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Should LL employees enable griefers?

Ponsonby Low
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08-25-2009 17:41
If there is a sub-culture within Linden Lab of people who basically feel that bullying some particular resident or residents is pretty much okay (whether or not said resident or residents have inconvenienced them or annoyed them), then that's a real issue.

If such a hypothetical sub-group has engaged in giving open or even tacit encouragement to non-Lindens to engage in harassment, then that, too, is a real issue.

The particular allegation in this particular thread (that a Linden saw and approved an act of hostile graffiti) may not be capable of proof.

That doesn't mean we should forget about the allegation nor should we declare it out-of-bounds for discussion. But we should bear in mind that it's only an allegation.
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08-25-2009 17:42
From: Jesse Barnett
Hey, I like you!
^^ This :D
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08-25-2009 17:43
From: Gabriele Graves
Insult me all you like, it only make you look worse. Assume all you like, I am not even going to bother to refute that piece of stupidity. Darien, you have just lost any credibility you ever had here along with who ever else thinks that you have shown any evidence of anything so far.

Just so you know, I abuse reported your post too.


As if I care. You certainly have no credibility with me, acting like a fool with your retarded graphics. Trivializing this kind of thing makes you just as much at guilt as they are. And griefers do not hold any credibility with me at all.
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08-25-2009 17:43
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Hey, thank you!

That person in your pic might get a headache tho!

322 posts later......... Who does not have a headache? :p
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08-25-2009 17:44
From: Ponsonby Low
The particular allegation in this particular thread (that a Linden saw and approved an act of hostile graffiti) may not be capable of proof.

That doesn't mean we should forget about the allegation nor should we declare it out-of-bounds for discussion. But we should bear in mind that it's only an allegation.


A ten foot allegation bit my cousin! I believe him cos he hardly ever sees stuff when he drinks from that big bottle, any more.
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08-25-2009 17:45
From: Darien Caldwell
As if I care. You certainly have no credibility with me, acting like a fool with your retarded graphics. Trivializing this kind of thing makes you just as much at guilt as they are. And griefers do not hold any credibility with me at all.
Why would I want credibility with someone who brings this nonsense here and then acts like a crazy person?

Retarded graphics? Well, well now you show your true nasty colours too. Belittling the creativity of another person is about as low as you can get. Keep it up, I'll keep abuse reporting.
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08-25-2009 17:45
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Yeah, not so much. If you hate the makers of SL so much, it might be time to invest in a copy of WOW. Just saying.


Already have, some time ago. I"ve been winding down SL for some time now, because it's day has past. They had a real chance to do something great, and they pissed it away.

A business app? It's beyond sad. It could have been a model for a new, better, society. Biggest fail in history.
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08-25-2009 17:46
From: Gabriele Graves
Why would I want credibility with someone who brings this nonsense here and then acts like a crazy person?

Retarded graphics? Well, well now you show your true nasty colours too. Belittling the creativity of another person is about as low as you can get. Keep it up, I'll keep abuse reporting.


LL is laughing at you. so keep on reporting.
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08-25-2009 17:47
/me wonders if Prok doesn't have an alt... :rolleyes:
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Gabriele Graves
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08-25-2009 17:49
From: Darien Caldwell
LL is laughing at you. so keep on reporting.
Sure, whatever because you would have a clue what LL do too I take it? :rolleyes:
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08-25-2009 17:49
From: Smith Peel
Nobody should react the insane way that this person reacts. That just makes griefers want to do it more. Plus this person alienates everyone who happens to be in the warpath and makes up crazy claims to justify it. Nobody here wants to see anybody get griefed, but Drama doesn't happen *TO* this person. We can't help it if we amused by the crazy stuff that gets posted on that blog.
Smith, That sounds a bit callous.
Prok was minding her own business. Her blog was relatively calm and then this barrage of harassment. And the griefers enjoy that you enjoy it.
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08-25-2009 17:52
From: Smith Peel
/me wonders if Prok doesn't have an alt... :rolleyes:


I"ve never met Prok, and never plan to. She has her issues, as everyone does in life. But I can see from her perspective, and I can empathise with her plight. So yes, we are in some ways the same. If I was her alt, I wouldnt' have lasted 20 pages before an outburst though, I can guarantee you. :P
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08-25-2009 17:52
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322 posts later......... Who does not have a headache? :p
Stop banging your head on your desk. That ought to clear it up.
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Ciaran Laval
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08-25-2009 17:53
Darien you've presented hearsay as fact. Even Prok isn't doing that. People asked you for evidence and you haven't been able to provide evidence to backup your "facts". That's why you've been challenged.

Prok does not deserve the griefing and associated financial loss, Linden lab should do more to ensure Prok isn't subjected to this sort of abuse, he's being bullied but that doesn't make your facts correct, you've made extremely serious claims against a Linden Lab employee.
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08-25-2009 17:53
From: Darien Caldwell
I"ve never met Prok, and never plan to. She has her issues, as everyone does in life. But I can see from her perspective, and I can empathise with her plight. So yes, we are in some ways the same. If I was her alt, I wouldnt' have lasted 20 pages before an outburst though, I can guarantee you. :P

If you were Prok's alt, your posts would be much longer, nastier and make a lot less sense.
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08-25-2009 17:55
From: Darien Caldwell
I"ve never met Prok, and never plan to. She has her issues, as everyone does in life.

From: Lias Leandros

Prok was minding her own business. Her blog was relatively calm and then this barrage of harassment. And the griefers enjoy that you enjoy it.
Prok has repeatedly stated a preference for the male pronoun. Why are you neither of you able to extend even that much courtesy?
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08-25-2009 17:55
From: Ciaran Laval
Darien you've presented hearsay as fact. Even Prok isn't doing that. People asked you for evidence and you haven't been able to provide evidence to backup your "facts". That's why you've been challenged.

Prok does not deserve the griefing and associated financial loss, Linden lab should do more to ensure Prok isn't subjected to this sort of abuse, he's being bullied but that doesn't make your facts correct, you've made extremely serious claims against a Linden Lab employee.

Yeah. That.
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08-25-2009 17:56
From: Lias Leandros
Smith, That sounds a bit callous.
Prok was minding her own business. Her blog was relatively calm and then this barrage of harassment. And the griefers enjoy that you enjoy it.


I don't mean to be callous, but if you really read that blog, it is peppered with a unique brand of hilarious insanity. I used to think that was on purpose-- actually, I still do think that.

PS, I wouldn't even *know* what the supposed griefers did, if this person wasn't raving and ranting and advertising it instead of quietly AR'ing it.
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08-25-2009 17:56
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322 posts later......... Who does not have a headache? :p


/me ties the thread's shoelaces together.
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08-25-2009 17:57
From: Lias Leandros
Smith, That sounds a bit callous.
Prok was minding her own business. Her blog was relatively calm and then this barrage of harassment. And the griefers enjoy that you enjoy it.

Prok has barfed up plenty of vemon in that blog.
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08-25-2009 17:57
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If you were Prok's alt, your posts would be much longer, nastier and make a lot less sense.


Good point ;)
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08-25-2009 17:58
From: Milla Janick
Prok has barfed up plenty of vemon in that blog.


Why does barf always have corn in it?
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08-25-2009 17:58
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Why does barf always have corn in it?
It must be a regional thing, at this part of the earth it is always carrots :cool:
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08-25-2009 18:00
From: Gabriele Graves
It must be a regional thing, at this part of the earth it is always carrots :cool:


I'll hafta go over there then. I don't like carrots. That means I'll never barf.

Yayyy!
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08-25-2009 18:00
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Prok has repeatedly stated a preference for the male pronoun. Why are you neither of you able to extend even that much courtesy?


This could be considered a kind of griefing.
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