1L Land Sales...

Hulka is one of these people that thinks just because it's legal it's also morally and ethicly correct.

So that means its ok to rip people off that make mistakes. I can think of many rl situations were that would get them in trouble.

If i came across some land that was L$1 I would buy it. The minute found out the seller made a mistake I would give it back.

What is the point of fucking someone up that's trying to have fun? That's what fucking assholes do, make money off grief.

Go to Eve Online for that shit. It's encouraged and expected there.

Though I can't think of any right now, I can think instaces where the opposite is true.

If you want to bid $10 on a teapot, but type in $100 and ignore the confirmation page for yoru bid, you are then *Legally Bound* to pay $100 for that teapot if you win the auction.

If you own a shop and miss-mark a price on a $500 PDA as $5, you are legally obligated to sell it for $5 if a customer brings it to the register with the price on it.

I keep forgetting, 488!

Oh yes and what about all the times he stole land from people due to the joining of land glitch?

I'm happy to report that the glitch in question has been fixed.

*hands you a dead horse*

Beat it for a while my arms getting tired.

Actually, I believe that's urban myth; it certainly is in this country, and I do remember looking at the position in the US as well. A seller does not have to sell a customer anything if it was wrongly priced.

I never said it was ok to rip someone off. But its still the sellers fault.

Yes sellers should be more careful of all the creeps out there.

You are doing a good job, I can barely recognize the horses face. Keep beating.

Land Rush/Wrestling Hulka do you have any other Alts I should know about?

Mind your own business

That's a different matter entirely. If you look back at my posts I've always talked about those who purposely chose to set their land for sale for $1 and ignore all the confirmation screens.

489. Will I make it?

What I'd really like to know is, how people can claim they are making a mistake when the system more or less asks, "Hey you! Are you SURE you want to make this huge arse mistake and sell your land to ANYONE for 1 L?" Sure, I can see it as a mistake typing in the price wrong at first. I can see it as a mistake putting in the wrong name at first. I can see it as mistake under the old UI where there was a price bug in joining parcels. However, when you make mistakes, and then get a dialog box and CONFIRM your mistakes..... to me, that just invalidates the whole "mistake" argument.

It reminds me of something I used to hear multiple times per day:


Me: Thank you for calling XXX Wireless, how can I assist you?
Customer: Hey, how come my time ran out on my phone?
Me: I do apologize for the inconvenience, but I see you purchased a one year subscription to your phone service which comes with X number of minutes to use throughout that year.
Customer: I thought I had service for a year!
Me: No, ma'am, while your service is connected for a year, you only have so many minutes to use throughout that year. If you used all your time you will need to buy more.
Customer: I never agreed to that! I wouldn't have gotten this %$#$% thing if I knew I only got so many minutes! Where does it say that???
Me: In says that in the terms of service, ma'am.
Customer: I never read the terms of service! I want my money back!
Me: I do apologize, ma'am, but the terms of service state that your minutes are not refundable and I cannot authorize a refund.
Customer: But I never read the $%$# terms of service!
Me: Again, I do apologize but you agreed to the terms of service when you signed up for your service and purchased your yearly subscription, if you didn't read the terms of service I cannot help you.
Customer: Fine! I'm cancelling my account! Give me a refund!
Me: I can certainly refund you for the price of your phone once you mail it back to the warehouse, but I cannot refund you for the minutes as the minutes are not refundable.
Customer: What?? I have to mail this back AND you're not giving me a refund?? Give me a $#%# supervisor!
Me: I am a supervisor, ma'am.


How does this relate? Well, if someone sets their land for sale for 1 L..... after not reading the terms of service and not paying attention to the dialog box which contains a clear cut warning..... the land swooper who "stole" it owes no apology, no land, no money, not even a thank you. Every ocean needs sharks, the same as every ocean needs fish who get eaten by the sharks, and if the little fish swims blindly into the open ocean and gets eaten by a shark..... the fish can't blame Linden Lab, they just created the water and gave the little fish the "beware of shark" warning signs, the fish chose to ignore them. The fish can't blame the shark, the shark is doing what the shark does best, going in for the kill. So, who is left to blame? The fish, of course, because ignorance of the rules is no excuse.

That interesting, because pretty much ever retail job I've had, that has been the rule.

490

I work in the cell phone industry, occasionally, in retail, and I've worked for three major cell phone companies. In all of them, if a phone was mistakenly underpriced in an ad or on the website we *had* to give them the phone for the advertised price.

Second Life is filled with two types of people. "Game" players, who play for fun (I fall in this category), and "business" players, who play for profit. Some business players in Second Life like some business players in real life, are cold and ruthless when it comes to business. The two types of players rarely gel with one another, and in an environment like Second Life whose motto is "Your world. Your imagination" where we all share one environment yet we're not all playing the same game..... it's envitable for gamer and non-gamer to clash.

It's often a matter of policy, the money doesn't make any difference to a big company and it would be bad publicity to fight about it. I'm pretty sure it's not a matter of law though. As I said, I could be wrong about the US situation.

As I said: That's what fucking assholes do, make money off grief.

If swoop daddy would just say he's here to make a buck and too fucking bad that's how he has fun, then I could respect that on a certain level. But too argue that snapping up land that is obviously not intended for public sale, refusing to give back, and selling it at 1000% profit is ethical? This is beyond "business" it's called being a motherfucker, RL or SL.

Taking advantage of someone’s ignorance, personal situation or trust for money is what grifters do. Legal or illegal it's still a crime morally

What a big pile off fucking bullshit.

Your friends? Such crap. You did not even know these people.

I bought a plot of land for 1/sq. There was NOBODY there and certainly not Land Rush, who wrongly claims I TP'd out without asking questions. In fact, I stuck around for a while. Land Rush is a bold faced liar. Some time passed, I got an IM from the previous owner, explaining it was a mistake. I returned to the land only to find that Land Rush had bought the land in the meantime.

He set the land to me, for the purchase price and I reset the land to the previous owner for the original price. The previous owners were very grateful for my co-operation having returned their land.

There was nothing redfaced about it and this is yet another attempt to defame me for no reason. Land Rush is merely playing mind games here.

They were NOT his friends, I did not swoop their land and run, it was quite the opposite.

Transaction proof Land Rush? Here is my proof that you are a liar.

15 75145129 Land Sale 2399 2006-09-10 01:38:13 2528 (previous owner)
16 75144458 Land Sale 12500 2006-09-10 01:34:53 2528 (second purchaser)
17 75142022 Land Sale 12500 2006-09-10 01:22:52 2528 (second purchaser)
18 75136518 Land Sale 2399 2006-09-10 00:57:45 2528 (previous owner)

As you can see, Land Rush bought the land nearly an hour later. In that time, I was NEVER contacted by the previous owners. Shortly thereafter, I was contacted by the previous owner and asked to return the land. I teleported there, and unlike the land swoopers who are posting here, refunded Second Hand Land who in turn refunded the previous owners.

These were not Land Rush's friends, as I have contacted them and they claim they do not know Land Rush from Adam.

This is, yet another attempt by Land Rush (who's main's name rhymes with Nestling) by desperately attempting to defame me for stopping his mis-deeds.

Unlike him. I returned the land immediately, when requested with no questions asked.

Sounds like he's pissy because he missed out on another grift. He was probablly busy getting his ass flamed in the SC forum at the time.

Nooooo. Am I breaking someone's concentration?

Interesting. So you are saying you wait for the previous owner to contact you? And here you've been chatising me for not contacting them. Further more, I've known the owners longer than I've known anyone else in SL. More erroneous statements made by the self proclaimed queen of the forums.

Also interesting to point out that I returned the land. According to Weedy Herbst I never return land... says so in the same post.

*knockknockknock*

Anybody home?

Sound a bit jittery.

Truth must hurt.

You knocking the dead horse too?