WebCam and Voice = Sex Acts/Porn in SL?

Hees, yesh. And that was 1998. I will very quietly admit that I was a quazi "cam girl" back then (back when there was Jenni, Isabella, Ana Voog and a handful of others). Although it was all in fun and my cam shows (updates every 1 minute -- how exciting) were very tame and more slice of life. I kinda worked the satirical angle and was taking the piss out of the entire concept. I was baaaaaaaaad. ahem.

Any way... I'm all growed up now and living a peaceful existence in SL. heeee.

*waves* We had such a good laugh, didn't we? heeee. *giggles*

So busted.

And if these people are too dumb to realize the risk or implications then I have no sympathy for them.

I am tired of everyone thinking that we need to protect the idiots from themselves. We need to get back to an attitude of 'I am responsible for what I do and will educate myself appropriately.'

I think lots of people are closet exhibitionists. Hence the appeal of SL. I mean, how many guys love walking around proudly displaying their one prim pen0r? giggles

But yeah, I think there are also a number of people who feel they "have" to do certain things in SL to feed whatever part of themselves is lacking. Kinda weird, but I can see it.

And in the late 90s webcams sure made lots of folks strip! heeee.

Philip Rosedale was the creator of Freevue, a video conferencing system, before he got started SL & LL. Reportedly this early web cam company earned money with an early version of "web cam sex". Here's a link to one brief account of this story: http://www.thealarmclock.com/mt/archives/2007/05/second_lifes_ph_1.html .

OFT

QFT!!

If SL could handle a live webcam stream well enough, I'd be broadcasting myself for Shits N Giggles. Folks can watch me:
Sit at a computer. Get up & get more coffee/beer. Sit at a computer. Get up & get more coffee/beer. Sit at a computer. Get up & get more coffee/beer, and so on.

so does more someone's.

one thing people should remember with certain video and voice communicating programs is that some do give up your IP..i'm sure a lot of people use Skype..do a search and see if it can give up your IP to someone that knows what they are doing or how easy it is to learn how to do it if someone wished to..
there are some safe programs but some popular ones that are not that people take for granted as safe..SL is pretty safe as far as your information goes..
it's when you step outside that you step out of the protection of it..

what people do on their voice or video is their own business..I would just make sure and check that you are using something secure because yes even though it's all in some fun or you are trying to get turned on or just chat..if you don't do it wisely and think the world is a happy shiney place with nice people and nobody can get hurt..it's not..
just because someone decided to do a video confrence with someone and puts themself at risk..i still have a hard time saying it was their fault when some freak shows up at their door or where ever because they found where they live..

i don't think that was their intention..
you know sl is safe make sure everything you use that puts you out there is as safe..ignoring security only leads to openings to you..i can't see why some would even question why some choose not to do voice or video saying people are hiding a sex or whatever..of course they are hiding..thats common sense but it doesn't have to be that they are only hiding a gender..some may just be playing it smart and not trusting the net like they should ..

Also people saying women are not at risk? women are at risk when they walk down the street after dark what makes people think they are safe on the net?

I just had to follow up on this, Lucrezia

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Back in the Dark Ages of PC's (DOS), my boyfriend and I visited some friends of ours (a long-time married couple with 5 children) who were very excited about this new ability to talk to others on the internet.

There was a certain program (can't recall the name of it but predated Yahoo or MSN) that allowed "talkers" to speak to each other. The guys got this "great idea" to put a listing up as "Two Hot Sisters" with this really obscene email address and wait to see if we got any "takers" - then have us (the two women) errrr, "talk" with them (the men) "coaching" us in the background. We were mortified but the guys egged us into it so we finally did it.

Within seconds of posting, we got a "hit" and we "Two Hot Sisters" began "chatting up" the guy with "our" guys telling us what to say. Then the guys stopped us and said to us "He's done." Within a few more seconds the proverbial request for a photo came through the "netwaves."

The husband of our friends started wildly waving his hands and laughing and told us to keep the guy on the line while he looked on his PC - and produced a photo that was going around at the time of two grotesquely obese women in undies. He plucked it out and with proper "buildup" and "fanfare" we sent the photo to him and waited.

The next thing we heard was him laughing and saying "You got me."

Ahhhh, what fun to be had by two couples *ahem* of a certain age.

Juvenile...but your story brought that long ago incident to mind.

Oooooo....I recall someone mentioning that during my IRC days and the types of "disgusting things" (quoted from the person relating this to me who was far from a prude...but comparing "seeing" to just "texting" people were using it for.

That was Philip?????? *blinks*

QFT!!!

And not just for this issue: For life in general.

Should be like good road signage: All you need in plenty of time for you to navigate it safely yourself. But expect to navigate it yourself.

It just amazes me that people seem to think using web cams, stills, and voice interface for virtual sex is something new because it is done related now to second life. Virtual Sex or cybersex has been going on for years via web based games, IRC chats, and even chatrooms of the major instant message providers since the Internet began. Unless you shut down the whole Internet permanently, there will be virtual sex in some fashion. As long as they are not bothering others, what two consenting adults do to each other is their business. If they are a bother, mute and report them to LL.

I can remember virtual sex back when I first started using the BBS's .. so no, not a new thing by any stretch! man those were the days.. logging on and getting lucky enough to catch the sysop at the helm..

Exactly. Why the outrage? All you've done here is add an avatar doing an animation to something that's been in existence for years, with or without visuals, for longer than the OP has been alive.

I'm not quite understanding what is unseen about the danger?



It's hard to imagine anyone saying this with a straight face and even harder to imagine anyone who would be ignorant and gullible enough to believe it.



Actually I think we would all be better off if we could protect idiots from making mistakes, but trying to do it by preventing everyone from having technology is ludicrous.

For maximum pointless unpleasant discussion this thread needs to get merged with the dolcett thread at /327/cf/269434/1.html .

i'm still trying to figure out if this is SL that some are worried about or when they step away from it..SL is as safe as it gets..you step out then it's not SL anymore ..it's people that have met in SL using other platforms to communicate and you can't blame SL for that..

sorry but this topic is confusing because you can't do video in sl and i can't tell if people are worried about in world or out lol

Yes, but then the "Live Girls on Webcam" signs would have to be delicately re-worded.

*regrets going there, but couldn't resist*

*chokes on my coffee and stifles a giggle*

Ohhhh that's bad...

I tried to resist, really I did.

I blame the kona. ^^

For a even worse thread than this one merged with the dolcett thread, merge this one with both the dolcett thread and the "fun stuff for kids for summer camp" thread.

I think I've seen the big-budget version. Something to do with a guy in a hockey mask, iirc.

Also, coffee is not for breathing, and I'm out of handy-wipes. ;P

Throw in the Big Announcement thread as well just for the heck of it.

But that's not what you posted about. You posted about the risk being to women. I am well known throughout the world amongst a certain section of people, but I have no qualms about using webcams as and when I choose. What you do on a webcam is up to you, but mere webcams have no risk at all. And they are nothing to do with SL.

That's you and some other people, so you say. Most of us can't do that, so voice is excellent. Not only is it a whole lot easier to explain what you are trying to say than with typing, but it's also simply better than typing, however fast you can type. You wouldn't dream of typing to someone who is in the same room as you, and on another computer, when you can talk. Why? because it's so much more convenient in every way. Voice really is excellent for SL.