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Brenda Connolly
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06-29-2009 08:03
Damn you Eli, you made Boomer run screaming from the room!!!
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Rhonda Huntress
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06-29-2009 08:04
Hi Rhonda... Where's our question of the day? A friend of a friend has invited you to a party. It is supposed to be a big celebration. At the party you learn that the reason for the big production is that a small not for profit organization has developed the perfect robotic system. It can read a book to learn job tasks, including how to repair other robots and design new ones as needed. All the robots will be linked together and the decisions of what to make next or what job is most important to be completed is done collectively. The organization predicts that in 10 years there will be no need for human workers at all. Food, shelter, transportation, energy production and distribution of all these and more will be completely automated by the robotic systems. Humans will be free to explore their creative, artistic and athletic goals without the need for anything. Would this be utopia or dystopia? And would there be any caveats you would demand to be put in place; something like humans should be allowed to work if they wanted? Actually, I have often wondered what the transition phase of something like this would be. I would think panic and chaos as the need for a monetary system erodes away and the roles of politics and power lose their teeth. Wow, that got long for a conversational question. Too much for a Monday? |
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Love Hastings
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06-29-2009 08:07
A friend of a friend has invited you to a party. It is supposed to be a big celebration. At the party you learn that the reason for the big production is that a small not for profit organization has developed the perfect robotic system. It can read a book to learn job tasks, including how to repair other robots and design new ones as needed. All the robots will be linked together and the decisions of what to make next or what job is most important to be completed is done collectively. The organization predicts that in 10 years there will be no need for human workers at all. Food, shelter, transportation, energy production and distribution of all these and more will be completely automated by the robotic systems. Humans will be free to explore their creative, artistic and athletic goals without the need for anything. Would this be utopia or dystopia? And would there be any caveats you would demand to be put in place; something like humans should be allowed to work if they wanted? Actually, I have often wondered what the transition phase of something like this would be. I would think panic and chaos as the need for a monetary system erodes away and the roles of politics and power lose their teeth. Wow, that got long for a conversational question. Too much for a Monday? I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords. _____________________
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Amaranthim Talon
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06-29-2009 08:08
Too much for one Thead
 A long thought of topic in various scifi novels with end results in both extremes. Personally I wd hope for creativity as a reward in the end but am afraid I do not have that much faith in mankind- i imagine we wd wither or waste away. I think we need the chaos of our lives to keep from stagnation- i think we need to work and strive and not have anything handed to us. To be given a thing is not to appreciate it- we wd be temperamental children and dependant and society wd crumble - think the eloy in Time Machine- _____________________
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Pserendipity Daniels
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06-29-2009 08:09
A friend of a friend has invited you to a party. It is supposed to be a big celebration. At the party you learn that the reason for the big production is that a small not for profit organization has developed the perfect robotic system. It can read a book to learn job tasks, including how to repair other robots and design new ones as needed. All the robots will be linked together and the decisions of what to make next or what job is most important to be completed is done collectively. The organization predicts that in 10 years there will be no need for human workers at all. Food, shelter, transportation, energy production and distribution of all these and more will be completely automated by the robotic systems. Humans will be free to explore their creative, artistic and athletic goals without the need for anything. Would this be utopia or dystopia? And would there be any caveats you would demand to be put in place; something like humans should be allowed to work if they wanted? Actually, I have often wondered what the transition phase of something like this would be. I would think panic and chaos as the need for a monetary system erodes away and the roles of politics and power lose their teeth. Wow, that got long for a conversational question. Too much for a Monday? I would drink as much of their booze as possible so I could get as delusional as those holding the party and before the men in the white coats (or the SEC) came to take the management away and closed the party down.  Pep (has been to several launch parties like that in his time; it always ends in tears.) PS Just in case, I might invest in whoever makes TV remotes. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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06-29-2009 08:09
Dystopia, at least for me. Humans need adversity to overcome, things to strive for and sometimes, fail at. Success should be the product of hard work and perseverance. It's much more enjoyable.
Or what Pep said. _____________________
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Amaranthim Talon
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06-29-2009 08:09
And just cause some might have missed it- /327/04/327948/1.html
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Seven Okelli
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06-29-2009 08:09
A friend of a friend has invited you to a party. It is supposed to be a big celebration. At the party you learn that the reason for the big production is that a small not for profit organization has developed the perfect robotic system. It can read a book to learn job tasks, including how to repair other robots and design new ones as needed. All the robots will be linked together and the decisions of what to make next or what job is most important to be completed is done collectively. The organization predicts that in 10 years there will be no need for human workers at all. Food, shelter, transportation, energy production and distribution of all these and more will be completely automated by the robotic systems. Humans will be free to explore their creative, artistic and athletic goals without the need for anything. Would this be utopia or dystopia? And would there be any caveats you would demand to be put in place; something like humans should be allowed to work if they wanted? Actually, I have often wondered what the transition phase of something like this would be. I would think panic and chaos as the need for a monetary system erodes away and the roles of politics and power lose their teeth. Wow, that got long for a conversational question. Too much for a Monday? They tried that at Rossum's Universal Robots - it didn't work out. The robots started to have emotions. Then they started pestering Pep. . _____________________
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Amaranthim Talon
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06-29-2009 08:09
Dystopia, at least for me. Humans need adversity to overcome, things to strive for and sometimes, fail at. Success should be the product of hard work and perseverance. It's much more enjoyable. Did i tell you yet this morning that i love you? /me smiles _____________________
"Yield to temptation. It may not pass your way again. "
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Eli Schlegal
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06-29-2009 08:10
A friend of a friend has invited you to a party. It is supposed to be a big celebration. At the party you learn that the reason for the big production is that a small not for profit organization has developed the perfect robotic system. It can read a book to learn job tasks, including how to repair other robots and design new ones as needed. All the robots will be linked together and the decisions of what to make next or what job is most important to be completed is done collectively. The organization predicts that in 10 years there will be no need for human workers at all. Food, shelter, transportation, energy production and distribution of all these and more will be completely automated by the robotic systems. Humans will be free to explore their creative, artistic and athletic goals without the need for anything. Would this be utopia or dystopia? And would there be any caveats you would demand to be put in place; something like humans should be allowed to work if they wanted? Actually, I have often wondered what the transition phase of something like this would be. I would think panic and chaos as the need for a monetary system erodes away and the roles of politics and power lose their teeth. Wow, that got long for a conversational question. Too much for a Monday? I would murder the mastemind behind the robots... unless. of course, he knew how to make me taste like guacamole, in which case I would spare his life. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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06-29-2009 08:10
They tried that at Rossum's Universal Robots - it didn't work out. The robots started to have emotions. Then they started pestering Pep. . Yay! I loved that story. But the version I read didn't have Pep in it. Has it been updated? _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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06-29-2009 08:11
Did i tell you yet this morning that i love you? /me smiles It's still always nice to hear. _____________________
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Rhonda Huntress
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06-29-2009 08:14
Yes, yes. I must be punished. /me holds his pinky up to the corner of his mouth and smiles. Well, there is playful punishment, corrective punishment and the punishment where *I* get to play. Just how far do you want to go? |
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Pserendipity Daniels
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06-29-2009 08:15
They tried that at Rossum's Universal Robots - it didn't work out. The robots started to have emotions. Then they started pestering Pep. . Star Trek jumped the shark when Data got that emotion chip. Pep (Emotions are fine. Using them as the basis for argument is not.) _____________________
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Eli Schlegal
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06-29-2009 08:16
Well, there is playful punishment, corrective punishment and the punishment where *I* get to play. Just how far do you want to go? Well... hmm. I think it should be fun for both of us... so... I'll go with door #3. _____________________
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Pserendipity Daniels
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06-29-2009 08:18
Yay! I loved that story. But the version I read didn't have Pep in it. Has it been updated? Heavily disguised! Spencer Tracy played my role in the US dramatisation. Pep (I *was* the Vogon Spaceship Captain in H2G2, as I never tire of reminding you all.  )_____________________
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Rhonda Huntress
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06-29-2009 08:25
Thanks for the quick replies. As I thought about it and read what you all said, the thought came to me that we are a social animal. Our work is a big part of social interaction, not just with our co-workers but in that whatever we do for work. Even if it is pushing a broom, someone else gets the benefit of what we do. I always thought that society would change and adapt, but now I am not so sure. Society might just cease to function.
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Seven Okelli
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06-29-2009 08:27
Star Trek jumped the shark when Data got that emotion chip. Pep (Emotions are fine. Using them as the basis for argument is not.) Point taken. I should have said they started to argue with you. or try to, anyway. . _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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06-29-2009 08:28
Well, there is playful punishment, corrective punishment and the punishment where *I* get to play. Just how far do you want to go? Is that question soley directed at Eli? _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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06-29-2009 08:30
Star Trek jumped the shark when Data got that emotion chip. Agreed. But it was fun seeing him say "Oh Shit!" in "Generations" _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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06-29-2009 08:35
I know silks was already the theme of the day here, but I was cleaning out my inventory, which has topped 10K for the first time, no doubt due to the $5,000L I spent at 1-800- Betty's yesterday, and I found this. It was a gift, never worn, and the closest thing I have to silks. I wish I would have remembered it the day of Cee and Litta's party:
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Rhonda Huntress
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06-29-2009 08:36
Is that question soley directed at Eli? /me grins. You do not get to choose, sweetie, you get to endure. |
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Eli Schlegal
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06-29-2009 08:37
I know silks was already the theme of the day here, but I was cleaning out my inventory, which has topped 10K for the first time, no doubt due to the $5,000L I spent at 1-800- Betty's yesterday, and I found this. It was a gift, never worn, and the closest thing I have to silks. I wish I would have remembered it the day of Cee and Litta's party: Umm.... Uh.... Hm... I'm really at a loss for words. What can I say besides... Holy Guacamole _____________________
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Rhonda Huntress
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06-29-2009 08:38
Pretty, pretty girl. |
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Seven Okelli
last days of pompeii
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06-29-2009 08:46
Didn't Data fall in love with the Borg Queen?
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