Anshe's land for sale

Nope, I love Panda's purse, it is one of his signature accessories, along with his cigarette and headphones askew. But thanks for overreaching.

Yes Lianne, that is why I belive those scripts that kill flying people are against the TOS also, because they do not only prevent people from going to theit destination from a certain direction, but often crash people or send them to a way different sim.

In general I hate all kind of restrected areas. I have never used the red bars myself.
I do not really know what is secret in here. If someone sees my naked avatar when I change my clothes, I could not care less.

I belive though, that as long as a person is able to access the land even if one or two sides are blocked, it is not against the TOS. Its very annoying of course. Often people with tiny 512 sqm lots use these bars. I do not really know why, since one can stand next to it and see and hear all anyways.

I belive what SL should have is some improved landowning tools. Like you should be able to see a list of all people who has built on your land and selectivly return objects of certain persons.
Maybe when a lot is restricted it would show invisible for others than those on access list. could show empty land for others for example.

Hey! I thought you said we were supposed to be picking fights. *sigh* I tried.

/me pins down Cristiano and tickles him until he giggles uncontrollably!

~Ulrika~

LOL

Ulrika:


Wow, and Cristiano said I was melodramatic and hyperbolic.

I don't make this stuff up, she just comes out with it and all you have to do is cut and paste it, and there it is.

*Consults 1,827-pp GUM (Grounded Universal Morals) handbook, January 2004 Authorized Edition, Feminism Utilitarianism Approved Translation, for section II, par. 3, line 48, "Thou shalt not put too many for-sale signs on the land". Oh, and section MXII, par. 187, line 62, subsection a), footnote 178: "Do not triple negrate a person because they made you mad, that's an abuse of the system."*

There. Since our masters didn't get it written, I've drafted it for you. Why don't you run it up the flag pole and see if anybody salutes.

"Let's fight"

"Them's fightin' werds!"

-The Simpsons

Hey! That's pretty funny. I actually laughed. *giggle* I fully plan on stealing that "run it up the flag pole" thing and pretending it's my own. I'll sell it with a smiley though. Or maybe two.

You know, if you weren't so grumpy all the time you'd be a lot of fun in the forums.

~Ulrika~

I say it out of love, Prokofy

I can't answer this poll - it's too skewed and I am wondering what Anshe Chung's purpose was when creating it.

As for finding land, I spent about an hour yesterday, checking the map for land sales, teleporting and viewing. I either found a great piece of land at a ridiculous price, ie at nearly L$10 a sqm or in one case over, which I will not/cannot pay, or land that was nearly vertical or oddly shaped, or the land was great but next to or faced what I thought were ugly buildings/ club etc.

I did go to Maui but flying there is a pain so decided against.

So the search continues.

Alexa

How is this nice?

you want to see bad signage?

Sometimes I consider taking some capital, dominating the auctions, and then dumping all the land simultaneously. Like say, 20-40 sims worth. Just depends. However, it would be easier just to push each auction over the profit/loss line, so recovering any profit would be very difficult.

I'm not planning to do this per se, its just that if you push too far, someone will push back eventually. Doesn't have to be me.

i encourage you to do this maxx. put your money where your mouth is. then come back to the forum with some real information. and a big debt.

nice plan brainiac. prediction - you will self distruct. i will make money.

Unless he's worth a comfortable amount of RL money. In which case, no big deal for a dedicated someone, unencumbered in real life, making six figures, to bring down the SL land market for awhile. Just to make a point, and for the entertainment. Hmmm.

The point wouldn't be to make money, 'brainiac' .. *grin*

The point would be to cause any profit to disappear. However, it is a drastic move, and would only be fostered and encouraged by practices that have destructive ends themselves. This isn't a debate, just pointing out that some don't have the restraint I do. So sit down, have a drink, enjoy selling land. That is, until someone makes it more interesting.

Have a great day

i doubt maxx is one of those. his happiness is too deeply staked in the sale sign "problem."

how much money do you think it would take to shake the SL economy for a month? i would say tens of thousands of dollars. only a disturbed person would do this for entertainment. or a multi millionare.

under this system, i will always make money as long as sl grows. no matter what a deep pocket experimenter tries.

Mmmm, thanks to the many people participate in poll

As for my "skewed" and "biased" poll that doubles both as one stupid "troll" and one ingenious scheme toward world domination: This is so funny But I must disappoint here. I am simple girl who became curious about something and posted one question. And I am happy some people did honest effort at answering that question.

Some other people also did honest effort at answering questions, but wrong questions. The following questions I have not asked:

1. Do you want Linden Lab create one beautiful national park where Anshe's for-sale land is?

2. Do you like Anshe?

3. Do you think Anshe has too much land?

4. Do you like this poll?

5. Should we tax realtors to death?

6. Do you think Anshe's signs are more beautiful than no signs?

7. What is your opinion about <random drama xyz>?

Thank you for all the well meant answers to these questions. But as interesting those topics may be and as much "entertainment" value they may have to some, please forgive me if I try stay on topic here

I must also disappoint you in that I am not considering option of paying thousands of US$ of tier fee per month to provide national parks all over Second Life. Like most other residents I pay tier to use land in one way or another. Sorry for being so greedy

So what is true point of this poll? Well, I am a little bit tired of have my land constantly compared to unused land, or land as it is before Linden Lab sells it. Because, like every other land owner, I pay for every single square meter of my land. Like the owner of big black box called "club", like the newbie with standard house, like owner of beautiful high prim villa next door or... like you. Like average land owner. And "average" is not meant in negative way. Well, if you say being "average land owner" is insult, then you insult at least 50% of all land owner

Now what I find interesting if I look at result of this poll is that 2/3rd of people voted for walls, roofs and lotsa prims instead of trees, flowers and the occasional sale sign. From this I conclude that lag issue and nice view really isn't that big one concern. Maybe I completely underestimate social desires many of us have. One wall with one roof usually is also place with neighbour live inside. One can go and chat and have neighbour visit spontaneously, anytime, being nice surprise. From for-sale land no neighbour arrive to say "hello" Big club and mall in neighbourhood may be popular meeting place. And high rise tower may provide nice skyline and protect from sunburn Sorry, I think I just enjoy myself too much now

Getting back to serious topic I would like ask: how do you think Anshe Chung could make her for-sale land look more like average inhabited land? Mmmm, maybe people can send me folders with easy to drop copies of their buildings? I could start drop those to make land look less lonely

Any other ideas?

Yes, as long as there is a profit to be had. Once that evaporates...? Again as a intellectual exercise, I wonder how long it would take to 'break' the casual land-dabbler. 6 months, a year? Imagine a whole year without profit, or mere smatterings of L$ when you could achieve it. Seems that would be frustrating, no?

Umm, obey the Kantian Categorical Imperative? A simple summation is "don't be a jerk".

People have taken umbrage at:

1. Anshe flattening the land
   
2. Anshe cluttering the world with redundant signs
   
3. Anshe boxing people in with land bans
   
4. Anshe obstructively terraforming at parcel boundaries
   
5. Anshe pretending she's a "simple girl" who is unfairly picked on
   

If you want to buy land and sell it at what the market will bear, that certainly is your privilege. If you want people to like or appreciate you despite your antics, you are probably going to be waiting a while.

here's a question for the land brokers: with so many people tiering down, are y'all worried that sl won't attract enough people to purchase that existing land plus the new sims as they roll out?

the market is changing. the need for land is suddenly different. it seems the population's general attitude toward land is that we don't actually need so much after all. rather than buying meterage like crazy people, we're stepping back and asking ourselves "how much do i really need to do this." i would be concerned that even beautiful maui would sit there for months or have to eventually be sold at a loss. but i'm not in the industry.

I do not quite know what has caused Maxx to have these kind of issues.
Seems one is under no circumstance allowed to make a profit on land. I cannot help wonder why?

What makes land so much different from clothes, skins, furnitues, vehichles etc?

Mal, you've summed up my feelings perfectly. This continual "I'm a simple girl" rhetoric is disingenuous, to say the least.

ok as a mental excercise, i will consider the possible ramifications of an incredibly wealthy market manipulator dumping USD to ruin my measly 100-200 USD a month income either tonight or this weekend.

but in the meantime, consider this. there is already an wealthy player pushing up the bidding prices above profitability (cost benefit of time+capital vs profit) for many land traders. that player is anshe. she is maintains one of the lowest margins by using volume as her leverage and by diversifying into the actual exchange of L$ to eliminate the service charges the rest of us are incurring on the exchange.

Anshe is the walmart and overall one of the best bargains for land in SL. i say this as her trivial competitor. smaller traders survive because anshe is not ubiquitous. but all must compete for the same market, while anshe, through shear volume has the advantage of being able to maintain a lower margin consistently. you will observe, very few have an average bidding price as low as anshe. why? because on most days, you have to outbid anshe to win land. then you often have to sell higher than anshe to return a profit. so the land business is already a terrible business of patience, research, cunning, and wit. it is now an enterprise few would have the ability to perform and enjoy.

the community should love their land trading experts. at any given time we can give you the price of land. by regulating the market, we maintain land prices that are less volatile from region to region, from day to day, and from parcel size to parcel size. in the need for a quick sale, players can turn to one of amongst dozens of land traders for a quick sell on the traders margin. and finally, in competition for buyers, we maintain market prices for land. the large sellers like anshe (and blue) are the market setters on the sell side.

i have tremendous respect for anshe's brilliant and gutsy business strategies, more even than my awe for merwan at al. for there ingenious service they've developed.

All I'm going to say is that I have sold more land without For Sale signs, and faster - than land with For Sale signs.

(Oh, and I have apartment tenants who have asked me if I can do anything about the Oriental For Sale signs they see out of their windows. Sometimes I buy the land to remove them. When the signs are on land that is not set for sale (Cottonwood, hint, hint) there's nothing I can do.)