WebCam and Voice = Sex Acts/Porn in SL?

Paper debunking the "technopanics" that so enamor a couple of the posters in this thread.

http://www.uic.edu/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/2152/1966

A quote from her conclusion:

"First, while online predators do not represent an epidemic or socially significant problem, child pornography and child abuse are important social issues that require attention. However, they are not caused by minors using MySpace, and preventing children from using social networking sites will do nothing to end these problems."

it's all yours have at it =)

Small wonder.

What a lovely thought....

Looks like SL has competition (and imitators) on the Sex end of being "Virtual":

http://www.redlightcenter.com/

i tried it before..it's not bad and the animations for the sex are really realistic and everything lines up lol..
but the world is at most the size of one sim and costs 20 dollars a month for VIP pass ..
all the clothes are free in the RLC forums and skins too..the things you buy in world are things that you buy for your RL and get mailed to you like shopping online..and you can't own homes or land..

All this talk of prostitution on sl has made me wonder - is it actually illegal in the real world to sell sex in sl?

Its not illegal in the US, if the participants or observers are adults. I'd guess there are some countries where it is illegal.

One does not truly KNOW the age of those in SL.

One doesn't always know the age in rl either! There are 20 something year olds I know that look like they are 16-17, and I know many teens that look a older as well (male and female)

Do you card your dates? Or rely on the venue to judge age by, after all you don't expect them to be underage at a bar (yet omg teens can get in too!)

......... ooops wrong thread. Sorry.... didn't mean to bump or anything so this is just an edit.

LMAO

I did not read thru the thread but as a newb, I can tell you that I have had a LOT of requests for pics, voice, and cam from men. At first I was willing to do voice to prove female genitalia, but now I decided it is more trouble than it is worth. As far as cam goes, I hear about a lot of that in the gay man community (I am a gay man's fan LOL). But I am SURE it is all over the place. Pics, let me just say that I have my fair share of rl pics of male genitalia in my inventory. Men just send them to me???? Well, I do none of the above. I decided to even put that in my profile. If they have doubts about me being a real woman, they can move on. SL is all about the illusion anyway, why does it matter?

OK- seriously Kate- please clean up the language- there is no need.

/me hides under a chair

How's that?

Just for future reference: if you post to a thread you didn't mean to, delete your post afterwards rather than edit it and the thread won't end up "bumped".

To be honest I worry about the domestic and family impact.

I should imagine it's sad enough to come home from school to find your mum/dad sitting huddled over the PC screen in the same position, in the same underwear they were when you left that morning..manically clicking the mouse button and feverishly tapping at the keyboard with one hand while the other writhes urgently between their thighs.

How much more distressing to find them legs akimbo.. soiled underwear round their ankles and the webcam on 10x zoom focussed on their crotch..

For God's sake think of the children!

not involved, but I'd say voice/cam at least for proof is going to be very important, everyone knows the old g.i.r.l. = guy in real life

be careful the next hottie you chat up is probably some 400 pound 40 year old guy living in his mother's basement

or you wind up with your chat log posted on somethingaweful.com lol.

HAHAHAHAHA!
Hilarious! That can't be done allready with other "tools" than SL... If your mom or dad want to do that, they will, even if they don't have Second Life installed on the computer.
They just need MSN, Yahoo Messenger, Skype... or any other program that supports webcam and voice, from the tons that exist out there...

There's nothing wrong with my facts. The problem is that you don't have answers, besides "because". Anything you can't answer with "because" must be deemed "nonsensical". Simple formula. Concise. You have an exciting career in the Executive Branch of the government ahead of you.



I thought I presented no opinions, beliefs, or statements? Now I did? What a thrill-a-minute fun-ride! I've gotta catch my breath!



Good grief. I don't know how to say it any clearer. Whether or not speaking is faster or easier in a local environment is not my issue, hence my question about the relevance of not typing to someone in the same room. If you didn't want the relevancy of that statement questioned, why'd ya make the statement?



LOL, once again we return to your dopey inability to make up your mind about whether I'm merely asking questions or presenting my views. Take a stand for crying out loud. If you are gonna experience a synaptic BSOD every time someone asks you a question in a way that illuminates the motive and belief behind said question, then maybe clicks and whistles will be a less stressful form of communication for you in the future. Furthermore, before you attempt to dictate to others which discussions they do or do not get into, make sure you realize what the original topic of discussion was. Here's a hint: it had nothing to do with whether typing was easier or faster than speaking. The thread title will be an invaluable help to you here.

And I would agree with "people". As a matter of fact, I've been doing so in discussions on that topic on this board for the last year. My platform has always been that there are many reasons that people may prefer to type, and that they have nothing to do with "hiding", "gender-bending", or any of the other lame motives that people have claimed could be the only reason one would not want to voice. Also that they should not have to explain the decision to keep typing, because this world was designed with typing as the default medium of communication. Which one was faster has never been a determining factor for me, except for people who need to develop a straw man argument to invalidate my entire opinion.

Of course there is always that risk. As I've written before, I see it as a guy issue. Yes, in the lesbian community, we also have men faking being women ... and while many women are irritated by that when the truth eventually comes out (and it always does ... it's very, very hard to convincingly be the other gender all the time over the long term -- only a very, very good actor or a transgendered person could pull that off, really, under the scrutiny of RL women), we don't typically have the absolute revulsion to it that men do. I think that's because many women tend to have a more flexible sexuality than men do (especially, perhaps, the women who are pursuing lesbian relationships in SL), and may be somewhat more empathetic towards men who are exploring alternative aspects of their own sexuality -- whereas men tend to approach these things in a rather rigid way, in my experience. I haven't heard much of a hubbub about women "voice verifying" each other in the lesbian SL world, and I've been around that world now for quite some time. It seems to come up regularly in the straight SL world, though -- which makes me think this is principally a guy thing and something that has its roots in male homo-discomfort.

I am surprised that my thread is still running - but just some ideas here, discussion points. I am a woman but the men I have had sex with in sl have never have had a problem with my gender proof. SL IS a fantasy world (although we tend to forget that it is) so it is immaterial what our partners' genders are in reality. My first SL husband was a werewolf so I am not sure how that would have been improved by his voice - woofs? In terms of use of voice in sex, men are monotonously similar in reality so I can't honestly say I am thriilled with the idea of hearing a a bloke huffing and puffing on the phone. Type literate and sensual words.
As I have read in this thread, I am NOT the only person who is reluctant to use voice - or web cam - in my case I dont want to be recognized or compromised. Not everyone in sl is a 300 pound male in his mother's basement - although I am sure I have had sex wih one or two of them on occasion. We do have jobs that are in public eye or have a considerable responsibility. The thought of someone transferring a picture of me / or flaunting my voice to others is frightening.
Recent people coming to SL have brought new values with them and expectations that this must become as close to reality as we must get. I see email addresses and business offers, facebook addresses and all manner of "stuff". I just feel voice is an intrusion.
I was in the UK recently and I was in a restaurant where an "arts personality" was holding forth at his dinner table to an adoring group. His voice was penetrating and loud. A young man eating his meal with a friend nearby declared "Shut up please, I am trying to eat my meal in peace." the man had obviously never been required to do so but said "I'm sorry" The young man said "Don't be sorry - just be f*** quiet." Many applauded. So did I. I like sl to be a silent "restaurant".
I don't use voice in sl. I don't webcam in sl. It's just a little bit dangerous. Like a man not wearing a condom - you never know what he'll share with you

For once I agree 100% with one of Jig's posts.

Thanks.

A funny twist on this.

I know people who will do the webcam sex thing but would never dream of allowing a videotape made during RL sex.

How is that for a contradiction.

Well the thinking is probably that the webcam thing is a live event and when it's over it's over whereas the video is a recording and therefore distributable.

Better tell those people that their webcam stream can easily be recorded too!

Yeah that is my thinking. They have no idea if they are being recorded on the other end.