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07-23-2009 14:18
From: Meade Paravane
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Wait a minute.. It's gone from "save the children" to "save the planet"???


Yes!

But, the planet is Pluto.

Breakfast anyone?
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07-23-2009 14:32
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LL sending out warning emails now about the changes??
07-23-2009 16:11
I just recieved an email from LL re the changes I have posted the details here:

http://www.slapt.me/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=252

are they sending them out now to people to warn them of the changes
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07-23-2009 16:12
And so they give people that have not read the blog/forums less that 24 hours notice...

Email just received:

From: someone
It has come to our attention that your parcel or classified contains adult keywords or has been categorized as Adult, but that it is not currently located on adult land. According to our recent changes in regard to adult content, adult content must be moved to Zindra.
Please note that once the free relocation to Zindra has completed, parcels or classifieds that contain adult search terms but are not located in adult land will no longer be visible in PG or Mature searches in the All tab. As soon as possible, please update your Classifieds or Show in Search listings so that the maturity level of the keywords matches the maturity level of the parcel. You will also need to choose a category other than Adult for your parcel, as this category has been replaced by the Adult maturity. This will allow your listings to show up properly in search.
If your parcel has commercialized adult content or services, you are entitled to land equivalent to your existing parcel(s) on Zindra -- at no charge -- if your request is received by this Friday, July 24.
After July 24, we will no longer accept any new requests for the free relocation to Zindra but will continue to process any requests that are still pending. If you have already submitted a Zindra migration request, please disregard this notice.
To submit your relocation request, please follow the steps outlined in the "How do I apply for the migration to Zindra?" section of our Details for landowners on migrating to Zindra Knowledge Base article. For more information about the land available in Zindra, please see our latest Zindra blog post.
We look forward to hearing from you soon.
Regards,
Customer Support
Linden Lab


So there it is. The bulk email has now gone out - on the last day of "free" transfers....

Gomez
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Couldbe Yue
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07-23-2009 16:15
what time did they send these out? I still have a parcel on mainland that had lots of naughty words in it until about 4 hours ago and I've not received any notification.

Also, who did it go to? the group owner or the landowner or the group creator?
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07-23-2009 16:20
From: Gomez Bracken
And so they give people that have not read the blog/forums less that 24 hours notice...

Email just received:



So there it is. The bulk email has now gone out - on the last day of "free" transfers....

Gomez


I just go this an hour or so ago, I answered and commented on it not being advertised properly.

From: someone

Hello!

Since you have used our support system, we are asking you to help us
improve the support experience in Second Life. If you could spare us
about 5 minutes of your time to fill out the survey found at the link
below, we would be most grateful.

http://support.secondlife.com/ics/survey/survey.asp?deptID=4417&surveyID=1535

Don't worry, we won't publish any of these results publicly, except in
a purely anonymous fashion (percentages or graphs).

Thank you very much for your time and for helping us improve support
in Second Life.

Cyn Skyberg
VP Customer Relations
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Ticket Information:
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Lmfao...
07-23-2009 16:28
It has come to our attention that your parcel or classified contains adult keywords or has been categorized as Adult, but that it is not currently located on adult land. According to our recent changes in regard to adult content, adult content must be moved to Zindra.

Please note that once the free relocation to Zindra has completed, parcels or classifieds that contain adult search terms but are not located in adult land will no longer be visible in PG or Mature searches in the All tab. As soon as possible, please update your Classifieds or Show in Search listings so that the maturity level of the keywords matches the maturity level of the parcel. You will also need to choose a category other than Adult for your parcel, as this category has been replaced by the Adult maturity. This will allow your listings to show up properly in search.

If your parcel has commercialized adult content or services, you are entitled to land equivalent to your existing parcel(s) on Zindra -- at no charge -- if your request is received by this Friday, July 24.

After July 24, we will no longer accept any new requests for the free relocation to Zindra but will continue to process any requests that are still pending. If you have already submitted a Zindra migration request, please disregard this notice.

To submit your relocation request, please follow the steps outlined in the "How do I apply for the migration to Zindra?" section of our Details for landowners on migrating to Zindra Knowledge Base article. For more information about the land available in Zindra, please see our latest Zindra blog post.

We look forward to hearing from you soon.

Regards,

Customer Support
Linden Lab



Remember, as we said previously this first phase of migration is for commercialized Adult content: parcels that sell an Adult product or service. To identify whether the product or service you provide is Adult, please see this article.

Maturity ratings: an overview https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010

If you've already submitted a ticket to migrate to Zindra, please disregard this notice.




Now... If only someone could get a list of how many tickets they had PRIOR to this, and how many they get now, and then what about all the folks that don't check emails regularly... does this mean we can officially AR anyone that is breaking the TOS now?
Does this mean Private Islands must NOW tag Adult.. so that we, already on Zindra, can get back to living & working and not watching all our business go to *Mature* land?
~brie
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07-23-2009 16:30
From: Gomez Bracken
And so they give people that have not read the blog/forums less that 24 hours notice...

So there it is. The bulk email has now gone out - on the last day of "free" transfers....


Yes, I noticed the "timing" of this missive. They really know how to create the most amount of chaos possible.
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07-23-2009 16:31
If it's a form letter picked out on some adult word filter, I'd love to know how many thousands of people just hear about it all today for the first time.
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07-23-2009 16:35
From: Ian Nider
If it's a form letter picked out on some adult word filter, I'd love to know how many thousands of people just hear about it all today for the first time.



That's what I am saying... lookout Lindens... there's fixing to be a HUGE outcry... lmfao. They show JUST how competent they are everyday.

~brie
Couldbe Yue
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07-23-2009 16:35
/me idly wonders if this might have anything to do with me telling blondin on Wednesday that I was going to call my lawyer if they dared once more to change the contract for the provision of server space on me with out advising me...

you'll see i gave him a gentle reminder about this if you check the transcript of the OH on Wednesday..

It would be lovely to think I frightened them into doing the right thing - even if it is literally at the last minute

eta and Hypatia talking about going to the FTC would have helped too..
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Lias Leandros
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07-23-2009 17:24
Well they finally decided to contact SOME of their customers (although EVERYONE) can get a e-mail about these changes. I made my switch a week ago - and now I got this letter. No Idea if I am still breaking the law, because they have not provided a slurl to where my adult content is right now. So I guess I have to wait until after the 24th to see if they complain more specifically again.
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07-23-2009 17:50
From: Krazzora Zaftig
ALSO SPECIAL THANKS TO SINDY TSURE!
She's been a longtime friend but she has been my shoulder during this and gave me a slap once or twice that I needed during the process.

I helped?? Damnit, I was just in it for the slappin'...

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Jill Winger
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07-23-2009 20:19
"Please note that once the free relocation to Zindra has completed, parcels or classifieds that contain adult search terms but are not located in adult land will no longer be visible in PG or Mature searches in the All tab. As soon as possible, please update your Classifieds or Show in Search listings so that the maturity level of the keywords matches the maturity level of the parcel."

Well, it wasn't a bulk email to everyone, I didn't get one, I wonder who they picked.

And Linden Labs, just how are 'they' supposed to update, not knowing which words are filtered?

And yes, I agree...if those on mainland now are being informed, then private islands should be required to flag now.

Final thought for the evening, Totally amazed that Linden Labs does this now, incredible, they REALLY are that deceptive, reprehensible, and totally f**ked up.

I didn't think I could be more disgusted with the way they handled this, right up until the end, yet here I am, surprised again
DanielRavenNest Noe
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Unhelpful email
07-23-2009 21:17
I practically wrote the "naughty words" wiki page, and tested every word, so I *know* my search entry does not use them, and also tested each word in my listing just now, so I have no idea why I got the email *twice*

The conspiracy theorist in my says they did it this way to whip up hysteria for the land auctions about to come

Update: Live chat transcript posted to Wiki page:

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Governance_Team_Actions#Told_to_Change_Search_Listing_on_Mature_or_PG_Land
http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Governance_Team_Actions#Told_to_Change_Search_Listing_on_Mature_or_PG_Land

(Maggie references the 60 days timetable entry that *I* wrote in the wiki. I still find it funny that they are referencing resident entries, I should change it to 180 days :-)
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07-23-2009 22:30
Great yet another part of the web ruined by children ! :mad:

wtf is the point of the teen grid :confused:
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07-23-2009 23:10
From: Brieanne Bomazi
It has come to our attention that your parcel or classified contains adult keywords or has been categorized as Adult, but that it is not currently located on adult land. According to our recent changes in regard to adult content, adult content must be moved to Zindra.

We were one of the early moves and we have got this letter this morning, sure cleaned up everywhere and moved it all out within the time limit, now I have to go look at all our tenants see if I have misssed soemthing I suppose
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07-24-2009 00:26
From: Couldbe Yue
what time did they send these out? I still have a parcel on mainland that had lots of naughty words in it until about 4 hours ago and I've not received any notification.

Also, who did it go to? the group owner or the landowner or the group creator?


From my email headers

Delivery-date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:49:46 +0200

I am the landowner and the group owner although the group does not own any adult land anymore on the mainland
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07-24-2009 00:39
From: Gomez Bracken
And so they give people that have not read the blog/forums less that 24 hours notice...

Email just received:



So there it is. The bulk email has now gone out - on the last day of "free" transfers....

Gomez


If it would be a bulk email...

Yesterday (the 23. in my time zone) we had a message of the day at the login screen.

A roundhouse kick, ah, hahaha, no, a roundhouse check of my friendslist and some shop-group members told me: no bulk email. The mail was going only to some well sortet accounts, it seems. I got no email and ca. 40 people even not.

But even a real bulk would be nonsense now: whole Europe is in holidays...and even if that would be not the case, is not everyone on - just 1 single day before deadline.

The email would have had (ah my english?) their time on March, 12, as real bulk to exactly everyone and to any new customer.

But 24 h in front of a deadline and then only to some residents is brutal stupid by LL.
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07-24-2009 01:03
From: Soar Wingtips
From: Brieanne Bomazi
It has come to our attention that your parcel or classified contains adult keywords or has been categorized as Adult, but that it is not currently located on adult land. According to our recent changes in regard to adult content, adult content must be moved to Zindra.


We were one of the early moves and we have got this letter this morning, sure cleaned up everywhere and moved it all out within the time limit, now I have to go look at all our tenants see if I have misssed soemthing I suppose



no, we moved as well. We no longer even OWN the mainland that we left. I am not sure whats up with the email, but i have been asking around in world as well, and laughing to myself at the sheer number of people that still claim its BS. I know all of us bitched, and moaned (myself included) about the forced move, and all, but i think maybe now, we actually are the LUCKY ones. Imagine finding out less than 24 hours before tickets CLOSE, and then finding out that the first day filers are just NOW getting land... 3 weeks later. I noticed on another blog they are ending support for lower viewer numbers on August 5th, so i am curious if that will be the *cut off* day for flagging adult? That's a lil less than 2 weeks from now, and all move tickets haven't been assigned. I still say that tomorrow, end of ticket filing, should be the mandatory date for flagging private islands as adult.

~brie
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07-24-2009 01:12
From: DanielRavenNest Noe

(Maggie references the 60 days timetable entry that *I* wrote in the wiki. I still find it funny that they are referencing resident entries, I should change it to 180 days :-)


Ahahaha. The only serious source of informations for LL is slapt.me.

They learn there much about the AC-Project. I think some of the more average Lindens learned there the first time, that the plan exists, hahaha.

Blondin points often on slapt.me and provided datas and KB translations there...

And for to get news just in time, he sits in every available protesters group.

I have a feeling that the whole Lab is watching slapt.me, since it is somehow clear, that Linden Lab has no fitting intern communication structures and no clear hierarchies and also no idea about what is going on in customers and on the grid.

From a customer point of view is this all not normal.

A thing like slapt.me should be made by LL itself, to hold the community informed, but this all is a hint about the direction their whole long term plans will move: into the abyss. It wouldn't be the first time.

They have no idea how to start anything correct and smart. They will miss their famous and more or less hidden "goals" dramatically, is my impression/speculation and last but not least: my hope.

Cyn said, millions of people will now join SL and thousands of whatever organisations.

Now, I am curious. I can't await the masses marching in, Hahaha.

2010 will tell us the truth. :D

I expect no run into SL. Just biz as usual on a much lower freedom level and a much higher boredom level.
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07-24-2009 01:32
From: Wynochee LeShelle
Ahahaha. The only serious source of informations for LL is slapt.me.

They learn there much about the AC-Project. I think some of the more average Lindens learned there the first time, that the plan exists, hahaha.

Blondin points often on slapt.me and provided datas and KB translations there...

And for to get news just in time, he sits in every available protesters group.

I have a feeling that the whole Lab is watching slapt.me, since it is somehow clear, that Linden Lab has no fitting intern communication structures and no clear hierarchies and also no idea about what is going on in customers and on the grid.

From a customer point of view is this all not normal.

A thing like slapt.me should be made by LL itself, to hold the community informed, but this all is a hint about the direction their whole long term plans will move: into the abyss. It wouldn't be the first time.

They have no idea how to start anything correct and smart. They will miss their famous and more or less hidden "goals" dramatically, is my impression/speculation and last but not least: my hope.

Cyn said, millions of people will now join SL and thousands of whatever organisations.

Now, I am curious. I can't await the masses marching in, Hahaha.

2010 will tell us the truth. :D

I expect no run into SL. Just biz as usual on a much lower freedom level and a much higher boredom level.


As soon as the adult fiasco is over I will work with the other admins to allow the slapt.me wiki to grow into other areas regarding SL as it has been shown that it is a much needed independent resource for people. Hopefully I would like to see it develop into a general reference point and also a place where these sort of situations can be documented in the future.

I think the wiki has shown there is a much needed call for it and I hope that this is just the beginning for the slapt.me wiki :)
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07-24-2009 01:56
From: Brieanne Bomazi
I noticed on another blog they are ending support for lower viewer numbers on August 5th, so i am curious if that will be the *cut off* day for flagging adult?
I guess August 5th is the last day I'll be using the LL viewer. I normally start following the RC when the reports on the RC are that it's good enough to use. That never happened for 1.23, and I've been holding out for 1.24.
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07-24-2009 02:47
"Hello!

Since you have used our support system, we are asking you to help us
improve the support experience in Second Life. If you could spare us
about 5 minutes of your time to fill out the survey found at the link
below, we would be most grateful.

http://support.secondlife.com/ics/survey/survey.asp?deptID=4417&surveyID=1535

Don't worry, we won't publish any of these results publicly, except in
a purely anonymous fashion (percentages or graphs).

Thank you very much for your time and for helping us improve support
in Second Life.

Cyn Skyberg
VP Customer Relations
Linden Lab
Ticket Information:"



Oh, so THIS is what she does! This is what she has spent the last 5 months doing.


Tsk tsk, Boy, do *I* have some ideas for feedback. Can anyone read my mind and guess what number 1 would be?
Couldbe Yue
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07-24-2009 03:25
From: Lord Sullivan
From my email headers

Delivery-date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:49:46 +0200

I am the landowner and the group owner although the group does not own any adult land anymore on the mainland



so if Wynochee saw the motd at 3pm slt and that email looks like it went out at the same time then it wasn't even 24 hr notice they gave. Don't the applications close at 10am slt today?

Which means those who think they can do this when they get home from work may be in for a bit of a nasty shock.

Assuming they saw the email before they went to work today and realise what needs to be done. If they didn't and they go out after work...

Considering how many people haven't swooped in here going "wtf???" I do wonder..
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