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Lexxi Gynoid
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05-22-2009 10:28
From: Treasure Ballinger It's nice, in my opinion to have the choice because I use it 2 seperate ways. Sometimes on wall (then framed would be nice) sometimes on easel (unframed in that case). But you said that the frame you made, would frame the painting, on request, right? So if I bought one like that, then decided to use the painting on an easel, I wouldn't be forced to rez the frame out, right? So could have it or not have it. So yeah the frame would be nice to have there if I needed it. I can sell the art two ways, well three - (1) sold with frame; (2) sold without frame; or (3) put up both versions for sale. (a fourth way would to sell both versions, though I'd probably revisit price if I did that; and there is the added consideration that I tend to use the brazilian texture for the frame and set the frame to the smallest setting so more of my picture shows - that texture might clash, and or the customer might wish a different sized frame). I have a free frame wizard I picked up that is a script. I put it into the prim and play with the menu. I can have different sized frames, different texture frames, etc. I then press "finished" and the picture is now framed. No new prims were made, no new prims are added, picture is still 1 prim. Script removes itself, deletes itself, after it is finalized. I cannot sell the picture with the frame wizard preinstalled because of the way it works. 9 times out of ten, I hit the "prepare" or whatever button it is that starts the process, and it wipes my texture and I have to readd it. A purchaser would then find themselve with framed art that consists of a picture of plywood. heh. Hehe - I'm not very good at describing things. Better at showing.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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05-22-2009 10:29
From: Jerboa Haystack  A Spartan Sandwich? Was it something like two slices of bread, a piece of lettuce, and a very thin sliver of ham? or   No idea why it was called Spartan. It was roast beef, sweet peppers, feta cheese (ah, Greek), and a bunch of other stuff. From a Greek cafe.
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05-22-2009 10:33
From: Chris Norse Compared to the current and previous occupants of the Oval Office, Nixon doesn't look that bad. Can't argue there.
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05-22-2009 10:47
From: Lexxi Gynoid I can sell the art two ways, well three - (1) sold with frame; (2) sold without frame; or (3) put up both versions for sale. (a fourth way would to sell both versions, though I'd probably revisit price if I did that; and there is the added consideration that I tend to use the brazilian texture for the frame and set the frame to the smallest setting so more of my picture shows - that texture might clash, and or the customer might wish a different sized frame).
I have a free frame wizard I picked up that is a script. I put it into the prim and play with the menu. I can have different sized frames, different texture frames, etc. I then press "finished" and the picture is now framed. No new prims were made, no new prims are added, picture is still 1 prim. Script removes itself, deletes itself, after it is finalized.
I cannot sell the picture with the frame wizard preinstalled because of the way it works. 9 times out of ten, I hit the "prepare" or whatever button it is that starts the process, and it wipes my texture and I have to readd it. A purchaser would then find themselve with framed art that consists of a picture of plywood. heh.
Hehe - I'm not very good at describing things. Better at showing. No, I understand what you said. It's just that with that description, now, I really can't answer the original question, as to preference. If majority rules, then I'd have to say framed. I use more art on the walls, where I like it framed, than on easels, where I don't like it framed.
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05-22-2009 10:50
From: Amaranthim Talon Merely an ALTercation  Assumed as much.
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05-22-2009 10:59
From: Lexxi Gynoid It came from the fact every time I enter this thread I see that first message. Because most of the "message" part of the message has been replaced with one or few sentence, the large signature block about your business takes up most of the room. Which made me think. Since it already kind of looks like an advertisement for your business, I would not be annoyed, angry, disappointed, whichever word goes here, if it actually is turned into an advertisement. you can turn sigs off so you do not see that part (and my sig, much like others, has a single link to my store, a quote and a remark) The body of the first post was very simple before the edit... actually probably less than the edit has now I am not gonna make it into an ad, and I am sorry if my sig makes it look that way (I tend to change my sig from time to time, for awhile it had no link to the store... did it still look like an ad then?)
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05-22-2009 11:04
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Seven Okelli
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05-22-2009 11:09
Okay, I admit I was thinking of Cato the Middle Child. .
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Lexxi Gynoid
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05-22-2009 11:10
From: Treasure Ballinger No, I understand what you said. It's just that with that description, now, I really can't answer the original question, as to preference. If majority rules, then I'd have to say framed. I use more art on the walls, where I like it framed, than on easels, where I don't like it framed. If we are ever in world at the same time, I'll toss in the frame wizard into the art you bought and I can show you the options, then set and pass over framed versions. One reason I do not have both versions up, framed and unframed, for all but one artwork, is the simple fact that I still don't have all my art up, and I have it spread across two galleries at the moment. Granted I took down the abstract and didn't put anything up in its place at both galleries, so the walls have more bare surfaces now. And Cherry park gallery has bare floor now also (I had set up a 1 prim essel and and two rows of art on the floor).
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Lexxi Gynoid
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05-22-2009 11:12
From: Seven Okelli Okay, I admit I was thinking of Cato the Middle Child.
. I was thinking of Kato Kaelin
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05-22-2009 11:18
I was thinking of Kate O'Mara.  Pep (Triangle!)
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05-22-2009 11:19
hey your PM's are full.. need to talk to you a minute... can you reach me somehow i am online
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05-22-2009 11:23
Fling those gladi's! Morrissey turned 50 today. The man who turned misery into an artform and headed one of the most influential bands of the 80s, and who is still a damn fine songwriter.  ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/skelldagger/3554845666/sizes/l/) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5DE8UQnM5Y( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5DE8UQnM5Y)
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05-22-2009 11:33
From: Seven Okelli Probably not the first to notice but it's ironic when moralists choose names from ancient Greece and Rome.
. I noticed that too, but the Roman Cato really was a moralist.
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05-22-2009 11:34
From: Lexxi Gynoid I was thinking of Kato Kaelin /me screams with laughter Isn't there an institute named after him? From: Pserendipity Daniels I was thinking of Kate O'Mara.  Pep (Triangle!) hehehehe .
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05-22-2009 11:47
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05-22-2009 11:53
From: JamesMichael Morane I noticed that too, but the Roman Cato really was a moralist. I would like to say that that was ironic, too. but I won't. .
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05-22-2009 12:11
I always thought Cato was this guy... 
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05-22-2009 12:22
From: Lexxi Gynoid I can sell the art two ways, well three - (1) sold with frame; (2) sold without frame; or (3) put up both versions for sale. (a fourth way would to sell both versions, though I'd probably revisit price if I did that; and there is the added consideration that I tend to use the brazilian texture for the frame and set the frame to the smallest setting so more of my picture shows - that texture might clash, and or the customer might wish a different sized frame). Lexxi, since you sell the prim directly (as opposed to using a vendor) why don't you put the framed version on the wall, framed as you think best, and put a no copy/no mod/no transfer unframed copy inside it? I think I could write you a script which delivers the inner painting if the owner clicks the outer painting, and then deletes itself. The purchaser would have two copies, but what are they going to do? Hang them side by side?
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Seven Okelli
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05-22-2009 12:34
not to be a buttinsky, but why not display the framed one with its price and a little plain box nearby that just says "UNFRAMED" with another price?
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Lexxi Gynoid
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05-22-2009 12:50
From: Seven Okelli not to be a buttinsky, but why not display the framed one with its price and a little plain box nearby that just says "UNFRAMED" with another price?
. I do not have enough prim room to put up all my art as it is, at the moment. That is the issue.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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05-22-2009 12:55
From: Love Hastings Lexxi, since you sell the prim directly (as opposed to using a vendor) why don't you put the framed version on the wall, framed as you think best, and put a no copy/no mod/no transfer unframed copy inside it? I think I could write you a script which delivers the inner painting if the owner clicks the outer painting, and then deletes itself. The purchaser would have two copies, but what are they going to do? Hang them side by side? I do not understand the suggestion. Personally I prefer unframed, heh. And there are frame shops in SL. A problem is that I do not know what is the best framing. If someone has a gold theme going in their dwelling unit, the gold texture would be the best frame. If they have some form of wood theme going, one of the wood textures would work best, but which one? I like having my work being transfer on the off chance someone might think that they would wish to sell or pass along the work. I have it mod so they can adjust to fit wall as they desire.
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05-22-2009 13:19
From: Lexxi Gynoid I do not understand the suggestion. It was ill-conceived. There's no need for a script or the no-mod restriction. The idea is to make the painting (with or without a border) contain another painting (with the other choice). I didn't really think about the framing aspect as matching the decor. In RL, frames are more often chosen to complement the painting. You can always put it somewhere else, but re-framing isn't cheap.
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05-22-2009 13:29
We interrupt the art discussion for more puppy pics, from yesteday at the lake:  
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05-22-2009 13:30
From: Brenda Connolly We interrupt the art discussion for more puppy pics, from yesteday at the lake:   yay Brenda! I really needed a nice picture.
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