Coup d'Etat in Neualtenburg

Please do this. I no longer want Kendra's and my project associated with the mess that has become your project. Please post in your new official forum that you are in favor of a name change so we can all put this behind us forever.

~Ulrika~

Your City is a coop of people who came together to buy a Sim. Neualtenburg is the concept created by Ulrika --and to a lesser degree myself. Neualtenburg is not just a word --or you would be correct. Neualtenburg is a work of art and political science. The name being bound inextricably to the concept is at the heart of this matter. You are all just a bunch of peeps paying rent on an island owned by Sudane and playing make-believe while pirating someone else's work.




I don't think she's worried, Kevn.




Really? I was surprised at how low an amount of money was being offered. It's rather insulting and the fact that Ulrika had even considered it I would place as evidence that money was never the issue. $800 dollars? She could have made considerably more slinging beef pattys at McDonalds.





The City indeed should do both those things. And the sooner the better I imagine.



Not while I still breathe. You guys went after the wrong horsey. Ulrika may have been the brains of Neualtenburg, but I have always been it's heart, and the dream ain't over. Not by a long shot.

I wish you all the best of luck with "Colonia Nova" or whatever you will wind up re-naming it. Truly I do. But don't kid yourself --That Sim you are on will never be Neualtenburg. I dont think its really been Neualtenburg since it left Anzere.

Neualtenburg has always belonged on the main grid, without that it's really just a play-thing.

Timing is everything.

Did she do this in expectation of payment or was it a co-op from the beginning? With whom did she contract? Do you have a copy of a contract or even a log of discussions agreeing to pay for work to be done? Why did she allow this "copyrighted" name to appear on a sim that she later left vowing never to return.

In real life if you start a club, name it "erthgiiosd" and leave it, the group has no obligation to relinquish the name. The sim has every right to the name, she has none. She has no business with the name anymore according to her own posts.

My next question would be... Is she a capitalist only concerned for payment, as she appears now, or is she a socialist, seeking to better life for man-kind, as she appeared when she was running things? I think we have our answer.

Well anyhow, It's Friday night. I say if she has legal rights, let her exercise them. Then we will see what rights she really has. In the mean time, have fun.

The same thing applies to your break-away group. The coup d'état and attempted take over of the N'burg Projekt forum violated the city constitution. By breaking the law, the contract that all members of the cooperative had with the Projekt was broken and thus your association with the Projekt has been terminated. With this termination you no longer have permission to use the N'burg name. Of us all the one person who has maintained continuity has been Kendra. That is why she was able to restore rightful ownership of the forum.

It's no big deal. Just change the name of your sim and move on. *shrug*

~Ulrika~

It doesnt matter, Kevn. It's her's. By leaving the bargaining table "Colonia Nova" (your Sim) has left any ability to have Ulrika allow them continued use of her property.



You guys left Neualtenburg. You seem to be viewing things in a backwards lens.
Your Sim is just vapor. It has no rights to anything It's not a club house --it's pixels you rent from Linden Labs. Ulrika could make Neualtenburg in any format she wished --comic book, sand castle, 21 layer cake --it's her's.




I'm gonna go with better life for man-kind if those are my choices. Though I think you are being naive here.




She is --and we are.

That very well may happen if the rightful government, with which you had struck a deal, decides to make it so. I think the people of the sim will decide in the end.

I doubt they will be bullied though.

No deal was ever struck. The city broke off negotiations when I issued a counteroffer, stating that I wouldn't allow the dismantling of the N'burg forum.

I expected them to reply with a counteroffer and actually purchase the rights to N'burg, however they did not and must now change their name.

Personally, I kind of like the name Colonia Nova.

~Ulrika~

I didn't leave, my house is there on my land. I was just there, and your place is gone. Along with anything you owned. That's fine, but don't say I left.

She has as much right to use the name as anyone else. It's not a trademark. A sand castle would look cool..

You are not a money grubber, I see that. You deserved the cash more than she if you ask me. I think you are for the better life for man-kind. You seem quite honest. But I asked about her. There are 2 possible motives I see in that case either power over others, or money. The more I think about it money seems like the least likely.

Your house is on a Sim owned by Sudane Erato. Neualtenburg exists here.

I'm not interested in the dead forum, I bought into the sim.

I was pointing at Phase III of the Neualtenburg Projekt.

Phase II has ended.

I'm really looking forward to Phase III!

Phase I was Neualtenburg in Anzere that relied on tier contributions -- it ended due to dwindling participation. Phase II was the Cooperative that relied on land-use fees -- it ended due to a coup. Phase III is the Artists' City (Port of Neualtenburg), which expands upon the Artisanal branch of the previous phases. Kendra's goal this time around is to focus on the artisan while minimizing the disruptive influence of an oversized technocracy that plagued Phase II. You can read her proposal here. I'm looking forward to thriving in a calm, creative, supportive atmosphere.

~Ulrika~

Does that mean the hiatus is over?

Phase I failed... by a certain person's own words.. due to dwindling participation.
Phase II failed ... by most accounts, it seems, for the same reason as well as loss of "status"/power/influnece for a certain person and apparently has caused the ensuing drahma.

Phase III will likely fail for similar reasons and create yet more drahma.

That's my prediction.


Oh wait. Wasn't a certain person LEAVING SL after all? Hmm. Strange. Seems to be a drahma magnet somewhere around here.

Every Party has a pooper that's why we invited you

I am a parent now and will never be able to spend as much time in a virtual world as I did in the past.

In regards to thriving, however, I'm really looking forward to a place where I can set up my large selection of animations (where I got my start), my large collection of N'burg wares, and my political art, without the expectation of being there every single day. But most importantly, regardless of the amount of time I spend in world, I want to be affiliated with a talented and creative group of people who appreciate me for my contributions and want me there with them. Phase III is the antidote to Phase II.

~Ulrika~

Sounds like a plan. I'll be watching Phase III just cause it's all interesting, even if it goes down in a flaming wreck.

In the event of a flameout we pull the cord on the box that says Phase IV. Seriously though, without the cadre of unethical technocrats with a misplaced sense of entitlement, the end of Phase III is guaranteed to be comparatively tame.

~Ulrika~

Flash. You heard it here first.

You seem to almost depict Ulrika as a feudalist King. It's her horse, her land, her idea, her peasants, her treasurers, her councils, etc.

I can only repeat it again and again: she'd be NOWHERE if she did all this alone. If there weren't 'others', people who joined the group, played along, played together, N'burg would probably be long gone... And it seems very disrespectful from her to take so many people's contribution as 'nothing'. This is what bothers me.

How come she didn't even think of: 'If I get 800 USD for my works, I will give the first couple of ppl. who helped build the group and sim some share of it, because I would be nowhere without them'.

I call the lack of this egoism. And coming from someone who claims to be socialist... brr...

Maybe to you. I'm depicting her as the creator of an intellectual prpoerty, however.



It bothers me more that those people treat HER as nothing.



She did. And she would have. But I guess that ruins your need to depict her as villain.



Perhaps you don't truly understand socialism then. In any event I find it completely fascinating that some people are so quick to defend a group of people who villainized a woman and then attempted to walk off with her IP.

She had the idea, the initial builds, yes. But she would've got nowhere with the project had it not been for other people (the group).



If they did treat her as nothing, would they ban her? Remove her builds (when she insisted), etc? If they did treat her as nothing, that'd bother me, too. But still just a bit less than what she's doing.



LOL. She's no villain. But all that 'me, me, me, me' seems to send a rather egoistic message. What's worse socialism and her project idea implies a 'group of people working together, for the group's and everyone's benefit'.
Now what we see is 'an individual caring nothing for the group, looking to only maximize the benefit she can rip out from the group'.
The two don't mix well.

And second, this is the even more bothering thing: you don't kill your own child. Period. Even if it has done bad things, it's still your child. N'burg is Ulrika's child, yes, so to see her wanting to get it killed off, just because it 'didn't grow up the way she would've liked' is very saddening.

The group was in negotiations with me to purchase the right to use "Neualtenburg". They broke off those negotiations. Therefore they do not get to use "Neualtenburg". It is that simple. The sim is still there and their post-coup endeavor will go on. It just needs a new name.

It's time to rename the sim and move on. It's time to stop attacking me to get what you want. Rename the sim and just move on.

~Ulrika~

Actually its not too far off base when your in the big laser tag harnesses =D