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Anshe Chung
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01-06-2005 08:52
I have much land for sale in Second Life. Most is empty, except for maybe some trees, little oriental sign on it, maybe some flowers. I would like to know if my land in your sim make you happy or unhappy
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Lecktor Hannibal
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01-06-2005 08:54
No need for the signs as has been reiterated over and over. The signs themselves are not unattractive as you love to point out. It is the endless sea of them after you partition the land into 512 and 1024 plots, and plop one in each. Simply with view/property lines or even easier in the world map, land for sale button or egads, in the find menu, folks can tell quite easily what is and what isn't for sale.
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Aaron Levy
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01-06-2005 08:59
In all honesty Anshe, most of the time they don't bother me. What does bug me is when it's obvious that there is more than one plot available (because of the color of the border of the land), but there is a sign on every single parcel for sale. It's kind of redundant I think. One or two signs is enough -- dozens is overkill.
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Khamon Fate
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01-06-2005 09:06
i can't participate inyour pole because you don't have any land for sale in any of my sims. all my neighbors trade land to keep it "in the family." it's the only way we can maintain themes, maintain views, and protect ourselves from incapacitating lag.
i will say that i prefer your generally short, navigable, pretty oriental malls stacked around the telehubs more than i do any of the others. most of the others are either butt ugly or way too tall, or both. btw, if any of that telehub land in muhala (sp) is proving burdensome for you, i might can afford a small bit. ha ha ha longshot, but it never hurts to ask eh. _____________________
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Duuya Herbst
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01-06-2005 09:14
In all honesty Anshe, most of the time they don't bother me. What does bug me is when it's obvious that there is more than one plot available (because of the color of the border of the land), but there is a sign on every single parcel for sale. It's kind of redundant I think. One or two signs is enough -- dozens is overkill. Exactly. Those signs is what made me move out of huron when you bought up that large parcel. Think of your neighbors! |
David Valentino
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01-06-2005 09:14
Umm..where is the option:
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pandastrong Fairplay
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01-06-2005 09:29
God this is stupid. You don't care, so stop the posturing.
I neg-rated one of your for sale signs after you put about 30 up next to my little 512 plot. I even included a little joke as a message, to perhaps add some levity. You then trip-negged me and banned me from the land bordering my 512 plot. You are a griefer who has enough resources to grief within the rules. You specifically banned me from the land to lessen my enjoyment of SL. I wound up selling the land and taking a hit. I was a fairly new player, and your disgusting attitude and "poor-me business girl" attitude turned me off to the process of land ownership in SL. ![]() _____________________
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Shiryu Musashi
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01-06-2005 09:54
well, when you neg rate someone for whatever reason you can as well expect them to react.
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pandastrong Fairplay
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01-06-2005 10:00
Flaming, unpolite posts like this one don't help either... Yes they do. When one person controls a majority of one resource, speaking out about it makes someone who was affected negatively by that person's actions feel better! I know I do! ![]() Thanks for the advice though! I can't find my Internet etiquette book. Do you publish???? _____________________
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Shiryu Musashi
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01-06-2005 10:01
Lol if you feel affected negatively by a bunch of for sale signs, i wonder what you will do when someone buys the land near you and build a nice purple cube club on it
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Shack Dougall
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01-06-2005 10:01
Simply with view/property lines or even easier in the world map, land for sale button or egads, in the find menu, folks can tell quite easily what is and what isn't for sale. View>Show Owners makes it abundantly clear, but a lot of people don't use it. In general, I don't mind the signs and empty land is the bomb. ![]() My perfect plot of land would be about 4096m2 surrounded by a sim full of L$10/m2 PG land. ![]() _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-06-2005 10:03
Anshe,
Why do you always make such skewed polls? You aren't seeking any answer by doing that. I thought that you were asking a genuine question that you wanted an answer to, but instead you continue to make polls where all of the answers lead to the conclusion you want. It is at least refreshing to see that people are voting against the point you are trying to make. _____________________
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Juro Kothari
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01-06-2005 10:08
Considering Anshe isn't the only person dealing in land, and from the signs I've seen, I'd have to say Anshe's signs are the best out there. Sure, dozens of them might be a bit redundant, but at least she put some effort into them other than just a rotation script in a cube.
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pandastrong Fairplay
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01-06-2005 10:17
Lol if you feel affected negatively by a bunch of for sale signs, i wonder what you will do when someone buys the land near you and build a nice purple cube club on it No, wasn't affected negatively by for sale signs. I thought they were aesthetically intrusive so I neg-rated them. I WAS affected negatively by being banned from land bordering my plot. Awesome reading comprehension though! _____________________
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Dallas Moreau
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Join date: 7 Dec 2004
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01-06-2005 10:27
So you think most of your customers are "average" people who build "average" homes? Maybe they are, and maybe they do, but I don't think I'd tell my customers that they were anything but "the best."
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Dale Zephyr
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Join date: 23 Sep 2004
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01-06-2005 10:31
I have to admit that I may be in the minority as I happen to like Anshe's signs. I think they show a lot of effort and care in their creation. There can be no doubt that they are much much better than the floating rotating cubes and buoys and other very ugly things I have seen advertising land for sale. As to their necessity at all, when I have looked for land in the past quite often I just fly around areas that I like and look for signs. So, I guess I find them useful.
On a side note - I am amazed at how many times I have to remind myself that there are only adults playing this game and posting on these forums. The kind of mud slinging and name calling and childishness I see here makes me wonder how effective LL is at keeping out the adolescents. Well ... just my opinions. |
Shack Dougall
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01-06-2005 10:32
i will say that i prefer your generally short, navigable, pretty oriental malls stacked around the telehubs more than i do any of the others. most of the others are either butt ugly or way too tall, or both. The ones I hate are the floating and/or rotating "for sale" cubes. _____________________
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Khamon Fate
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01-06-2005 10:41
The ones I hate are the floating and/or rotating "for sale" cubes. those ARE terrible. and they were around, and being complained about, long before anshe's signs appeared. but i was talking about the malls themselves. of course i have the easy advantage that my telehub "shop" is a small park full of trees. any future ones i aquire will be the same. so maybe i'm not the best critic of what people build to enclose telehubs. still, i appreciate anshe's attempt at making the enclosures attractive and easy to navigate around and blue's attempt to make his as low texture as possible. what they need now is some good pr. _____________________
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
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01-06-2005 10:47
God this is stupid. You don't care, so stop the posturing. I neg-rated one of your for sale signs after you put about 30 up next to my little 512 plot. I even included a little joke as a message, to perhaps add some levity. You then trip-negged me and banned me from the land bordering my 512 plot. You are a griefer who has enough resources to grief within the rules. You specifically banned me from the land to lessen my enjoyment of SL. I wound up selling the land and taking a hit. I was a fairly new player, and your disgusting attitude and "poor-me business girl" attitude turned me off to the process of land ownership in SL. ![]() Contrast pandastrong's honest depiction of retaliatory griefing and the affect it had on him as a new player with Anshe's disingenuous image-control post masquerading as a poll. Telling isn't it? ~Ulrika~ _____________________
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pageus Thorn
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Join date: 22 Apr 2004
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Signs of the times..
01-06-2005 10:48
The signs themselves didn't bother me.. but what did bother me was wehn i started buying land around the one 512 that my friend had to help them out, the next day you raised the price considerably.. but yet the fact that my land borders lindin protected in a snow sim.. and then just beyond that is another area, with many signs.. and amazingly enough.. the cost of the land was what i had arriginally paid for it.. however.. the only reason i would buy it is just to have the 2 sides of the sim, since the primuse would be out of the question.. now i have a build that is limited... and i have to pay quite a bit more than i did before to expand it.. now i would understand if it was an overall change in price.. however.. in my expansion.. i found a few original price plots in the same sim.. interestingly enough it was seperated by the more expensive land.. I'm not out there to buy up the land and "rape" a sim.. just someone who wants to have a nice area for my group and I to build the houses and do the coding work that we want to without bothering anyone else. just my .02 worth.
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Justin Delvecchio
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Join date: 16 Jun 2004
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01-06-2005 10:49
im just jealous...anshe gimme some money or i will tell them about the midget porn you produce and the 11 yr old cuban kids you have working on SL to better your business...
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pageus Thorn
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Join date: 22 Apr 2004
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01-06-2005 10:55
im just jealous...anshe gimme some money or i will tell them about the midget porn you produce and the 11 yr old cuban kids you have working on SL to better your business... LOL....i kid i kid.... ![]() I thought i had the market on 11 year old cuban kids.. wait, mine are from uganda.. sorry, my bad.. _____________________
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Bodhi Kojima
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Join date: 10 Feb 2004
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01-06-2005 11:01
i would prefer a less slanted poll myself. and who the hell are you calling average? i haven't seen any of your builds...
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Prokofy Neva
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01-06-2005 11:10
You might get better answers if you ask whether people prefer your signs versus the ugly spinning boxes, etc. I voted "yes" because a blank parcel with just your little Asian sign and some flowers is dollars to donuts an improvement over an ugly build.
Hmmm....a sea of for-sale signs? I wonder about that. I've actually seen that land seems to sell better when it has a for-sale sign on it. Nobody has to wonder if it is for sale! Newbies especially sometimes don't know they can check a land's status by just right-clicking on it. Getting the for-sale sign back in your inventory and getting an e-mail out-of-game about that transactions makes a nice inventory control record. Sure there are other methods for inventory control but that one works automatically with existing game technology. I've tried putting up lots of boxes but made them "phantom" and very light and opaque with pictures of ravens or weathercocks or whatever, rather than ugly spinning bright boxes. However....I have to admit that ugly bright spinning boxes draw people over to them -- I've watched it happen. And then they sometimes buy. We often forget that all these rapacious ugly land-baron tactics that everyone hates were developed as solutions to problems that real estate brokers face. They don't have efficient ways to advertise because there is no in-game classified where they could advertise land for sale as well as for rent, and events tied to promotion of real estate. Some people actually like a real estate agent to show them around and would come to an event that gives them a tutorial or a free prize just for looking -- just like in RL. But the existing snarl anyone would face if they put an ad like that up on the events board -- and the Linden ban on such ads -- tells you just what obstacles there are to commercial activity in the game. Sure, there's a land list. But it's got both Linden-auction land, first-land, and for-sale land in it, it is a huge long list, and sometimes slow in alphabetizing and opening. It shouldn't be the only tool. I've also considered just area notecard givers so that there's essentially only one item to look at other than the land, not the sea of for-sale signs. I don't know if it is enough. Common sense and logic dictate that the avarge buyer can fly around, right click, look at lists, and not have to have a for-sale sign. And yet the actual testing of conditions in the game show that people respond to a spinning box as they fly around, and they buy. It's a typical SL gap between the actuality of people's behaviour, and the idealism about how they should behave in that utopian metaverse free of crass commercialism that many would like. |
Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-06-2005 12:48
We often forget that all these rapacious ugly land-baron tactics that everyone hates were developed as solutions to problems that real estate brokers face. They don't have efficient ways to advertise because there is no in-game classified where they could advertise land for sale as well as for rent, and events tied to promotion of real estate. For-sale signs have to be the most unnecessary thing in SL -- aside from land barons. ~Ulrika~ _____________________
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