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Creating Second Life Last Names

Phoenix Psaltery
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03-20-2006 16:35
From: Daaneth Kivioq
Oh and wish to submit "Throatwarblermangrove"
(pronounced "Smith";) as a proposed name.


Hm. You must be Welsh. :D

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Jameschris Snickerdoodle
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Join date: 9 Feb 2006
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SL / RL and names
03-21-2006 22:36
I've read most of this thread and in general I'm very enthused about the emerging options for last name changes. I agree that open-ended last names would cause many problems and I like the boundaries that the current system and proposed changes provide. That said, I would also like a way to connect my RL with SL - I am hoping to invite professionals in my industry (biotech) to participate in SL, but the last name issue imposes a 'cuteness' factor that will be a cultural obstacle to involving professionals.

What about an option to enter real names in the 1st life area of our profiles, and provide an option to display the 1st life name along with the SL name? This is probably a lot like the nickname proposals in this thread.

A nickname or 1st life name option might make people less concerned about the selection and limits placed on the SL name.

I don't know how many snickerdoodle cousins I have, but I too would like to re-visit the choice I made on day 1.
Ethen Pow
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Join date: 15 Dec 2005
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I had my first name changed for free
03-22-2006 06:28
From: Argent Stonecutter
I'd be willing to pay US$10.00 (the price of an alt) for a new name, even if I could only do it once, and I don't see why LL can't allow this.


I had my first name changed for free thought it endded in a pain so... custom last names shouldn't cost as much a alt account...
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-22-2006 06:42
From: Brittany Bachman
I'd love to be able to use my rl name, as my first and last name in SL.
That sounds like a good idea. Let people pick the name on their credit card or paypal account or whatever. You could have real names show up in some distinctive way (white instead of yellow, for example).
Argent Stonecutter
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03-22-2006 06:43
From: Ethen Pow
I had my first name changed for free thought it endded in a pain so... custom last names shouldn't cost as much a alt account...
How did you get your first name changed?
Ryozu Kojima
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03-25-2006 15:19
Any news from the Lindens on how this is progressing?
Robin Linden
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03-25-2006 17:26
The project is scheduled to start soon and should take 8-10 weeks to complete. Unless other priorities take its place, it should happen sometime this summer.
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Ryozu Kojima
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03-26-2006 03:49
From: Robin Linden
The project is scheduled to start soon and should take 8-10 weeks to complete. Unless other priorities take its place, it should happen sometime this summer.


Thank you VERY much for your reply. :)
CJ Sullivan
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Join date: 24 Nov 2005
Posts: 1
Family name
03-27-2006 11:15
I just think it would be good to be able to change your name when you get partnered like you would in marriage, perhaps then you could have a group option so say you wanted to create a 'family' you could create a group and anyone you allowed to join your group would have their last names changed to the family name rather than just the title. Then you could charge the normal 100L for starting the 'family' or make it a little more for the priveledge of having an SL recognised family name.
Cthulu Calamari
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Join date: 14 Mar 2006
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What's in a name? Quite a bit...
03-31-2006 09:03
I can't thank you enough! :D
Shai King
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Join date: 27 Oct 2004
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!!!!!
04-03-2006 08:20
Finally!! Thank you so much!:)
Merwan Marker
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04-03-2006 08:53
From: Robin Linden
The project is scheduled to start soon and should take 8-10 weeks to complete. Unless other priorities take its place, it should happen sometime this summer.



Hi Robin -

Can you point me to where you'v detailed this project your speaking of?

Thanks!
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Ryozu Kojima
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04-03-2006 18:03
Also, I hope the Lindens don't let the fact that there's going to be a change in naming cause them to become lax about the current name list.

I can't make my alt... still... =(
Dmitri Polonsky
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Join date: 26 Aug 2005
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Nice idea but there's a downside
04-03-2006 19:04
Yes it would be fun to be able to make more custmized names, however there is a downside. As Follows:

1} people grabbing fast free alts to clone names for griefing purposes. it still can be done under the current system however it's a bit harder now than it would be with the new feature.


2} people who come in just to stir up trouble using oscene or trollish type names....i.e- Neal N. Bawb, I. F*qtyer Mom etc etc.

3} and of course those innocent few or young who may not know better than to use thier RL names and admit it to everyone, thereby openning the doors for themselves to be stalked IRL.

Nice thoght but IMHO, the bad far outweighs the good.
Chino Donaldo
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what exactly will be the protocol?
04-08-2006 17:01
will this be the procedure when this feature is released??


Creating your own Second Life last names

Please take a moment to read the following two idea descriptions. What do you think? Would you take advantage of the ability to create your own Second Life last name? Do these approaches make sense, or do you have another idea for increasing the flexibility of the naming system in SL? What seems like a reasonable fee for these services? Do you agree with the payment options (recurring or single fees)? Anything else you want to tell us?

Own a Second Life Last Name
Purchase a SL last name that doesn't currently exist in the name choices. You own the rights to the name and can transfer it to other residents through an invitation to use it. The name right is analogous to an Internet domain name -- it can be transferred to another person. The fee for ownership would be a recurring annual fee.

Start a New Second Life Last Name
You can create a new Second Life last name list and be the first to use it. The fee for create the name would be a one time set up charge.
Tre Giles
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04-08-2006 17:58
From: Robin Linden

Own a Second Life Last Name
Purchase a SL last name that doesn't currently exist in the name choices. You own the rights to the name and can transfer it to other residents through an invitation to use it. The name right is analogous to an Internet domain name -- it can be transferred to another person. The fee for ownership would be a recurring annual fee.

Start a New Second Life Last Name
You can create a new Second Life last name list and be the first to use it. The fee for create the name would be a one time set up charge.


Why charges? Just give us our dam last names already and be over with it. We are already over-paying for land and islands, now names, you've got to be kidding.... NAMES??? How about idea three:

Everyone gets to make their own custom name when starting a new player and it has to go through some filters then you get it for free, no charges, its not like its a money-making thing. There should be stations set up around SL, People can goto these stations and change their names' for 100L (something like that) not USD, L, gets sent to the linden filters (make those), then they get their name changed FOR FREE. FFF RRR EEE EEE.
Haravikk Mistral
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04-09-2006 05:47
Still agree on it being free. However I don't think you should be able to change it at will. Instead the only time you can change it should be to inherit the second name of your partner (if you choose one).

If you want a name that someone else has, but which you didn't sign your account up with, then you could pay that person to 'inherit' their second name. Allowing people to become part of a family or such. But if you want to sign-up another account with that name instead, then be our guest, +$10 for LL.
zaire Hansen
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Join date: 24 Mar 2006
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04-09-2006 09:35
From: tre Giles
Why charges? Just give us our dam last names already and be over with it. We are already over-paying for land and islands, now names, you've got to be kidding.... NAMES??? How about idea three:

Everyone gets to make their own custom name when starting a new player and it has to go through some filters then you get it for free, no charges, its not like its a money-making thing. There should be stations set up around SL, People can goto these stations and change their names' for 100L (something like that) not USD, L, gets sent to the linden filters (make those), then they get their name changed FOR FREE. FFF RRR EEE EEE.

i agree well mostly, i think it would be ok to changes your name, i know whan i use to play swg i got hocked up with a crazy guy i had to get a alt and lose evarthing becuz he would not stop stocking me.
crucial Armitage
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Join date: 30 Aug 2004
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04-11-2006 07:57
well i am very against " owning" a name for the same reasons as loki and kris stated this will no doubly cause a huge amount of unnecessarily dram and confusion among residents.
and open up a new way for residents with deep pockets to charge residents huge fees to use the name with out actually doing anything to contribute to the community at large.
and what happens say if i buy a name and then sell it to 100 residents and then i don't pay my recurring fee as the " owner " of said name or I just quit second life. What happens to the 100 residents i have sold that name to do they have there name changed because i have quit the game? can you say DRAMA!!!!

I personally just would like to be Crucial Armitage as opposed to crucial Armitage
Barbarra Blair
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Join date: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 588
04-11-2006 09:18
Really. Why would you want to let people sell names?? This seems like an invitation to abuse and grief.

I could see letting employees use names for role-playing purposes, but that involves creating an alt anyhow, not changing the name of an existing avatar. The alt account would be controlled by the employer.

We already have people owning land that they don't intend to use, and reservations on spaces that they don't intend to use; we don't need people tying up names that they don't intend to use as well.
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Nick Shatner
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04-11-2006 09:25
From: crucial Armitage
I personally just would like to be Crucial Armitage as opposed to crucial Armitage


They do capitalisation changes, just ask in the linden answers forum.
Elvgren Vargas
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Join date: 14 Feb 2006
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Working within the parameters.
04-11-2006 14:08
I absolutely love my SL name. I would not have come up with it had I not been forced to choose the last name from the Linden set.

I chose "Vargas" because it is the last name of one of the most kick-ass pin-up artists of the 20th Century- and to go with that, I chose "Elvgren," a tip-of-the-hat to Gil Elvgren, my absolute favorite of them all.

Working within the parameters of Linden's naming conventions was a good thing for me- because I brainstormed a fantastic name because of it. I doubt I would've come up with something so great if I was not challenged by the limitation. If we were able to use any and all last names, this place will be littered with fanboy references galore, and soon only echo franchised characters, not the unique ones we have now. (How many of us would be "Barbara Gordon?" I know I would fight for that one. Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark, Jesse Custer, you see where this is going.) Also, intimately knowing the legal foot-stomping of "ownership" of the lawyers of Marvel and DC, things will get really bloody around here in a big hurry, cease and desist galore-not because of the names, but because of the ownership over the "likenesses" and ownership over the copyrighted art. Don't even go there. The Linden last names are the great equalizers.

With that being said, it was with great disappointment to both my new SL husband and to myself when we discovered that his last name was retired and I could not remanifest with his last name. He would *love* it if I would change my last name for him, and I would do it in a heartbeat, so I am of the opinion that partners should have the option to change last names.

As example, in RL, we have the last names that were our parent(s). We all work within that, most people keep the first names given to them, or at least a variant of one of the names. In RL we have the ability to change any part of our name to whatever we want yet a very small minority bother to change their first and last names. The majority of these people that change are wives following the traditional Western model. I think that SL should reflect this popular RL option.

So! There you have MHO,

Thanks for the soapbox!
Elvgren
Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
04-11-2006 23:31
Ok i am massively confused here specially withe direction to the signup page. I don`t like this new idea of name changes and loki has a good point!!!!!!!!! We don@t need this option specialy since we might see copy cat names and peole ripping of designers names to sell copy cat products and griefting and hurting others. PLEASE LLABS FIT CURRENT problems before making things WORSE
Usagi Musashi
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04-11-2006 23:36
From: Loki Pico
Will it lead to people buying up names and selling them in world? Name barons around the corner? Thats fine I guess, I like my name and dont plan on changing it.

My main concern is the currently retired names remaining retired. Pico is retired and rare now, thus unique. Retired names are sort of like time slices. I like that they get retired, I hope that old names arent resurrected.

OMG we have this problem with cellphone numbers in japan you can buy 000-00000 or a 77-77777 number from a broker that buys and sells then at high cost. LOL you think LINDEN LABS would allow this without getting a cut! LOL NOWAY. hence this idea is dead in the water as they say
Ava Fleming
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Re: Names
04-12-2006 05:49
THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO DO IN SECONDLIFE IS BE ABLE TO CHANGE MY NAME WHEN I BECOME MARRIED. IT WOULD BE TOO AWESOME TO BE ABLE TO GET THE SAME NAME AS YOUR PARTNER WHEN YOU ACCEPT THEIR PROPOSAL. WOULD THIS EVER BE POSSIBLE? I WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY LINDENS IN ORDER TO DO SO! DOES ANYONE ELSE AGREE?














From: Robin Linden
We're looking for your feedback on two new features which we're considering as ways to allow SL residents to create their own names. You can give us feedback here, or collect a notecard from a Liaison or one of the distribution boxes at the Welcome Areas and at the Linden Office and drop your comments into one of the collection boxes at the same locations.

Creating your own Second Life last names

Please take a moment to read the following two idea descriptions. What do you think? Would you take advantage of the ability to create your own Second Life last name? Do these approaches make sense, or do you have another idea for increasing the flexibility of the naming system in SL? What seems like a reasonable fee for these services? Do you agree with the payment options (recurring or single fees)? Anything else you want to tell us?

Own a Second Life Last Name
Purchase a SL last name that doesn't currently exist in the name choices. You own the rights to the name and can transfer it to other residents through an invitation to use it. The name right is analogous to an Internet domain name -- it can be transferred to another person. The fee for ownership would be a recurring annual fee.

Start a New Second Life Last Name
You can create a new Second Life last name list and be the first to use it. The fee for create the name would be a one time set up charge.
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