WebCam and Voice = Sex Acts/Porn in SL?

Wimps. If you can't handle a sex video being leaked don't make one

Personally I think it'd be exciting, right up until my parents saw it.

I've already said I haven't read the initial remark... maybe I should, iono. But guns are an extremely serious subject. I always see a comparison to them, even to only one point as a usually off topic and over exaggerated remark. Webcams aren't nearly as serious, I hope you agree. They're more fun than serious in my opinion...though I don't use them. Just not my thing.

If someone had said what you said, but use a nuclear bomb instead of a gun, don't you think that they'd be over exaggerating? Don't you think that it'd be a bit much? I'm saying the same thing, only on a smaller scale, since no one wants to bring nukes into the conversation (Damnit I just did)



I haven't said you're full of it or stupid. I'm saying that using a gun in any analogy with a webcam is, in my opinion, going a bit overboard. You're comparing things (As I think I've said a few times now) things on completely different levels. Apples and oranges as they say (Or apples and bananas would be more fitting, considering shapes)



Oh come now, that was a thinly veiled insult. The first bit I mean. Hopefully not at me, maybe at someone else in the thread, but still... not nice

Anywho, I usually answer. Gives me something to do, things to ponder, reasons to not call myself silly for using a laptop and a desktop PC at the same time....

They're out there. I know a woman who was deeply distressed to find out that the "man" she'd fallen in love with in SL was a lesbian woman in RL.



Why do they "have" to? That's *their* problem, and I won't pander to it. Especially since any form of "proof" can be faked.



Agreed, and I agree with MonaLisa that the girls selling webcam and voice escort services at SL prices are putting themselves at risk. We can debate whether that is wise at *any* price, but they are certainly getting far less for it than the girls on "mainstream" porn sites.

I haven't spoken up on this thread till now, but I think Jig's original premise is flawed. Voice and cam won't make SL a hotbed of sex and porn. There was plenty of that in SL *before* voice came along. It's so much a part of the virtual economy that to try and get rid of it would kill SL once and for all.

Why not turn it around? Because of the anonymity of the avatar and the text communication format, SL is perhaps the SAFEST place for a woman (all right, for men too!) to experiment with the sex worker trade. It might even lead to real financial success (viz. Ms. A. Chung). I would never in a million years put my picture or my phone number up on a mainstream webporn site...but I've been (briefly) an escort in SL. A most educational experience.

Sheesh.

SL *is* a hotbed of sex and porn.

/me walks off shaking my head and thinking how anyone can miss it

By the way Lindal, Frau Cheung might not take kindly to misinterpretation that she made her money from escorting, if people don't read properly!

Yes, I'm gonna have to just nod my head vigorously on this. Of course, I have no frame of reference whatsoever about how that could turn out. None. Whatsoever. At all



If they (or I) had said that that there was no difference in destructive potential then yes - that's cause for a psych workup. But it's not an exaggeration to say that both carry their own consequences for misuse and poor judgement. The real damage that has been done over or as a result of something as seemingly harmless as spoken words tells us that when wielded by the wrong person with enough intent, danger can be far worse than anticipated.

I've also said a few times now that I am not comparing the objects directly, but the requisites of preventing them from being misused. I could have used a car and made the same point, because the only requirements of my comparison are that use requires responsibility and misuse can do damage. Honestly, I think the concept of a gun itself has caused its own escalation - to me its a literary tool in this circumstance. A prop, if you will.



Not an insult, and not directed at you. I was actually saying that your points and opinions matter whether or not I agree with them all. I was not shown the same courtesy earlier, but that wasn't your doing, so I apologize if you thought I was trying to insult you...

Well, that's the story I heard. Not ALL her money, but they say she started as an escort.

From the Wiki article on Anshe:
"She raised funds through event hosting, escorting,[3] erotic services,[9] teaching[10] and fashion design."

If they haven't locked up the forums regulars "pet thread" which unbelievably brings some type of meaningful life and joy to them and which they live to keep alive they most likely won't touch this one either.

Go figure.

I wonder why this thread should be locked - it's raising some points that should be addressed. We live in a world where sex is very important. We must establish our status in these issues.

That's what I meant though...that by bringing a gun into it, the conversation is automatically escalated, just by the idea of the gun.. I see that as an obvious outcome of it, and it seems to me most people would (I could of course be wrong). I know what you were comparing, I'm just saying that using a gun as one of the objects, you were inviting escalation.

Especially on these forums, seriously. Have you seen some of the people around here?

Oh, and I know, I'm not helping ^-^


I meant the 'Unlike some who I address' bit. I can't see how that isn't insulting, even though no names were mentioned. But maybe I'm just paranoid, or something.

Here's my state on the whole 'sex' thing.

I like it.

Alright, I'll open the floor now for questions....


But seriously, I agree, I don't think this thread has much reason to be locked. Some posts break some rules, but all in all it's a generally on-topic thread, raises good and bad points, and even though I'm engaged in a tangent conversation, even that bit is still generally on topic.

Okay, I see your point. It does force a sort of psychological jump into another category. Guns do have a way of focusing all the attention on them, to where they're all that matter, don't they? In hindsight, I think a feather would have illustrated my point even more effectively, seeing as people would laugh at it's danger until someone with intent and little responsibility stuck one into their eyeball, LOL. And hey! It's escalation-free!




No, I had forgotten that you said you hadn't read all of the previous posts. Had you read them in their entirety you'd have realized what I meant by this. My ideas and contribution to this thread were chalked up as coming from a place of invalidity. As if questions I asked did not even deserve the respect of being acknowledged, and neither did I. I tend to not react well to that - especially when I'm invalid 'just because'.

Mmmm...well still. It's not a nice thing to say. The 'adult' thing to do would be to just ignore their pigheadedness. At least that's what my mom would say or something, who cares.

Good grief! I'll try, but I don't think it will do any good.

Guns are made to inflict damage; webcams are made to transmit pictures. Guns can be used to hurt and kill; webcams cannot be used to hurt, let alone kill, unless bashing someone over the head repeatedly with one will do. Guns can be "misused" by the owners, by hurting or killing someone or something. Webcams cannot be "misused" by the owners, unless hiding one in someone's bedroom counts, but that's just plain silly.

You are right, up to point, but you left one very important bit out. Other people's opinions are only valid *to me* if either I agree with them, or I can see that they have a point. Unfortunately, your opinion, whatever it is, got lost in a whole bunch of nonsensical questions from you. Most wafflers come up with much better stuff than that.

a/s/l?


... kidding, put the gun away.

"Never bring a gun to an orgy".

79/hermaphrodite/your kitchen cupboard.

That's right baby, less do this

I retract my last. Please aim the gun in my direction. Thanks.

Yes but it's all in the perception isn't it? Similar to how I could take the reference to the 'adult' thing to do as a slight on my maturity. I choose not to, but it would be simple to do so.

As far as whether it's nice to mention how one was treated earlier while assuring someone else that I will not treat them in similar fashion, I'm not sure what to say to that, so I'll say nothing...

Your labels and arrogance have become amusing rather than irritating or even curious. Like I told you once already, you go ahead and keep on considering inability to provide answers that support your stance with facts the same thing as having never been asked anything. If it works in your reality then keep on rockin - by all means. In the world outside your skull however, this type of thing is about as hard to see through as scotch tape. C-ya silly goose

Oh no, if I was going to comment on a personal trait I'd do it in PM. I see no reason to clutter the forums with silly bickering.

Anyhow, I'm done with this thread I think..maybe not, who knows. Food time now. Byebye!

I suppose that works if you're into autoerotic asphyxiation or stuff like that...

GASP!

lol.

Touché!

Just wanted to post 'cuz I gots me a new sig quote!

oh and I like sex. So where is it that anyone has the right to censor my use of voice if I would so choose to use it that way. Not saying that I do....