Coup d'Etat in Neualtenburg

I was asked as a courtesy not to post on the N'burg drama unless their forum was no longer accessible to me. That time has come.

This morning I received an email stating that the city is terminating our IP negotiations. Simultaneously, every thread in the N'burg forum was locked.

It appears that a few members acting outside of the N'burg governmental system have chosen to take over the government, break off negotiations, and lock every single thread in the N'burg forum. This small group is currently deleting all threads and posts, even those by other citizens such as Kendra Bancroft, a city official and forum founder and moderator. The goal appears to be to lock down the old forum and transition to a new forum, to selectively control who has the ability to see content and who can participate in discussions.

This study on virtual-world democracy has evolved into a study on virtual-world fascism and real-world IP theft. Enjoy.

~Ulrika~

Isn't it amazing how she thinks any of us care?

Who, precisely, is "us"?

I care, so I guess that takes me out of the running to be part of "us".

those who not learn from history are doomed to repeat it...

This is a big stretch even for you Ulrika.

- How can the heads of the various branches of government (those that took the action), possibly be considered to be "outside of the Nburg governmental system?"

- How can the institution of a more open forum with even laxer guidelines than the LL forum, and with more free speech than the LL forum and with an explicit posted policy on non-censorship and non-deletion of posts be considered "selective control" over who has the ability to participate or see content?

Anyone interested can register for the new forum whether they are a citizen or not. Anyone who wants to post or discuss political ideas is also welcome and they are much less likely to have their posts edited or deleted than when you were in charge of the LL N'burg forum.


Twist away.

I don't know enough about the parties involved to have any opinion personally.

I will say that I've personally witnessed the phenomenon of the scum in a particular SL community rising to the top and taking over. I'll be polite and not name it, but I was once part of it.

I'm sooo out of it!

Isn't it amazing how complicate the running *one* single sim is? How many threads it generates, and how much public conflict?

I run 1/4 of a sim, and I have no conflicts at all. Could it be that something like virtual goverment actually *attracts* drama and people who *enjoy* drama and squabbling and petty conflict for it's own sake?

Naw...couldn't be.

But there was the innate flaw in the whole project. It was a political science project. Who is interested in that? People who like politics. Who like playing politicians. Get enough of those together in a group, and the fallout is inevitable. Go back two years to when this was being discussed. It was all foretold.

In general terms, this is a problem with a lot of groups, and not just in SL. Some people simply enjoy power, and go after it, and most people who have better things to do tend to leave it to them until it's too late.

Personally I have a sneaking suspicion that anyone who wants power probably shouldn't be allowed to have any. But hey, that's just me.

After selecting "find more posts by Vares Solvang", I found nothing particularly noteworthy in the first 2 pages of posts presented to me. I'm not suggesting that you've never contributed anything worth caring about since I only read a sample of your offerings. However, based on my sample read, I do think it more amazing that you'd come in here with this little gem of a comment.

Not really, considering they're almost all started by Ulrika, who no longer has any involvement whatsoever with Neualtenburg. There's some mild disagreement among the actual citizens of Neualtenburg, but this isn't it - it's a forum drama queen stirring up things to liven up a dull summer.

Also, Ulrika, aren't you supposed to have given up SL?

haha,

Expect RL legal action. Since you have terminated negotiations for use of my intellectual property and prior investments, I have no other alternative but to enforce my longstanding copyright for the name and to seek restitution. I recommend anyone who's involved in the project, who's not a party to the coup, to get out immediately.

Beyond violating RL copyrights, the members of the coup have completely delegitimized the virtual-world government. I'm sure you're hoping to sweep this coup under the carpet so you can resume your governmental role playing but as long as your facade exists, I will be there to remind others of the truth.

~Ulrika~

It's interesting that you say that, as I once made a similar observation to Mistress, and She agreed that that may be generally the case.

In short, I think you may be right.

Once you decided to move the Official Forum off the Linden labs forum you had no right to mess with MY forum --which is the Projekt forum --I expect all of you to resign as moderators immediately and allow me to unlock my forum and restore my deleted posts without interference.

You have your forum --please leave mine alone.

isn't it amazing who the first person to respond to the thread was?

Acting outside the system means acting outside the bounds of authority a given position in the government grants you.

I don't know if this happened, just clarifying .

I will be right behind Ulrika bringing down a rain of mini-Ulrikas with my Starax wand (I just have to type /101beetlejuice).

Where can I obtain one of these fashionable items?

Not really --your council is acting beyond it's scope in deleting my posts from the Projekt forums



Because the N'burg Government is the PEOPLE --not some half-assed tribunal of elected officials operating out of the bounds of law.



Go have your official forum elsewhere --but when you moved your forum, you gave up your rights to moderate the Projekt forum. The SC has no jurisdiction on the Projekt forum. not at all. Unlock it, resign as a moderator and allow me to run a decent board regarding Projekt issues"



you folks have been deleting my posts on the Projekt forum as fast as I can type them.
Geeeee --deleting with no authority or jurisdiction as a moderator ..hmmmmm --isn't that what you guys got all hinky about Ulrika doing?

My my my --that is amusing.

This is a different issue from the ones I objected to that Ulrika raised, which I won't comment on right now.

I just wish we could stick to the facts instead of immediately going off the deep end into giant exaggerations, personal accusations and pissy language and so forth. By saying that I am not referring to your comments at all Kendra, but a certain other person.

Well, I am not a citizen, but I care in the sense that this whole process has been an exemplar of human fallibility, and a demonstration of how difficult it is to design a system of government that is resistant to corruption.