Creating Second Life Last Names
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Lacy Musketeer
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02-24-2006 11:16
I have read over all this and I suggest offering a name change to Premium accounts. Perhaps, to make it affordable, charge X number of $L for a name change. The chosen name would have to be submitted for approval, however, to avoid derogatory or offensive names.
Only one name should be allowed per resident, unless they eventually form a partnership and wish the other's last name, or terminating a partnership and wishing their own last name back. Name changes to a parnter's last name should be included in the partnership fee, but with an extra charge. The same should be applied when severing a partnership. The same should apply to SL children of existing SL residents.
I meself would be able to afford a one-time payment of say $1000L to use my preferred last name.
Last names should not be treated as domain names, as in real life we see last names repeated quite frequently...and few people in real life complain about having the same last name as someone else.
The use of retired SL last names should carry an extra fee, in addition to the one-time fee for the initial name change. This would dissuade the use of retired names and aid in retaining their uniquity.
That covers everything I can offer my opinions on this topic.
I am anxious to see what comes of this.
I would gladly vote for this optio should it ever be made votable.
howlz, Lacy Musketeer
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Argent Stonecutter
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02-24-2006 13:52
From: Lacy Musketeer I have read over all this and I suggest offering a name change to Premium accounts. Perhaps, to make it affordable, charge X number of $L for a name change. The chosen name would have to be submitted for approval, however, to avoid derogatory or offensive names. Just let them change to one of the currently available last names, OR propose a new name which IF accepted they get to be the first bearer of.
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Melisande Aquitaine
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02-25-2006 20:44
Well, I still dont understand why the need to charge to have a secodn last name, weather or no one becomes partnered in game. Its a rather tedious proposition to charge for a name change, regardless of weather one is a Second Life vet or not.
With all the other character customizations available, not having the ability to choose one's last name is simply .... stupid. And to later charge for name changes in the future is also (imo) rather shortsighted too. There is no reasoning a charge for second last name changes. Is anyone really going to be inconvienced with a name change? I think not.
My two cents. Lol.
In the mean time... how does one recommend a last name to be placed on the current list? I wish to either get another account or kill off this one in favor of another, but will not do so unless I can choose the name I wish.
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Diamond Summers
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like Nike says.. JUST DO IT
02-27-2006 19:40
Well I personally dont care if there is a charge or not.. I think the thought of picking/changing your last name is a really cool idea... I think it would be much more realistic, however, if your name was only changed through.. marriage.. or paying to get it changed (for those who are in a mafia/family/group of some sort). All in all I say we stop talking about this already and just DO IT.. How long has this been a suggestion??? What is the hold up Lindens??
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Ace Arizona
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03-08-2006 02:26
In my opinion, SL reminds me of the movie The Island under a democratic dictatorship. We are given freedom, and really, we rarely see a Linden in person on our day to day travels. However, you break a rule, and that will change.
Nobody truly knows why we are here. There is no set in stone purpose. At the same time, the Lindens ask us for feedback with some things. We control so much, and they let us control even more.
This gives Second Life an incredibly unique feel, even on top of the basics. You can control so much but there are some things you can't. Allowing a new player to come in as Iamso Leet will ruin that.
I personally would like to see a perhaps monthly forum topic, in which people submit potential last names. The names are tallied, and another post is made for voting. The top X names that recieve the most votes get implemented.
However, i believe that relatives and couples should have the ability to change the last name as long as the following aren't broken:
- The name matches the last name of the other you are trying to 'match'. - The name is not retired.
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Melisande Aquitaine
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03-08-2006 03:21
What they should do is allow you to create your own last name at avater generation, and allow pre-existing accounts to change their last names if they so wish without any encumberance or surcharge.
After they do this, then allow anyone who wishes to marry and have the same last names to do so, (maybe a small fee for this). But also, if someone is "adopted" into a family there could be a one time surcharge for this too, to change the last name.
Its really sad that people are making this far more difficult then it needs be. With all the custimazations available, its shortsighted that they do not allow last names to be changed with ease.
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Torley Linden
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03-08-2006 03:33
From: Ace Arizona In my opinion, SL reminds me of the movie The Island under a democratic dictatorship. We are given freedom, and really, we rarely see a Linden in person on our day to day travels. However, you break a rule, and that will change. What an insightful observation! It's funny, because The Island is somewhat reminiscent of The Prisoner--and I've wanted to see something Portmeironish in SL for a long time. But I will say this: if you want to see me inworld, just send me an IM when I'm on, and I'll show up. The gridverse has grown mighty large but as avatar-centric communication is such a strong part of SL, I wouldn't want to miss out. 
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Nargus Asturias
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03-08-2006 03:42
From: Melisande Aquitaine What they should do is allow you to create your own last name at avater generation, and allow pre-existing accounts to change their last names if they so wish without any encumberance or surcharge.
After they do this, then allow anyone who wishes to marry and have the same last names to do so, (maybe a small fee for this). But also, if someone is "adopted" into a family there could be a one time surcharge for this too, to change the last name.
Its really sad that people are making this far more difficult then it needs be. With all the custimazations available, its shortsighted that they do not allow last names to be changed with ease. I'm against that. As that will bring in more horrible, impossible-to-remembers names like what happen in those MMORPG.
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Rhynalae Eldrich
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03-08-2006 13:06
While our culture might run on the “shopping mall” mentality (i.e., if I can think of it, I should be able to buy it), I don’t think that Second Life residents need the ability to choose any last name they wish.Having a set list where some names are periodically retired and others are added has worked fine, creates diversity while maintaining some semblance of order, and gives some continuity to the world.I would like to see residents have the ability to submit names for a public vote, the results of which can be taken into consideration by the Lindens when they select new names to introduce into Second Life.It’s rather nice knowing that there are some other “relatives” of mine out there, who I might bump into some day – but not too many of them. 
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Melisande Aquitaine
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03-09-2006 01:39
Im out then, if I cant choose the last name of my choice, then there is no reason for me to invest here and not be happy with the limited choice of last names.
Good luck on finding a middle ground.
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Seifer Kennedy
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03-10-2006 03:29
This concept just flat out sucks. People already are starting to screw up the first name area with names like, HotGurl, BadBoy, and Irock....(last name)
This just kills it for me, and the option to let all these people mess up the whole name deal sucks. The last thing I want is someone named Irock Mysocks to move in next to me. If you don't take your name serious how am I supposed to take you serious.
On the topic of marriage, that seems fine, seeing as how people always want the last name of their lover. But who knows even this could be a bad idea.
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Nargus Asturias
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03-10-2006 07:58
Hm...seriously. I think it's time someone should lock this thread  I think (all) the ideas have been expressed enough...
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Ima Trollop
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03-10-2006 11:50
From: Seifer Kennedy The last thing I want is someone named Irock Mysocks to move in next to me. If you don't take your name serious how am I supposed to take you serious.
Damn. I was just going to stroll over to your place and say hello. I guess this means you won't come to my housewarming party.
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Jazmina Firefly
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03-10-2006 14:51
From: Ghoti Nyak Great ideas!
How about also offering us the option to rename our current avatars?
Yes, some confusion may result when suddenly calling cards or friendships disappear, but people that wish to change their last names could be responsible for informing others whom they wish to know of the change. I'm assuming some sort of fee would be required as well.
I want this option because I would like to change my last name but do not want to face the impossible task of transfering all of my inventory, land ownership, etc to a new avatar.
-Ghoti I love this option that would be great for those of us that choose to have play family life in sl we could all have the same name without the worry having to remake
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Gus Plisskin
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03-11-2006 07:55
From: Robin Linden Own a Second Life Last Name Purchase a SL last name that doesn't currently exist in the name choices. You own the rights to the name and can transfer it to other residents through an invitation to use it. The name right is analogous to an Internet domain name -- it can be transferred to another person. The fee for ownership would be a recurring annual fee.
Start a New Second Life Last Name You can create a new Second Life last name list and be the first to use it. The fee for create the name would be a one time set up charge. Since many have well-established names, might it be possible to have aliases rather than complete name changes? Some scripted objects work on name rather than UUID. So this may break a few things. I hope to hear a bit more of the technical side.
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-11-2006 09:10
I'd be willing to pay US$10.00 (the price of an alt) for a new name, even if I could only do it once, and I don't see why LL can't allow this.
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Jaided Bailly
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03-11-2006 22:44
I didn't read all the posts because it was too long but I think that we should have the option to change our current names to what we want, without creating a whole new account. One reason I like this idea the best is if you have already situated yourself with land,houses, just stuff in your inventory and alot are not transferable or copiable. All the money spent on that account will be really of no use to you if you plan on creating another name to use as your main one. You have to re buy everything that is not transferable that you want to have on your new name or am I wrong? I know my skin is not transferable or copiable... cost me alot and i dont plan on spending 6k again.
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Daaneth Kivioq
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03-13-2006 19:14
From: Seifer Kennedy The last thing I want is someone named Irock Mysocks to move in next to me. If you don't take your name serious how am I supposed to take you serious. And So? What if I dont want to be taken Seriously? What if that is the whole point of what I want out of SL? "Don't take life so seriously - it's only life, after all." Oh and wish to submit "Throatwarblermangrove" (pronounced "Smith"  as a proposed name.
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Clin Seattle
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03-14-2006 18:10
I think it should be free 
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Brittany Bachman
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03-14-2006 21:53
I'd love to be able to use my rl name, as my first and last name in SL. I would be much more inclined to bring creative content in world... such as writing and other various things.
Just my two cents
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Kurshie Muromachi
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03-16-2006 19:26
Changing Your Existing NameHistoryI personally am not familar with the technical workings of the accounts in relation to the database but I am assuming that everything in the SL database is tied to a users UUID. So changing someones name via a database query seems like no problem as long as your UUID is kept consistent. As for privacy issues I can only see this working out one way. The person who had their name changed would end up having to agree that because their UUID is the same they end up revealing their previous identity to anyone who wishes to see. Cause honestly, residents will find out one way or another. In regards to script forward-compatibility if someone decide to do the following: if (llDetectedName(i) == "John Doe") In turn this should just automatically convert both names to UUID form and then make a comparison. Creating a New Last NameCreating SL last names should just be open to everyone, period. Other online worlds allow your own name to be chosen openly. In fact, it would be cool if we could even choose single names such as nicknames/codenames/etc. SL is a diverse culture and should not just be restricted to a first and last name identity. One way to get around this with the existing setup would be to use the first name as the single name field and void the last name choice/entry. I don't mind paying a fee for this just so long I can choose whatever kind of name I like whether the last name already exists or if I choose a single name only. I should not have to go through anyones invitation who already has the same last name. In RL, two people can have the same last name and not be related whatsoever. So, I personally do not like rights on names.
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Feynt Mistral
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03-17-2006 00:29
I'm definantly in favour of the start a new name feature. A recurring charge for a name doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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Draephon Harbinger
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03-17-2006 07:26
personally I think having a first and last name avoids one of my pet peevs...players named x0x0jon3150930x0x ..... I like being able to type names of people Im talking to. how about having a bigger list of last names for those people who arent that creative, and a text box for those of us who are?
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Merwan Marker
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Last Names as Business Account
03-17-2006 07:35
I want a Last Name option that allows me (customer) to establish a real life account so I can have my RL business presence tied directly into SL, ie. my business name, domain names, DBA's, sole propt., website linkage, etc. Once that is implemented, I for one, would be able to offer some resources within SL to my clients, small seminars, consulting services, multi-media presentations, etc. This can not be done as Merwan Marker. This would be an EXCELLENT business decision LL as many small RL businesses, especially in Healthcare, Finance, Insurance, Real Estate, Human Service, Non-Profit and Employment Recruiting require full disclosure of identity, credentials and business references. These customers/clients just won't do business without knowing who they are dealing with via. full disclosure. 
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Ryozu Kojima
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03-20-2006 14:55
My opinion on the matter.
The last thing I want to see is a bunch of Legolas00101023245 running around. Perhaps remove the ability to use numbers in a name (If such an option was ever there.) Or spaces, etc.
Maintain a forced first AND last name naming scheme.
If the naming system is changed drastically, allow current accounts the ability to change their name, and if so, put a new display in profiles of "Old Alias."
While maybe "Make your own" name wouldn't be very good for the world, what about some kind of name generation feature. Check out the Book of Names type name genorators where they use a scheme to generate names based on rulesets for all kinds of Genre.
I personally want to make an ALT, but I will not be doing so until I see a last name that satisfies me... It's not happening any time soon. =/
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