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New Linux enhanced viewer: The Cool SL Viewer

Henri Beauchamp
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12-01-2008 07:25
Two new releases of the Cool SL Viewer are available for Linux from http://sldev.free.fr/

Cool SL Viewer v1.19.0.5 release 39
Cool SL Viewer v1.21.1.6 release 7

They both implement a new patch (Moon brightness patch) and RestrainedLife v1.15a.
Cypriss Fhang
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Ps3-ydl-sl?
12-03-2008 01:20
Ok Im on a newer ps3 running yellowdog 6. i am getting an error when i try to run and when i try to run wtihout the console i get nothing the error is.....
Running from /home/Alan/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.99587
Warning: Did not register secondlife:// handler with KDE: Directory /home/Alan/.kde/share/services does not exist.
/home/Alan/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.99587/secondlife: line 110: bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: cannot execute binary file
*** Unclean shutdown. ***

I am new to yellowdog and i am still learning linux. has any one else come across this problem? if so is there a resoulution 4 this problem?
i hope to here some positive feedback soon
Henri Beauchamp
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12-03-2008 03:28
From: Cypriss Fhang
Ok Im on a newer ps3 running yellowdog 6. i am getting an error when i try to run and when i try to run wtihout the console i get nothing the error is.....
Running from /home/Alan/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.99587
Warning: Did not register secondlife:// handler with KDE: Directory /home/Alan/.kde/share/services does not exist.
/home/Alan/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.99587/secondlife: line 110: bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: cannot execute binary file
*** Unclean shutdown. ***

I am new to yellowdog and i am still learning linux. has any one else come across this problem? if so is there a resoulution 4 this problem?
i hope to here some positive feedback soon

You cannot execute a binary compiled for x86 processors on a PS3 (which got a PowerPC processor), thus the error you get.

I'm not sure if it's even at all possible to run SecondLife on a PS3. You might try and compile a viewer yourself, if all the necessary libraries are available under Yellow Dog... Not yet sure how the SL viewer would handle the proprietary graphic chip (does it have a full fledged OpenGL driver available under YellowDog ?... I doubt so).
Yogaga Morigi
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OpenAL
12-05-2008 08:01
There exists a modded SL viewer with support for OpenAL, for which software sound mixing is much less a hassle than in the official SL (/263/57/291380/1.html).
As it is, I cannot mix those improvements with those of the Cool Viewer without recompiling them.

So, may I suggest that the OpenAL patch could be integrated into Cool Viewer, so that we can download a build with the best of the two worlds?
Thank you!

PS: oh and if it could be 64bits too ;-). Well it is soon Christmas, isn't it ?
Henri Beauchamp
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12-05-2008 08:45
From: Yogaga Morigi
There exists a modded SL viewer with support for OpenAL, for which software sound mixing is much less a hassle than in the official SL (/263/57/291380/1.html).
As it is, I cannot mix those improvements with those of the Cool Viewer without recompiling them.

So, may I suggest that the OpenAL patch could be integrated into Cool Viewer, so that we can download a build with the best of the two worlds?
Thank you!

I never encountered any sound problem with the standard fmod version of the viewers, in any distribution I ran them on. Please, make sure to edit the "secondlife" wrapper script and to disable any sound system which would not work on your computer (ESD, ALSA or OSS) by uncommenting the corresponding environment variable exports.

Your problem might also be the result of a bad support for your sound card, which is a common problem with the standard ALSA drivers in Linux...
I'd recommend that you install OSS v4 to replace the crappy ALSA drivers of Linux as well as that you disable any sound wrapper/daemon (no more need for them with OSS v4 as it got a fully transparent virtual mixer).
OSS v4 is really a dream and THE definitive solution to sound mixing under Linux. Trying it (it's free and open source now) is adopting it ! :)

OpenAL is going to be supported natively in future viewers (it's already part of v1.22), but I'm not planning to backport this to v1.19.0.5 as you are the very first person to complain about not being able to get sounds out of the viewer.

From: someone

PS: oh and if it could be 64bits too ;-). Well it is soon Christmas, isn't it ?

See my post farther below about 64bits support. Thank you.
Henri Beauchamp
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12-05-2008 08:50
Three new releases of the Cool SL Viewer are available for Linux from http://sldev.free.fr/

Cool SL Viewer v1.19.0.5 release 40
Cool SL Viewer v1.21.1.6 release 8
Cool SL Viewer v1.22.2.0 release 1 (experimental: expect nice crashes !)

They all implement RestrainedLife v1.15b (equivalent to Marine's v1.15.1 but with more bugfixes)
and a better UI patch (two potential crash bugs fixed).

Enjoy ! :)
Lance Corrimal
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12-05-2008 12:33
From: Henri Beauchamp
Three new releases of the Cool SL Viewer are available for Linux from http://sldev.free.fr/

Cool SL Viewer v1.22.2.0 release 1 (experimental: expect nice crashes !)


if i try to run this one, i get "a new version is available" and then it quits, claiming the update to be mandatory.
Henri Beauchamp
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12-05-2008 13:04
From: Lance Corrimal
if i try to run this one, i get "a new version is available" and then it quits, claiming the update to be mandatory.

Simply restart the viewer, after quitting it. It's because an old version number and/or channel is stored in your settings_coolslviewer_rc.xml (it has been while this setting file has not been used by a Cool SL Viewer). After the first start, the channel name and version shall be updated in this file and you should be able to log in.
Alternatively, delete the settings_coolslviewer_rc.xml file, or change the channel name in gridargs.dat for something else (for example --channel "Cool SL Viewer RC";).
Lance Corrimal
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12-06-2008 02:18
worked, thanks.
Yogaga Morigi
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12-06-2008 05:18
Never said I had no sound.
It is just that I cannot get software mixing at all (I don' know, maybe SL just ignores my DMIX device).
Which also means no voice chat, in the current implementation.
But anyway, if better sound support is coming for 1.22, I can wait.

Thank you for your answer!

PS: concerning 64bits, as I understand your point about not supporting an architecture Linden does not officially support, I completely disagree on the argument about 64bits being a lot of issues, one should not bother with it.

This is precisely because some pieces of software are not ported yet that 64bits might be *sometimes* inconvenient (for instance: crappy 32->64 flash plugin, or also impossibilty of French taxes declaration with firefox 64 because of the lack of certified 64bit jvm, ... ).
But I insist on the fact that outside those few examples, 64bits linux works like a charm.

To come back to SL, I don't know about the possible performance improvements of a 64bits version... all I know is that it might allow me, for instance to uninstall my 32bits 3D drivers (and other 32bits libraries too). And if it is just that, I agree this is a weak reason to make that effort.
Henri Beauchamp
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12-06-2008 08:35
From: Yogaga Morigi
Never said I had no sound.
It is just that I cannot get software mixing at all (I don' know, maybe SL just ignores my DMIX device).
Like I already wrote: install OSS instead of the crappy ALSA and any mixing issue will vanish immediately. OSS got a transparent virtual mixer (all applications see and use /dev/dsp, but OSS takes cares of the mixing for them all).

From: someone

PS: concerning 64bits, as I understand your point about not supporting an architecture Linden does not officially support, I completely disagree on the argument about 64bits being a lot of issues, one should not bother with it.
I never said no one should bother with it, I (and LL) just said that it's not worth it as far as the SL viewer is concerned.
Now, if someone with a 64bits system wishes to invest their own free time into making the viewer 64bits compatible, they can do (it's Open Source, after all). Yet; I will not be this someone.
Yogaga Morigi
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12-08-2008 04:30
That said, thanks for the advice, I will try OSS4.
Do they support as much hardware as ALSA?
(and why isn't it packaged in OpenSuse grr!).
Henri Beauchamp
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12-09-2008 07:31
From: Yogaga Morigi
That said, thanks for the advice, I will try OSS4.
Do they support as much hardware as ALSA?

OSS supports more hardware than ALSA, yes. :)
Hilby Yalin
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12-10-2008 01:45
From: Yogaga Morigi
That said, thanks for the advice, I will try OSS4.
Do they support as much hardware as ALSA?
(and why isn't it packaged in OpenSuse grr!).


There is one but, microphone in and auto sensing is not yet implemeted in the HD-AUDIO part. (But that was with my Dell latitude D630) :(
Henri Beauchamp
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12-11-2008 02:39
From: Hilby Yalin
There is one but, microphone in and auto sensing is not yet implemeted in the HD-AUDIO part. (But that was with my Dell latitude D630) :(

Well, I don't want to turn this thread into an OSS support thread, but the OSS HD-AUDIO driver *does* implement microphone (I've got HD-AUDIO here). Simply make sure the jack on which the microphone is connected is actually affected as an input in the mixer (type 'ossxmix'). By default, all jacks are affected as outputs.
onefang Rejected
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12-12-2008 03:15
From: Boy Lane
Thats more a hack rather than a patch. Henri said he doesn't want to include this in it's current form and it needs to be rewritten. It's a pretty useless feature anyway as you can simply copy and paste.


Not so useless when you do a lot of scripting and want to backup lots of them at once. Then everything you can do to make life easier is a useful feature. I never tried it but assumed this hack meant I no longer had to manually create files with the right name to paste into, then manually open these files in an editor? Or manually remove the contents of an existing file before pasting the new ones? I can safely assume that there was no need to manually spend a long time scrolling through lengthy scripts to highlight their entire contents before I can copy them.

Copy and paste is not that simple.
Innula Zenovka
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12-12-2008 04:27
From: onefang Rejected
I can safely assume that there was no need to manually spend a long time scrolling through lengthy scripts to highlight their entire contents before I can copy them.

Copy and paste is not that simple.


I may have misunderstood, but CTRL A (or Edit-Select All) works well for me when I want to highlight the entire contents of a file...
Hilby Yalin
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12-12-2008 04:57
From: Henri Beauchamp
Well, I don't want to turn this thread into an OSS support thread, but the OSS HD-AUDIO driver *does* implement microphone (I've got HD-AUDIO here). Simply make sure the jack on which the microphone is connected is actually affected as an input in the mixer (type 'ossxmix'). By default, all jacks are affected as outputs.


You are totally right on the ossmix part, but only the internal mic I got working, somehow it refused to use the jack label as microphone to use as input. It seemed to work as output, but definitely refused to work as input. I will try oss4 again (when I have time) on my desktop machine because Fedora Core 10 has done something to sound that did brake my voice setup trough wine.

But oss the definitely better pusle/alsa whatever... :-D
Boy Lane
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12-12-2008 10:57
From: onefang Rejected
Not so useless when you do a lot of scripting and want to backup lots of them at once.

I find it pretty useless.

Besides that, if you do a lot of scripting you may have a look at the patch and rewrite it properly? :). It's a taking and giving here.

From: onefang Rejected
Copy and paste is not that simple.

It is.
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Micio Supermarine
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problem
12-12-2008 13:22
Hi all,
mmmhhhhh ...maybe the package
"SecondLife_i686_1_21_6_0_CoolRelease_8-diff_files.tar.bz2" is corrupted,
I've download it twice but gave me errors to decomprime....
Could you, please, see if are problems in the package ?
I've use ARK to decomprime it...but no lucky.
Thankyou very much for your courtesy and disponibility
Johnnie Carling
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12-12-2008 17:04
From: Boy Lane
It is.


It is not ;)

At least till this is fixed

2008-12-13T01:00:36Z INFO: clipboard_filter_callback: Clipboard: An app requested an unsupported selection format 319, we have31
Henri Beauchamp
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12-12-2008 17:22
From: Micio Supermarine
Hi all,
mmmhhhhh ...maybe the package
"SecondLife_i686_1_21_6_0_CoolRelease_8-diff_files.tar.bz2" is corrupted,
I've download it twice but gave me errors to decomprime....
Could you, please, see if are problems in the package ?
I've use ARK to decomprime it...but no lucky.
Thankyou very much for your courtesy and disponibility

The file is just fine...

Try clearing your browser cache. The downloaded file must be exactly 13 659 123 bytes long.

If it is properly downloaded and you still can't decompress it, try using "tar": the step by step procedure to install the Cool SL Viewer from the command line is given on the site.
Henri Beauchamp
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12-12-2008 17:23
From: Johnnie Carling
It is not ;)

At least till this is fixed

2008-12-13T01:00:36Z INFO: clipboard_filter_callback: Clipboard: An app requested an unsupported selection format 319, we have31

Never saw this error, here... Did you report the problem on the JIRA ?
Johnnie Carling
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12-12-2008 17:58
From: Henri Beauchamp
Never saw this error, here... Did you report the problem on the JIRA ?


Not yet.... It might be related to VWR-7036 and VWR-5729 (In my case it started when I switched to KDE4), but I don't know if the new clipboard code mentioned has hit the RC's yet.

I probably should try the maint-viewer and see if that works.
Armin Weatherwax
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12-12-2008 23:25
From: Johnnie Carling
INFO: clipboard_filter_callback: Clipboard: An app requested an unsupported selection format 319, we have31

It's an useless and misleading INFO which forgets to report when it gets success. If the clipboard failed because of NO supported selection format it would give you a WARNING, which I guess you would have pasted, too, if you had got it.
Maybe KDE4 re/introduced an old/new Klipper bug ?
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