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Brenda Connolly
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06-24-2008 10:10
From: Brann Georgia And then it's people like this who then complain that they're being ignored in conversation. Kidding, Kyllie I do tend to skip over text containing things like the above. If ya can't bother to write good, I can't bother to read ya.  Oh, that's one spot where my snobbery will come out. I see that on my screen and you are not getting a second look from me.
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06-24-2008 10:11
From: Danielle Harrop and it's not Wala! it's Voila!!!!! Please, please please! As in "you add the chicken to the mixture, and Voila! you have soup! And Oriented, not orientated. And so many more things I just don't have the time or inclination to list here. If English is your native language, there is no excuse for poor grammar. Sorry...It's how I feel. If English is not your native language, then I can understand making mistakes. Speaking as someone who is only fluent in one language, I applaud anyone who can converse in more than their native language. What you might miss in grammar and spelling, you make up for in your efforts!  Orientated is currently preferred use in general British use. Oriented is prevalent in technical use, and in the US.
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06-24-2008 10:13
From: Kyllie Wylie J00 Kn0w 1f 3v3RY0N3 W0uLd jU57 5p33K L337 w3 w0ULD N07 H4v3 7H15 Pr08L3M Now you are talking.
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Brenda Connolly
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06-24-2008 10:13
From: Rebecca Proudhon Now you are talking. But what the Hell is she saying?
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06-24-2008 10:15
From: Brenda Connolly But what the Hell is she saying? and what's the chuffing point of it, morelike?
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06-24-2008 10:17
From: Yumi Murakami Well, SL doesn't lack these!  ERROR (noun) Is a synonym for "mistake". Errors don't "occur", they "are made", by a human. Faults and malfunctions occur. UNFORTUNATELY (adj) Apart from the old "whole sentence modifier" complaint that English professors make, this word also requires fortune, ie, chance. "Unfortunately we cannot replace that item" is invalid because that's just your decision, not a matter of chance. These are interesting. I don't disagree with you completely, but I think they both can be considered correct when used as they have been in your examples. First, you used "error" as a noun, not a verb. The verb would be "err", as in "To err is human" or "the Court erred in finding that the Plaintiff failed to meet the appropriate burden of proof." I think people combine the passive voice and "error" to avoid taking responsibility for their errors, as in "An error occurred", which sounds better to them than "I made an error". But if someone commits an error, hasn't an error occurred? "Unfortunately" is an adverb, not an adjective. "Unfortunate" would be the adjective, as in "an unfortunate turn of events". "Unfortunately" modifies a verb. That makes it interesting. "Hopefully" is misused a lot, as well, as in, "Hopefully it will stop raining today." "Hopefully" modifies "will", which of course, makes the sentence nonsensical. The correct usage would be, "I am hopeful that it will stop raining," or, "I am looking hopefully at the weather report for this afternoon." "Unfortunately" has the same weird issue. "Unfortunately, we cannot replace that item." is not incorrect in that it is someone's decision rather than a roll of the dice; it is incorrect in that "unfortunately" modifies the verb "replace". Colloquially, that sentence implies that the person who wanted the item replaces is not going to get what they want, and that's too bad for them. Perhaps they took a chance and asked the vendor and now are unfortunate because they didn't get the response they wanted. I don't really know. What I do know is that it would be very difficult to refuse to replace an item unfortunately. You could happily replace an item, or angrily refuse to replace an item, but "unfortunately" doesn't work. I think that we have to accept that the English language is always changing, and what is grammatically correct is not what is always colloquially accepted. There are a number of regional and cultural differences in the way we communicate and to make matters more complicated, the written language and the spoken language are often two different things. It's also highly contextual. The way I speak in a courtroom is very different than the way I speak when I'm drinking beer and playing poker with my buddies on a Friday night. You have to make room for the flexibility of the language. It's what makes English so beautiful to me. I love the fluidity, and the creativity of the language. I love being able to make words up and play with the different inflections that a slight change in sentence structure can create. It's like watching a river flow by. You can see the ripples, back currents and eddies and if you are a careful student of the river, you can read a whole story into the passing water by knowing how what lies beneath affects what happens on the surface.
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06-24-2008 10:18
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06-24-2008 10:20
"rooves" is a word peculiar to the broadcast media in the UK. Typically used when a number of roofs have blown off in the south of England because the wind speed has reached the dizzying rate of 40mph. This is sometimes accompanied by the word "blizzard" to describe the situation, when more than one snowflake can be observed falling to the ground. At the same time, a small pile of snow blown against a wall is a "drift" In more northern areas, the typical reaction to hearing the words "rooves", "blizzard", "drift" and the ensuing panic in the bottom right hand corner of the UK is "softsouthernbastids" 
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06-24-2008 10:22
From: Bruise Shepherd "rooves" is a word peculiar to the broadcast media in the UK. Typically used when a number of roofs have blown off in the south of England because the wind speed has reached the dizzying rate of 40mph. This is sometimes accompanied by the word "blizzard" to describe the situation, when more than one snowflake can be observed falling to the ground. At the same time, a small pile of snow blown against a wall is a "drift" In more northern areas, the typical reaction to hearing the words "rooves", "blizzard", "drift" and the ensuing panic in the bottom right hand corner of the UK is "softsouthernbastids"  A howling gale and thick blizzard conditions are merely a "moderate day" for your average bluff Yorkshireman.
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06-24-2008 10:22
From: Phil Deakins It wouldn't catch "of" and "then" when used wrongly  that's exactly what I meant. A good junk of what you are seeing are prolly honest typos. I mixed up "There" and "They" purely on accident which aren't even related. But because people are too dependent on little red underlines, it gets the submit button before they notice.
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06-24-2008 10:30
From: Aeslyn Dae Yeah it's one of -those- words. I could never quite remember one c or two until I saw a kids' English programme on tv once where they said just think of the sentence, "It is necessary to wear one Collar and two Socks."
-- Aes Another way to think of it is that a double 'c' is rarely pronounced as 's', so you wouldn't want it to look like it was 'neckessary'.
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06-24-2008 10:30
From: Ashe1 Writer This one catches my eye everytime. "alot" or I have even seen "allot." It is two words, spelled "a lot."
Ashe You can say the same for All Right. I see it written as alright, and use it that way myself on occasion. The language evolves according to its use, and soon OIC will be in the Oxford Dictionary because of it. I really hate that acronym, though I understand people are just trying to type faster by truncating phrases like that.
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06-24-2008 10:31
From: Bruise Shepherd "rooves" is a word peculiar to the broadcast media in the UK. Typically used when a number of roofs have blown off in the south of England because the wind speed has reached the dizzying rate of 40mph. This is sometimes accompanied by the word "blizzard" to describe the situation, when more than one snowflake can be observed falling to the ground. At the same time, a small pile of snow blown against a wall is a "drift" In more northern areas, the typical reaction to hearing the words "rooves", "blizzard", "drift" and the ensuing panic in the bottom right hand corner of the UK is "softsouthernbastids"  I love it. We get the same weird phenomenon here. It hits 90 degrees F (approximately 32C), and the television news makes special graphics "HEAT WAVE 2008!" One inch of snow on the ground (2.5cm) and we get "WINTER STORM WATCH! THE BLIZZARD OF THE CENTURY!" Check your neighbors; they might be dead. Commerce and governmental process come to a grinding halt. It's catastrophic. I'll never understand that over-reaction. Maybe they just think that sensationalism sells, but anybody can just look out the window and see that it's only a bit of snow.
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06-24-2008 10:32
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Brenda Connolly
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06-24-2008 10:32
From: Sredni Eel The language evolves according to its use, and soon OIC will be in the Oxford Dictionary because of it.
What is OIC?
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06-24-2008 10:32
From: Max Herzog bluff Yorkshireman Ooooh, this is fun! Are you referring to (def 1) -your rough and frank but affable manner or (def 2) - your having a broad, flat front? 
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06-24-2008 10:33
From: Trout Recreant I love it. We get the same weird phenomenon here. It hits 90 degrees F (approximately 32C), and the television news makes special graphics "HEAT WAVE 2008!" One inch of snow on the ground (2.5cm) and we get "WINTER STORM WATCH! THE BLIZZARD OF THE CENTURY!" Check your neighbors; they might be dead. Commerce and governmental process come to a grinding halt. It's catastrophic.
I'll never understand that over-reaction. Maybe they just think that sensationalism sells, but anybody can just look out the window and see that it's only a bit of snow. A lot of basements don't have windows... My Peeve with weather people is "Snow will be 'Overspreding" the are..." WTF is Overspread?
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06-24-2008 10:33
Somebody once made the mistake of sending me a text message which ended "c u l8er m8"
He did indeed see me later. The last thing he saw was me beating him to death with his mobile phone.
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06-24-2008 10:33
From: Brann Georgia But I think for some of us, the English language (or language in general) is like a big toy, or a puzzle, or something to be played with, sculpted, displayed and bandied about. ...caressed, fondled, nuzzled---even masturbated with---but *always* celebrated. Sadly, watching the way some people use language is much like seeing a Renoir being used for a coaster, under a large, sweaty glass of iced tea.
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06-24-2008 10:34
From: Drifter Dreamscape Ooooh, this is fun! Are you referring to (def 1) -your rough and frank but affable manner or (def 2) - your having a broad, flat front?  both, I think 
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06-24-2008 10:35
I dunno, but I think it's Yiddish From: Brenda Connolly What is OIC?
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06-24-2008 10:35
From: Drifter Dreamscape Ooooh, this is fun! Are you referring to (def 1) -your rough and frank but affable manner or (def 2) - your having a broad, flat front?  Oh, (def 1) for sure. However, I would have inserted a comma between "rough" and "frank" as opposed to the "and". 
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06-24-2008 10:35
From: Max Herzog Somebody once made the mistake of sending me a text message which ended "c u l8er m8"
He did indeed see me later. The last thing he saw was me beating him to death with his mobile phone. I am Rolling on the floor laughing...*Don't want Max to beat me with my cell phone*
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06-24-2008 10:36
From: Zaphod Kotobide I dunno, but I think it's Yiddish Ohhh I see
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06-24-2008 10:37
From: Kaimi Kyomoon I did my best on post 75. Yes! Thank you!
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