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Yiffy Yaffle
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07-27-2007 10:15
From: Michael Bigwig
I don't get it. So, if they ban sex in SL, there's no hope left? Is that all you guys see in SL? Gambling and sex?

If you even bother to read any of my past posts on these forums you would know that not to be true about me... Don't assume things your not sure about. Hell if you want to check up on me to make sure of this, by all means do so...
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Archer Braun
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07-27-2007 10:18
From: Michael Bigwig

My studio is on Silicon Island--on the entire island, you won't find ONE thing related to sex. I think there are around 30 businesses that have offices here...not one is in the sex industry.


Betcha they're sneaking out and finding their jollies in New Hong Kong...much joy!...and three lucky fish!
SqueezeOne Pow
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07-27-2007 10:21
From: Michael Bigwig
You're just being difficult Colette. I think I made my point crystal clear.


Save your key strokes, Mike. I've dealt with her. She's not interested in seeing other points of view other than her own. That's why she deflects it with that kind of rhetoric and dissection instead of responding to the actual point.

People like her aren't interested in freedom but rather in being victims. That's why they stay in SL despite how "oppressive" and "wrong" LL is in their eyes.
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Michael Bigwig
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07-27-2007 10:24
From: Yiffy Yaffle
If you even bother to read any of my past posts on these forums you would know that not to be true about me... Don't assume things your not sure about. Hell if you want to check up on me to make sure of this, by all means do so...


I read ALL the posts in this thread. I came to a general conclusion, and posted--it was not an assumption. Should I do a background check on people I quote? Your previous post stated your belief, plain as day. How else am I to comment on your comment?

This forum is a slippery slope.
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Nina Stepford
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07-27-2007 10:27
its no wonder. have you read the covenant?


"ETHICS & MORAL CONTENT
Silicon Island is a PG island. All residents and their guests and clients are expected respect the PG status of the island as noted by the LL TOS. The following will cause your objects to be reclaimed with no refund of your rental payments, and you will be ejected and/or banned from the island.

We do not allow Slave practitioners, Goreans, Satanic Groups, Offensive Weapons Manufactures (Defensive Weapons Only), or the Sex Industry to reside or visit here. All Residents’ products or services must be of Neutral Status or of a Moral Status, and their projects or companies they work with must be the same. "Adult" or "Mature" content is prohibited."
From: Michael Bigwig
You're just being difficult Colette. I think I made my point crystal clear.

The last thing I'll say about this sex thing is...

My studio is on Silicon Island--on the entire island, you won't find ONE thing related to sex. I think there are around 30 businesses that have offices here...not one is in the sex industry.

And playing the ultimate-sex-connection-game isn't fooling anybody with half a brain. Yes sex sells, I know that...but making blurry connections based on evolution and instinct is far from the point.
Nina Stepford
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07-27-2007 10:28
who are u calling a slippery slope u racist.
From: Michael Bigwig
Nice assumption jerk. I read ALL the posts. I came to a general conclusion, and posted--it was not an assumption. Your previous post stated your belief, plain as day. How else am I to comment on your comment?

This forum is a slippery slope.
Michael Bigwig
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07-27-2007 10:30
From: Nina Stepford
its no wonder. have you read the covenant?


"ETHICS & MORAL CONTENT
Silicon Island is a PG island. All residents and their guests and clients are expected respect the PG status of the island as noted by the LL TOS. The following will cause your objects to be reclaimed with no refund of your rental payments, and you will be ejected and/or banned from the island.

We do not allow Slave practitioners, Goreans, Satanic Groups, Offensive Weapons Manufactures (Defensive Weapons Only), or the Sex Industry to reside or visit here. All Residents’ products or services must be of Neutral Status or of a Moral Status, and their projects or companies they work with must be the same. "Adult" or "Mature" content is prohibited."



Thank you, I hope you meant to strengthen my argument. It only proves my point that there are entire islands with this mentality. Of course in their eyes, the entire island is secretly run for the purpose of the land owner to make money, and get laid.

:)
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Colette Meiji
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07-27-2007 10:30
From: Michael Bigwig
You're just being difficult Colette. I think I made my point crystal clear.

The last thing I'll say about this sex thing is...

My studio is on Silicon Island--on the entire island, you won't find ONE thing related to sex. I think there are around 30 businesses that have offices here...not one is in the sex industry.

And playing the ultimate-sex-connection-game isn't fooling anybody with half a brain. Yes sex sells, I know that...but making blurry connections based on evolution and instinct is far from the point.


look mr Bigwig -

You are the first one to resort to direct insults in any of these threads when your statements are challenged.

You already have said were insane and now your are implying that I have only half a brain. While I have only made comments related to what you say.

Meanwhile you accuse me and others of being mean to you.

Save it.

Im not being difficult to be difficult - Im saying sex is often a consideration in most of the products in second life. Its a derivitive of the fact that SL residents have virtual relationships online. A lot of people do. Probably Most people do.

You ignoring that fact doesnt change it.

Your island having nothing to do with sex does not change it either - theres thousands of sims. Your island is a tiny fraction of a percentage of those availible.
Yiffy Yaffle
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07-27-2007 10:31
From: Michael Bigwig
I read ALL the posts in this thread. I came to a general conclusion, and posted--it was not an assumption. Should I do a background check on people I quote? Your previous post stated your belief, plain as day. How else am I to comment on your comment?

This forum is a slippery slope.

Well if thats how you want to play it then i will assume your a forum troll. :)

Anyway i do not believe all that there is to do in SL is sex and gamble. i don't like gambling and i only have sex with my mate. Most of the time i am scripting/building expressing y vivid imagination in a colorful world thank you very much.
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07-27-2007 10:31
From: Nina Stepford
who are u calling a slippery slope u racist.



Racist? Where have I been racist? I will, however, call you ignorant.
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Michael Bigwig
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07-27-2007 10:32
From: Yiffy Yaffle
Well if thats how you want to play it then i will assume your a forum troll. :)

Anyway i do not believe all that there is to do in SL is sex and gamble. i don't like gambling and i only have sex with my mate. Most of the time i am scripting/building expressing y vivid imagination in a colorful world thank you very much.



I'd like to thank a handful of you for showing me the light. No wonder not many true citizens come and post on these forums. I was warned in world...now their comments are validated.

I'm not a troll. I speak my mind, and I do it as diplomatically as the situation calls for.
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Colette Meiji
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07-27-2007 10:35
From: Michael Bigwig
Thank you, I hope you meant to strengthen my argument. It only proves my point that there are entire islands with this mentality. Of course in their eyes, the entire island is secretly run for the purpose of the land owner to make money, and get laid.

:)


Proves what point?

That on your island where you forbid sexual activitiies that there are no sexual activities.

This is somehow surprizing?

Do you not even see her point?
Yiffy Yaffle
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07-27-2007 10:35
My opinion about how banning sex would ruin SL is based that sex is a natural part of life, and to revoke peoples right to do something that comes natural to all living things, is just unsound.
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Colette Meiji
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07-27-2007 10:36
From: SqueezeOne Pow
Save your key strokes, Mike. I've dealt with her. She's not interested in seeing other points of view other than her own. That's why she deflects it with that kind of rhetoric and dissection instead of responding to the actual point.

People like her aren't interested in freedom but rather in being victims. That's why they stay in SL despite how "oppressive" and "wrong" LL is in their eyes.


:rolleyes:
SqueezeOne Pow
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07-27-2007 10:39
From: Michael Bigwig
I'm not a troll. I speak my mind, and I do it as diplomatically as the situation calls for.


Silly Mike! You're a troll when you have a different opinion than the louder people who decide the status quo of the thread and even the forums!

I thought you would have seen that by now! ;)

And see what I meant about Colette? She has her own "Jump to Conclusions" mat! (office space).
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Ann Launay
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07-27-2007 10:40
From: SqueezeOne Pow
Save your key strokes, Mike. I've dealt with her. She's not interested in seeing other points of view other than her own. That's why she deflects it with that kind of rhetoric and dissection instead of responding to the actual point.

People like her aren't interested in freedom but rather in being victims. That's why they stay in SL despite how "oppressive" and "wrong" LL is in their eyes.


Whoa, who are you talking about? :eek: I only know Colette from the forums but I don't get that impression of her in any way. She stands up for herself and her opinions, sure, but you do the same for yourself. I've never seen ANY evidence that she's close minded; in fact, she seems quite open to new experiences and the whole concept of live and let live.
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Yiffy Yaffle
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07-27-2007 10:41
I used the term TROLL because he assumed i was something i wasn't. i was giving him a taste of his own medicine.
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Nina Stepford
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07-27-2007 10:43
i was just standing in front of you at your shop and you said nothing.
From: Michael Bigwig
Racist? Where have I been racist? I will, however, call you ignorant.
Nina Stepford
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07-27-2007 10:44
ok do you have any sweet words for me now?
From: Ann Launay
Whoa, who are you talking about? :eek: I only know Colette from the forums but I don't get that impression of her in any way. She stands up for herself and her opinions, sure, but you do the same for yourself. I've never seen ANY evidence that she's close minded; in fact, she seems quite open to new experiences and the whole concept of live and let live.
SqueezeOne Pow
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07-27-2007 10:44
From: Ann Launay
Whoa, who are you talking about? :eek: I only know Colette from the forums but I don't get that impression of her in any way. She stands up for herself and her opinions, sure, but you do the same for yourself. I've never seen ANY evidence that she's close minded; in fact, she seems quite open to new experiences and the whole concept of live and let live.


Maybe you are reading different threads than I am. The voice chat debate is proof enough of her unwillingness to be open to new things.

She'll find any excuse to denounce something she doesn't like because it's not enough that she doesn't like it and others do. When all her points have been refuted she resorts to semantics and deflection and ultimately belittlement of the person she can't properly debate with.

That's what I've gathered from seeing her in action anyway. But whatever.
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Ciaran Laval
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07-27-2007 10:45
From: Michael Bigwig
Thank you, I hope you meant to strengthen my argument. It only proves my point that there are entire islands with this mentality. Of course in their eyes, the entire island is secretly run for the purpose of the land owner to make money, and get laid.

:)


Is it tier and rent free there then?

It's a PG Island, I put in my notes about renting PG land that people can't setup adult business. There are a lot more mature plots than PG though.
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07-27-2007 10:51
From: Nina Stepford
ok do you have any sweet words for me now?


That may take a little more time, Hon. :p
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Colette Meiji
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07-27-2007 10:53
From: SqueezeOne Pow
Maybe you are reading different threads than I am. The voice chat debate is proof enough of her unwillingness to be open to new things.

She'll find any excuse to denounce something she doesn't like because it's not enough that she doesn't like it and others do. When all her points have been refuted she resorts to semantics and deflection and ultimately belittlement of the person she can't properly debate with.

That's what I've gathered from seeing her in action anyway. But whatever.



You saw in those threads what you wanted to see.

Once we started arguing you werent really interested in anything I was saying, becuase you missed 90% of the content of my posts.

I think you should be entilted to your opinions.

I do not think you (or anyone, including me) should use language to imply your opinions are better than anyone elses.

I also do not think you (or anyone, including me) should use language to imply you are better than others.
SqueezeOne Pow
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07-27-2007 10:56
From: Colette Meiji

I do not think you (or anyone, including me) should use language to imply your opinions are better than anyone elses.

I also do not think you (or anyone, including me) should use language to imply you are better than others.


Can't wait to see you start implementing that policy...

You're just projecting now. I understood your views of voice chat just fine. You ended up agreeing with me in the end, anyway. Once I mentioned that you were suddenly on the defensive again! It was pretty entertaining.

btw that invitation for debate is still open! ;)
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Yiffy Yaffle
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07-27-2007 11:03
Heck i get VERY defensive. :P
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