Should LL employees enable griefers?

Or their prim chickens.

LOLwut?

This is a logical error known as a loaded question btw.

All LL work is pretty much amateurish. Best work is done from people who aren't part of LL company. That starts with the any visual work of any creation and dosn't end with server coding or client coding.

Its the community that makes things better or worst.

Lias, my friend! Let's try sticking to some facts, k?



Nobody poo-pooed it from what I can tell. Phillip apologized in a really nice letter which was rewarded with an epic rant in return. I couldn't bring myself to read most of it.



Who enabled anyone to do that? Why would LL want graffiti on their building?



If you are talking about who I think you are talking about, that is actually not even remotely true.



Is anyone claiming that it hasn't been cleaned up?

Yes, it is a logical error. But rhetorically, it's fair game, and often very effective. As in this instance.

If you wanna fight dirty, I suppose so.

Rhetoric IS dirty! It's the art of persuasion. By ANY means necessary. And it works.

I am a very good listener.

Pep (Did you say something about "real issues" and "virtual worlds" in the same sentence? ROFLMAO! )

You want to say dirty rhetoric is the art of persuasion?

Ummmm . . . Well, could be. Depending on the context.

Could be threatening behaviour, contrary to Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1967, at least if all this were happening in the UK rather than SL.

Whether just standing next to the person was likely to cause them harassment, alarm or distress, would be a factual question for the court to decide, as would the defendant's intentions at the time, but if a group of people happen know that -- for example -- some local eccentric gets freaked out by people standing next to him wearing Man United shirts, and then, for the fun of getting a rise out of him, individual group members make a point of doing just that, then the law will step in to protect him, even though the individual concerned might not have done it before.

It would be up to the court to assess what was going on in a particular set of circumstances, but the law -- at least in the UK -- tries to protect even people who might seem to most of us rather over-sensitive and unreasonable from deliberate harassment and provocation.

I gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you here. You would have to have a complete lack of ethics to persuade by any means necessary.

Gotta say I'm LMAO with Pep on this one.

Are you mixing up rhetoric up with oratory?

Pep (Just asking. )

No, I don't think so. Rhetoric, in the Ciceronian sense. Although, maybe post-Ramist, given the implied separation of rhetoric and logic . . .

/me ponders ponderously . . .

You can't ban Lindens. This is is why this has been brought up. What is one to do when the griefers are people of authority who are in fact supposed to be the ones to protect you?

Philip did his President Brush impression. Vacant confusion and happy-place sunshine
I know NOTHING!
No RL experience in any capacity in community development at all.
There were Linden employees on the party bus. If you goto the SLCC flikr pictures you see folks in writing thanking the Lindens that were with them on the bus (probably sanitized at this point). Those LL staff members should have not allowed the Prok thing to be written - or should have thrown their beer on it as soon as it was written.

And yes, this had devolved into a discussion of the person, and not of the issue. Back on page 3 or 4 when I mentioned I wanted to close the thread, I did report it. As you see, so far LL has failed to carry out my wish that it be closed.

Just more griefing on their part.

High-five, jive talker! Are we in a 70's time warp?

That's the problem, the person IS the issue!

I know now and then i can be really hateful but prok radiate of hate against anybody and anyone that is sticking out of the mass, wether you're young, old, small or tall , if you have an opinion and voice it openly she will gets her rant on you.

Anybody like her living in an autonomous village community would be exiled very quickly.

It seems that I did.

/me proudly accepts the Oxymoron Cup from the Committee.

Ok now you've really crossed the line. I'm not going to sit here and let you advocate the wasting of BEER!!!!!

Please forgive.

Although that made me LOL, you missed the part where he said he left on a camping trip right after the event. It is plausible that he knew nothing of this.



I beg to differ. A quote from his unresume: "...over 15 years of experience participating in and managing online communities, from dial-up BBSes to popular forums to Second Life..." This is in addition to being a generally awesome, multi-talented and wonderful person.



I don't have a link to this and didn't see it in the original post. Are there actual pics of Lindens standing there while people wrote this?