over my passport information" or you'll call it invalid,
you need to look into integrity to understand any concerns, you haven't,
and you press on like a right wing bully, claiming all opinions that aren't yours, are "pretty insults"


Again with the attacks...I'm sorry I don't have the same opinion as you.

You aren't even reading what I'm saying. Maybe it's too complcated. I haven't said ANYTHING that could make you feel justified in thinking I am FOR giving up important personal information. I've said the opposite multiple times. I've also said I won't be verifying because

(a) I'm not giving the information they want to ANYONE that isn't a government or major financial institution

(b) I won't be affected by it because I don't frequent the types of establishments that will be marked "adult".

(c) since I know some people won't want to give that info and only go into SL for sex play then there will be people leaving which could drive prices on land down a bit. (Poppa needs a brand new sim!)

(d) anyone who stays will either verify so they can continue doing what they do (which is fine with me) or they will NOT verify and start exploring other aspects of SL...potentially becoming creative, productive SL citizens.

That's my opinion. Sorry if I offend you, Lilbit. I'm just expressing myself!
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BrunoOlsen Oh
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05-16-2007 12:18
forgot this one:

From: SqueezeOne Pow
Actual dialogue instead of petty insults are appreciated!


All thing start with one self - remember this:

From: SqueezeOne Pow
This shows your lack of creative abilities


well, nevermind...
Ciaran Laval
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05-16-2007 12:34
From: SqueezeOne Pow


(b) I won't be affected by it because I don't frequent the types of establishments that will be marked "adult".



This may not be entirely true, reading through the transcript earlier someone asked what happens if you can access adult content from an adjacent parcel, Robin's answer wasn't exactly clear, something along the lines of we'll have to look at it on a case by case basis.

Admittedly she may have been answering something else at this time!

However, you see all those adult ads in the sky? I see them causing problems for non adult parcels.
Lilbit Nervous
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05-16-2007 12:40
From: SqueezeOne Pow

(b) I won't be affected by it because I don't frequent the types of establishments that will be marked "adult".


The store you own is "adult" it contains mechs with guns, aka violence
Nina Stepford
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05-16-2007 12:45
i see a future of porn shops at 200m, above the banlines.
From: Ciaran Laval
This may not be entirely true, reading through the transcript earlier someone asked what happens if you can access adult content from an adjacent parcel, Robin's answer wasn't exactly clear, something along the lines of we'll have to look at it on a case by case basis.

Admittedly she may have been answering something else at this time!

However, you see all those adult ads in the sky? I see them causing problems for non adult parcels.
SqueezeOne Pow
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05-16-2007 12:52
From: Lilbit Nervous
The store you own is "adult" it contains mechs with guns, aka violence


Don't be so naive. Everything I've read from LL about this makes reference to "extreme violence" which my mech suits don't apply to. There's no more violence than a G.I. Joe episode in my bad boys!

Even if they do ban ALL violence (which they won't) I still have a decent line of non-violent avs in the works that will keep me going.
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Jig Chippewa
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05-16-2007 13:01
From: Ciaran Laval
Interesting, never looked it that way but mine says similar:

"This passport remains the property of Her Majesty's Government of the United Kingdom and may be withdrawn at any time. It should not be tampered with or passed to an unauthorised person."

I'm assuming that LL and Integrity have therefore been authorised by Her Majesty's Government!


That is what I have been on about all along
Jig Chippewa
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05-16-2007 13:07
From: Lilbit Nervous
Anyone who is happy with the age verification is either:
1. A kid with a stolen ID
2. An ignorant fool who is unwilling to explore the company they are giving their vital documents to
3. A mentally challanged person so addicted to SL that they are willing to risk their RL just to play a game.


Good points Lilbit.
I am in agreement
Jig Chippewa
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05-16-2007 13:12
From: SqueezeOne Pow
Does anyone else have a valid opinion they'd like to share about this subject? Actual dialogue instead of petty insults are appreciated!


I agree with Lilbit. I am NOT an American and am seeing a polarization of ideas and values and world opinion here. We have got to get our act together if we want to save SL from being a "moral majority" playground. And please all of you "creative types" - what xactly do you mean?? I think most worthy artists will be leaving sl over this. I am an artist in real life and thank goodness I have never - NEVER - promoted myself here.
SqueezeOne Pow
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05-16-2007 13:39
From: Jig Chippewa
I agree with Lilbit. I am NOT an American and am seeing a polarization of ideas and values and world opinion here. We have got to get our act together if we want to save SL from being a "moral majority" playground. And please all of you "creative types" - what xactly do you mean?? I think most worthy artists will be leaving sl over this. I am an artist in real life and thank goodness I have never - NEVER - promoted myself here.


Again I think this is being a little alarmist here. People are confusing porn for art in this particular situation. It is possible to have dark and provocative pieces of art without overt sexuality or violence. From what I've seen in my time in SL most don't realize this.

Just about every piece I've seen that involves sexually explicit imagery was pretty much meant for arousal rather than conveying any actual ideas...and most of it wasn't very imaginative.

I just think SL could be used for a lot more creativity than it is. There is a decent amount there already, but there definitely could be more.

As far as the "moral majority" I really don't think morals or religion have anything to do with it. At least not for me. I think people should do what they want about their personal spiritual beliefs as long as they don't interfere with another's beliefs or rights. I don't think this is about that and I don't know why that even got brought up in this thread, honestly.
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Colette Meiji
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05-16-2007 14:01
From: SqueezeOne Pow
Again I think this is being a little alarmist here. People are confusing porn for art in this particular situation. It is possible to have dark and provocative pieces of art without overt sexuality or violence. From what I've seen in my time in SL most don't realize this.

Just about every piece I've seen that involves sexually explicit imagery was pretty much meant for arousal rather than conveying any actual ideas...and most of it wasn't very imaginative.

I just think SL could be used for a lot more creativity than it is. There is a decent amount there already, but there definitely could be more.

As far as the "moral majority" I really don't think morals or religion have anything to do with it. At least not for me. I think people should do what they want about their personal spiritual beliefs as long as they don't interfere with another's beliefs or rights. I don't think this is about that and I don't know why that even got brought up in this thread, honestly.


I dont think your a moral majority type - I think you're judgemental

People who are into virtual sex for play and into virtual sex related creations are inferior to people who like to play with or make robots with guns.

And the reason given is they should be able to get their sex IRL ..

Maybe some of those into sexual play get their Adolescent robot shoot pew pew fix outside of SL.
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05-16-2007 14:04
From: Colette Meiji
I dont think your a moral majority type - I think you're judgemental

People who are into virtual sex for play and into virtual sex related creations are inferior to people who like to play with or make robots with guns.

And the reason given is they should be able to get their sex IRL ..

Maybe some of those into sexual play get their Addolecent robot shoot pew pew fix outside of SL.


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Colette Meiji
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05-16-2007 14:09
From: SqueezeOne Pow
"Hey pot, you're black!" -Kettle


It was an example in response , evidently you missed it.

I dont think there anything wrong with robots or shooting in SL .. or creations related to it.

I also dont think theres anything wrong with Sex in SL .. or creations related to it.
Nyctasia Bunnyhug
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05-16-2007 14:25
First they took away the stipend... I turned my account to a free account.. that cost them some money...

Then they took away the ratings... i complained

Now they want to add a age check... I'll take away buying my lindens from them

Monthly loss for Lindens - Est - $90.00 ... not much but maybe it will add up to them if we stop supporting them

Best way is to remove all ratings from your land
Morwen Bunin
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05-16-2007 14:26
From: Gillian Vuckovic
I'm rather disappointed that so many people jump on the "religion is bad" bandwagon.


"Respect others as you wished to be respect yourself."

Why this quote? People of certain mayor Christian religion claim me and people like me (homosexuals) as perverts, abnormal, people without completely developed sexual feelings, that our sexuality is against nature laws. that homosexuals should not/could not raise a child.... to mention just a few things. At the same time this Christain religion wants us to forbid to marry....

Some directives from this religion concerning homosexuality:
- Homosexuality is a troubling moral and social phenomenon, even in those countries where it does not present significant legal issues.
- Since this question relates to the natural moral law, the arguments that follow are addressed not only to those who believe in Christ, but to all persons committed to promoting and defending the common good of society (!).
- Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil (!).
- Legal recognition of homosexual unions would obscure certain basic moral values and cause a devaluation of the institution of marriage.
- Allowing children to be adopted by persons living in such unions would actually mean doing violence to these children, in the sense that their condition of dependency would be used to place them in an environment that is not conducive to their full human development.
- The denial of the social and legal status of marriage to forms of cohabitation that are not and cannot be marital is not opposed to justice; on the contrary, justice requires it.
- [...] there are good reasons for holding that such unions are harmful to the proper development of human society, especially if their impact on society were to increase.


At the same time I can see the same with other Christian religions and moslim religions as well (and others).

I have no problem with religous people... it seems they have problems with me.

So yes "Respect others as you wished to be respect yourself" *shrugs*

Morwen.
Walker Moore
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05-16-2007 14:27
From: SqueezeOne Pow
Again I think this is being a little alarmist here. People are confusing porn for art in this particular situation. It is possible to have dark and provocative pieces of art without overt sexuality or violence. From what I've seen in my time in SL most don't realize this.

Just about every piece I've seen that involves sexually explicit imagery was pretty much meant for arousal rather than conveying any actual ideas...
maybe you're getting too aroused by it to be able to appreciate the ideas behind it, to appreciate that it's art?

sorry, but i feel very uncomfortable being told what is, and is not, art. :(
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