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Rioko Bamaisin
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07-13-2009 09:48
From: Nika Talaj Yeah. *nods sadly*
When my Dad died (suddenly and unexpectedly), my Mom was very matter-of-fact. Indeed, her largest voiced concern was in the vein of housekeeping - it was for some reason very important that my brother go through Dad's clothing immediately and take what he wanted out of the house. As if Vikings were arriving to pillage Dad's closet the next day.
Denial is a weird weird thing.
Grief came later. . My Ex MIL did the same thing when my FIL died. She packed up all his things before the funeral and had her kids pick up things they wanted. She was like almost on auto pilot through the whole week. It took a couple of months for grief to set in for her. She is one of those people who have to be in control at all times. One day she just broke down and went into a deep depression. She is a lot better now but on anti depressants and still has some pretty bad days a year later.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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07-13-2009 09:54
From: Brenda Connolly This is going to sound cold, but there is this thing that it somehow matters if you know a loved one has passed away immediately. A couple of times I have been in that situation where I have been out of contact, and when learning the news a few hours later, accompanied by the hand wringing from the person delivering it, have always asked, gently "Does my knowing it then or now make any difference? They are just as dead." Over time, I've really changed the way I think about how we treat death. In so many ways we respond so selfishly, as if we have to make a public grief show in order to validate our feelings for the person. And don't get me started on the Business of Death.  Oh, they were banging on my door at 3 am because they were driving down to the grandparents house. And I was on the way, about 2 hours south of them, and the grandparents house is a further 2 or 3 hours south of me at the time. I think, in a way, it was because I didn't answer the phone that they stopped, rather than they were going to stop anyway. Since you learn that someone has died, you attempt to contact someone else and can't . . well, you can begin to panic.
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Brenda Connolly
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07-13-2009 09:55
There is an old joke about a guy who out of the country and cals his brother. Right off the bat, the brother says "I have bad news, your cat died"
The brother tells him he shouldn't just blurt out news like that, but gradually work into it: "Tell me 'The cat was out on the roof and wouldn't come down. We had to call the fire department to come get him. While coming down the ladder, the fireman slipped and fell, and he landed on the cat and accientally killed him'. Something like that".
The other brother agrees.
"So, how's Mom? "
"Well, Mom was out on the roof and wouldn't come down....."
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07-13-2009 09:56
From: Tex Nasworthy LOL I keep those changed on a regular basis, just like mom taught me. Just in case I get in an accident, ya know.  Yeah, but how do you define *regular basis*? 
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07-13-2009 09:56
With my family, I rarely hear of a death until long after the funeral. My mother always seems to go with the idea that there is no need because I probably wouldn't be able to come anyway. I gave up complaining about it.
With my wife's family, I usually know about it immediately as being a nurse, she usually has some involvement with what is going on no matter whether the person lives.
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Rioko Bamaisin
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07-13-2009 09:56
God I am a horrible person for laughing at that. Damn you Brenda. 
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Lexxi Gynoid
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07-13-2009 09:57
From: Brenda Connolly Another lost sister? Amara, can you help me out on this?
Wait, but I was going to ask Rio if she wanted to............EWWWWWWWW!
Now you know how I felt when I put two and two together and realized that Mistress called a certain other person sis, and that person called me sis. I've completely blocked that issue from my mind by repeatedly noting it on forums. Wait . . . I don't think it works that way . . .
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Love Hastings
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07-13-2009 10:00
From: Lexxi Gynoid Now you know how I felt when I put two and two together and realized that Mistress called a certain other person sis, and that person called me sis.
Well, I've since solved that issue for you. Or perhaps I've made it worse? 
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07-13-2009 10:06
From: Jerboa Haystack Yep. Obama's a guy.
Sarkozy is..well...Sarkozy. *chuckles*
His wife is a smoke show... 
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Lexxi Gynoid
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07-13-2009 10:08
From: Love Hastings Well, I've since solved that issue for you. Or perhaps I've made it worse?  Well, she still calls me sis. I do not recall if I've heard Mistress mention her as sis since the change in circumstances, but I think I have. I'm back to that other day when I was mentioning in group chat about James Earl Jones, Mr. T. and a third fella who I can't recall now. I believe they were elephants crawling on the ceiling, with . . . oh, the other fella was Sean Connery . . the elephants were crawlling across the ceiling and Mr. T. kept saying that he pitied the fool who didn't blow into his trunk, with Sean noting that Mr. T. is supposed to use the trunk to trumpet, to blow out of, not have someone blow into; and Jones kept saying "Lexxi I'm your fater . . Lexxi . . . father . . " It is only related in the "here's my brother Darryl, and my sister Sally, who are also my step father and my mother, and I think the squirrel there is my brother also, but I've become confused on our family relations" way.
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Eli Schlegal
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07-13-2009 10:10
From: Lexxi Gynoid Well, she still calls me sis. I do not recall if I've heard Mistress mention her as sis since the change in circumstances, but I think I have.
I'm back to that other day when I was mentioning in group chat about James Earl Jones, Mr. T. and a third fella who I can't recall now. I believe they were elephants crawling on the ceiling, with . . . oh, the other fella was Sean Connery . . the elephants were crawlling across the ceiling and Mr. T. kept saying that he pitied the fool who didn't blow into his trunk, with Sean noting that Mr. T. is supposed to use the trunk to trumpet, to blow out of, not have someone blow into; and Jones kept saying "Lexxi I'm your fater . . Lexxi . . . father . . "
It is only related in the "here's my brother Darryl, and my sister Sally, who are also my step father and my mother, and I think the squirrel there is my brother also, but I've become confused on our family relations" way. Okay... pass the bong this way plz.
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Seven Okelli
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07-13-2009 10:11
Am I the only one who noticed that these posts followed each other? From: 3Ring Binder today's mission - spank that luscious ass. 
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07-13-2009 10:12
From: Seven Okelli Am I the only one who noticed that these posts followed each other? Oh, I thought Eli posted that picture in response to that other post.
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Seven Okelli
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07-13-2009 10:14
From: Lexxi Gynoid Oh, I thought Eli posted that picture in response to that other post. Good point. .
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07-13-2009 10:20
From: Seven Okelli Am I the only one who noticed that these posts followed each other? I think mine's better , actually. 
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07-13-2009 10:22
From: Brenda Connolly I think mine's better , actually.  Well, yeah. You could sell that picture. .
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Madhu Maruti
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07-13-2009 10:25
From: Nika Talaj Just do what you did, comfort your mother and let her comfort you. No matter what your mom said, it's quite possible that the call came out of her own upset, rather than her feeling that YOU had to know immediately.
Death happens every day, but some lucky people go for years and years without having a death in the family, and it hits such folks particularly hard. I've come to expect a little extreme behavior from both friends and family at such times. . Nika said this more concisely and less sanctimoniously than I did. *hugs* all around.
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07-13-2009 10:25
http://www.strapya-world.com/categories/2789_4820.htmlI can now read my shushi maker thng and even order it - Eek- the price- think i will stick to the tradition bamboo mat thing i have been usign up to now...
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Brenda Connolly
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07-13-2009 10:28
From: Madhu Maruti One thing you could do at 4 AM 100 miles away is be there on the other end of the line for your mom, who (I presume) had just lost her sister. Like I said to Brenda, the desire for immediate notification can be as much about the notifier as it is about the notified. Sometimes the shock of losing someone is great and you just want to reach out and hear a comforting voice. Even if the caller can't put that feeling into words, it may be an important underlying part of the need to reach someone right away.
I'm sorry that you had your sleep disturbed for news you feel you could have waited a few hours for, but please consider the possibility that it wasn't just about notifying you.
Obviously I know nothing about your mother, her relationship with your aunt, or the specifics of this situation, so it's entirely possible that none of the above applies. But still, I guess I'm just a little shocked to see comments like this, that don't seem to show much compassion for what the people doing the calling may be feeling at the time. I know that both of you, Brenda and Rioko, are nicer than these comments sound. I really hope I would never begrudge a 4 AM phone call from someone who had just lost a family member, even if the person who died wasn't someone I knew at all. I don't begrudge the person who needs to make the call, if it makes them feel bettr, than I am glad to take it. But if I am not there to take the call, there is no need to call out the Marines in an attempt to find me and notify me. Leave a message, send an email, I'll get it when I get it. Like I said, it's just how I deal with it, shaped by my experiences. I don't claim that everyone should do the same.
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07-13-2009 10:32
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07-13-2009 10:34
From: Amaranthim Talon Good Morning Thread Peeps - super party last night- lots of chair dancing for  - Thanks to Gabrielle fro supplying the lovely venue - I was glad to see from the great pix Lil took - tha tmost of us chose a dark style to attnd in  Thanks to Big Dog who provided some awesome tunes and who eve knew to get him- he soo rocked. And thanks to Lil for being rezzed  OOOH, I'm so mad at myself right now! I really wanted to come to the party but forgot completely! Glad you all had a great time though..
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Rioko Bamaisin
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07-13-2009 10:35
ROFL excellent Skell.  Did you sort it all out? 
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07-13-2009 10:38
Er, no. I spent about three hours putting that comic together instead. This... *dramatic pause* ... is just the beginning. (Of a major panic attack, I suspect  )
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07-13-2009 10:39
From: LittleMe Jewell Yeah, but how do you define *regular basis*?  I was wondering if the phrase "regular basis" was going to draw a response. I'll amend that to say "very regular basis", but I'm not posting a schedule. 
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07-13-2009 10:43
From: Lexxi Gynoid It is only related in the "here's my brother Darryl, and my sister Sally, who are also my step father and my mother, and I think the squirrel there is my brother also, but I've become confused on our family relations" way.
/me thinks it might once again be time to find the lyrics to "I'm My Own Granpa".
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