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The L$ Pop Was Great! Now I'm Selling!

mcgeeb Gupte
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07-05-2006 20:27
From: Pan Fan


Tell me something. Why have your money sit at a level which will never be sold? You may as well keep it in game an invest it in something or use it to create something people want to buy and thus will demand L$ to buy it with. And if it was just going to sit in your in game account then having the money sitting at 240 doesn't drive the value of the L$ up at all, as it is just idle money sitting there which will never be sold just as if it was sitting in your in game account.

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You act like it could never hit 240. If he doesn't need the dollars right away why not hold out and wait. Not everyone sells as they earn. The ones that wait for the best rate do the best at selling.

Last October it hit 250. Without dwell and basic stipends its possible by October it could be that much again.
Cheyenne Marquez
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07-05-2006 20:29
From: Pan Fan
I figure the L$ will stop gaining value now (Around 301L/1USD) and on Tuesday lose about 5L value per dollar, so back to about 308L/1USDand then start to lose value again, but slower than before.


From: Pan Fan
Yea, with half a million and growing. Back up to 302. 308 by Tuesday and then slowly losing value from there.


From: Pan Fan
308 by Tuesday. You don't HAVE to sell right now, but now is when you'd get the best deal.


From: Pan Fan
Even a better time to SELL SELL SELL! 315 by next week!


From: Pan Fan
299L/1USD now! TIMMMMMBER! SELL now, you still have time!


From: Pan Fan
Almost 7k people online and still the Linden is falling! Just wait until Tuesday; timmmmber. SELL NOW!


From: Pan Fan
Actually, I feel the value on Saturday will be just about what it is now +/-3%.


P.S. - The exchange rate is approximately L$250k away from going under the L$300/1USD mark .... again.


Moral of the story:

Predictions are worthless if you change them daily according to the ongoing and changing trends of the exchange rate.

I really do want to believe you. I just can't because you have zero credibility.

Please stop :)
Teufel Hauptmann
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07-05-2006 20:31
Hmm, good luck to you all! Many seem to need it...

Cheers!
Pan Fan
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07-05-2006 20:35
From: mcgeeb Gupte
From: Pan Fan


Tell me something. Why have your money sit at a level which will never be sold? You may as well keep it in game an invest it in something or use it to create something people want to buy and thus will demand L$ to buy it with. And if it was just going to sit in your in game account then having the money sitting at 240 doesn't drive the value of the L$ up at all, as it is just idle money sitting there which will never be sold just as if it was sitting in your in game account.

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You act like it could never hit 240. If he doesn't need the dollars right away why not hold out and wait. Not everyone sells as they earn. The ones that wait for the best rate do the best at selling.

Last October it hit 250. Without dwell and basic stipends its possible by October it could be that much again.


No problem. You can do ANYTHING you want. It is a free market and I respect that. I can simply think of MANY things to do with those MILLIONS of linden which would further create demand for the Linden and thus help keep the value up. Just letting that money sit there for months is really a waste. Good luck getting to 240, you will need it!
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07-05-2006 20:38
From: Cheyenne Marquez
Moral of the story:

Predictions are worthless if you change them daily according to the ongoing and changing trends of the exchange rate.

I really do want to believe you. I just can't because you have zero credibility.

Please stop :)


Everything you quoted is right on. You should read my other posts and see that after the value hit 297 I changed my prediction for Today to 300+ which is what it hit. I knew a five point drop in value was coming or there abouts.

My story never changed. Five point drop from the point it stopped gaining. I had to revise after it gained a LITTLE more than I expected, but I was still VERY close. I didn;t see any predictions from you. What do you feel the future holds for the L$?
Cheyenne Marquez
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07-05-2006 20:46
From: Pan Fan
Everything you quoted is right on. You should read my other posts and see that after the value hit 297 I changed my prediction...


From: Pan Fan
My story never changed. Five point drop from the point it stopped gaining. I had to revise after it gained a LITTLE more than I expected...


From: Cheyenne Marquez
Moral of the story:

Predictions are worthless if you change them daily according to the ongoing and changing trends of the exchange rate.


Please stop! :)
Pan Fan
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07-05-2006 20:54
From: Cheyenne Marquez
Please stop! :)


NEVER!
Pan Fan
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07-05-2006 20:56
From: Cheyenne Marquez
P.S. - The exchange rate is approximately L$250k away from going under the L$300/1USD mark .... again.


Moral of the story:

Predictions are worthless if you change them daily according to the ongoing and changing trends of the exchange rate.

I really do want to believe you. I just can't because you have zero credibility.

Please stop :)


Huh? People change predictions in real life everyday based on new data and trends. Why ignor new data and trends unless you want to find yourself in the poorhouse.

What would you say the L$ will do over the next week? Noone seems to answer that question, but me.
Cheyenne Marquez
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07-05-2006 20:57
From: Pan Fan
NEVER!


The jokes on you then.

Don't complain when people laugh at you. :)
Pan Fan
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07-05-2006 20:58
From: Cheyenne Marquez
The jokes on you then.

Don't complain when people laugh at you. :)


Oh, as I said before, I don;t care what anyone thinks. I just enjoy posting my predictions. Period. Noone else seems willing to try it. *clucks like a chicken*
Jon Rolland
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07-05-2006 21:07
From: Pan Fan
lol, So now I was right, but I was wrong because I'm the one who made it happen? Please! Typing predictions do not create a panic. In fact, if anyone had anything worthwhile to say that opposed my view, that would balance things out. I'd say 50 people read this forum. I bet even if there were five threads all with the titles "SELL NOW!" from different mains it would change the market by less than one one hundredth of one percent.


There hasn't been 1 thread saying sell now from a "main" and if you think so little MONEY(not people) reads this forum why are you wasting your time?

From: Pan Fan
Tell me something. Why have your money sit at a level which will never be sold? You may as well keep it in game an invest it in something or use it to create something people want to buy and thus will demand L$ to buy it with. And if it was just going to sit in your in game account then having the money sitting at 240 doesn't drive the value of the L$ up at all, as it is just idle money sitting there which will never be sold just as if it was sitting in your in game account.


The day I think you know anything about the market is the day I am smoking something really strong.

From: Pan Fan
You also have not had anyone join you; you had one person leave you, while someone else upped the amount for sale at that level. Or maybe two people left and one other person joined you with a larger amount. You should have sold when I said and all of you would have made hundreds of more dollars. Oh well, can't say I didn’t tell you so.


I don't know I do know there is half a million more there than last time i checked. And hundreds? lol Learn some math 296 - 300 is $43US on 1 mil L That's nothing on a mill L but if my play wins 296 to 240 is $840 US. I'm playing for big bucks you panicing over comparitive pennies.

From: Pan Fan
Also, by telling people in your earlier post that "the market is going to hit 240! join us!" you are creating a "panic" to buy, or does that only happen when someone says to sell? lol.


Actually yah it does only happen when someone says sell. The buying market is driven by consumers currency traders are a comparative drop in the bucket. You can't "panic" impulse buyers into buying it's just not possible. But you can panic sellers who don't trust the market into believing if they don't sell now they will lose money.
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07-05-2006 21:16
From: Jon Rolland
There hasn't been 1 thread saying sell now from a "main" and if you think so little MONEY(not people) reads this forum why are you wasting your time?



The day I think you know anything about the market is the day I am smoking something really strong.



I don't know I do know there is half a million more there than last time i checked. And hundreds? lol Learn some math 296 - 300 is $43US on 1 mil L That's nothing on a mill L but if my play wins 296 to 240 is $840 US. I'm playing for big bucks you panicing over comparitive pennies.



Actually yah it does only happen when someone says sell. The buying market is driven by consumers currency traders are a comparative drop in the bucket. You can't "panic" impulse buyers into buying it's just not possible. But you can panic sellers who don't trust the market into believing if they don't sell now they will lose money.


I'm posting because it is fun, not to "panic" people. lol. Posting doesn't panic anything. You have no proof it does and if you do, I'd like to see the evidence. The thing about me knowing or not knowing anything was typical response on this board.

"I don't know." Lets take a look at that sentence. Wow! We have a brainiack here. Also, I was talking about the whole lot, which would = about $200 more money, not just your little block of cash.

"I'm playing for big bucks you panicing over comparitive pennies." No idea what in the world this is supposed to mean. An attempted insult? Say it isn't so.

The only thing I respect about you is that you actually have a price target which you have set. Good work! Although it will never happen, or at least not without more variables being changed (population, ads, etc.)


The part about making $840 if you "plan works" has an oposite side. If the value goes down, you lose money, just like you have over the past few days.
Jon Rolland
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07-05-2006 21:19
From: Pan Fan
What would you say the L$ will do over the next week? Noone seems to answer that question, but me.


I've got my money on my prediction, just mine isn't a 1 wk prediction, put your money on your's or quit trolling.
Pan Fan
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07-05-2006 21:34
From: Jon Rolland
I've got my money on my prediction, just mine isn't a 1 wk prediction, put your money on your's or quit trolling.


I'm trolling? ROFLMAO!

Ok, then back to my question, if you are planning on waiting long term before actually getting the sale, why not invest that money in a project and try and earn a return while at the same time giving residents in game more reason to demand more L$ and then sell your lot when it is in your target range? Several month of money sitting idle earning no interest with a very high chance that your lot will never sell thus making the whole thing more risky just doesn't seem economical. It is silly no matter how you look at it, from and economical point of view. I'd expect people posting on this forum to have a better grasp of investing.

Not trying to put you down here. I'm just trying to understand your logic.
Jon Rolland
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07-05-2006 21:34
From: Pan Fan
I'm posting because it is fun, not to "panic" people. lol. Posting doesn't panic anything. You have no proof it does and if you do, I'd like to see the evidence. The thing about me knowing or not knowing anything was typical response on this board.


Evidence - look at the market and plenty of work on human psychology. Proof - *snorts*

As far as not knowing anything you claim to be a 4 day newbie. You bet I say you know nothing. If you want anyone to think otherwise post from an account that shows you have experience with SL.

From: Pan Fan
"I don't know." Lets take a look at that sentence. Wow! We have a brainiack here. Also, I was talking about the whole lot, which would = about $200 more money, not just your little block of cash.


Rereading your sentence I think your adjusting your statement. I stand by mine.

From: Pan Fan
The only thing I respect about you is that you actually have a price target which you have set. Good work! Although it will never happen, or at least not without more variables being changed (population, ads, etc.)


While I don't think anything needs to change except the calendar. The population variable is continually changing. And other variables can change any time.

From: Pan Fan
The part about making $840 if you "plan works" has an oposite side. If the value goes down, you lose money, just like you have over the past few days.


I'm well aware the market can go both directions. But I also think it's closer to the bottom than the top. And just more evidence you don't know a thing. I haven't lost a penny of the past few days. I haven't closed my position. When I close my position I will make or lose money not till then.
Tiger Zobel
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07-05-2006 21:36
From: Pan Fan
Wow, more and more insults with no information, no predictions, no ideas, no stats. Thanks for your great contribution, NOT. For being such a boring thread and for me posting such boring posts, you sure do avidly read and respond to them.
Hon.. I gave you a lot of information, predictions, statistics and ideas a few days ago... just because you didn't agree with them doesn't mean they aren't there.

Oh, and show me where the insults are... I'm sure people would like to know. (pst... saying stuff like that is known as Poisoning the Well... a well-known and underhanded trick that people use when they can't win using logic, reason and facts.)
From: someone
Actually, I feel the value on Saturday will be just about what it is now +/-3%.
Do you realise just how useless that prediction is? You're predicting that it could be anywhere from 293 to 309! A 16 point spread for a prediction, especially such a short-term prediction, is worthless...

Think about it... I could predict that it'll be the same tomorrow as it is today +/-3% but what does it mean? It means that I wouldn't have the data nor the confidence to make any kind of accurate prediction. THAT is what your prediction is... and people are seeing through it.
From: someone
So, this would be a very good time to sell, as the pop now is just as high as it usually is on a Saturday. The L$ will lose a point or two before Fri and then rebound for the high population weekend and then back down again Monday minus one more point, then Tuesday the L$ will lose another point or two and repeat.
Again you base it on inworld population... that correlation is no correlation at all as some of the highest gains happen while the inworld population is 5k-ish.
From: someone
What do you think is going to happen? Lets hear it. I keep putting my butt on the line, while you do nothing more than simply say, "Yea, I think it might lose value sometime or maybe not, but you are def wrong." Although what I say has happened. I'm sure you'll reply within minutes to this "boring post." lol, more than likely just with a few name calling fallacies, some obscure, "it may lose value, but it may not" post. ROFLMAO! Then you might call me a "kid" again, woooo.

If predicting it'll be somewhere in a 16point spread from where it is, is putting your butt on the line, you have low confidence in your predictions.

Again, what I think will happen... the L$ will gain value as the weekend approaches, continue to gain over the weekend, suffer the regular "stippend blip" mon-wed, then start to gain value again come Thursday. Values...? I reckon Next Thursday it'll be back to where it is now... +/-3%, of course ;)


While I'm here, some more nice facts for you... seems the day traders are putting buy orders in at 313 now. That's pretty indicative of a gain coming, just like I predicted on Sunday. (yes, I made that prediction on Sunday, that it would lose value Tues/Wed, then gain it Thurs onwards... just remember that when you next claim no-one else made predictions... :) )
Also, since the active population has increased by 10k in the last week, we can say that it's growing nicely... as is the average online figure. But, that's a gain 4 weeks AFTER the registration change. If the dramatic rise was fueled by the registration change, why did it not happen weeks ago? If the increase has slowed right down, why is it still rising at approx 7% a week?
More to the point, why do you assume that the last few days were only due to the population increase, rather than the panic sellers running out of money to sell/stopping panicing? (a more likely reason, but it won't be the only thing affecting the value)


Oh, and I've never once called you a kid... just pointing out that your behaviour makes you look like one...
Jon Rolland
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07-05-2006 21:37
From: Pan Fan
Ok, then back to my question, if you are planning on waiting long term before actually getting the sale, why not invest that money in a project and try and earn a return while at the same time giving residents in game more reason to demand more L$?


I don't have a personal project to invest it in. And the infrastructure does not exist to SAFELY invest in someone else's project.

From: Pan Fan
Several month of money sitting idle earning no interest with very high chance that your lot will never sell thus making the whole thing more risky? It is silly no matter how you look at it, from and economical point of view. I'd expect people posting on this forum to have a better grasp of investing.


Both are your assumptions not mine.
Tiger Zobel
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07-05-2006 21:43
From: Pan Fan
"I'm playing for big bucks you panicing over comparitive pennies." No idea what in the world this is supposed to mean. An attempted insult? Say it isn't so.

Whinging over a possible insult? Whatever floats your boat hon, but that just makes you a hypocrite...
From: Pan Fan
"I don't know." Lets take a look at that sentence. Wow! We have a brainiack here.

If you're going to complain about the possibility of someone insulting you, don't do it right after you've insulted them...


That, incidentally, is the common tactic of a troll. If you're going to act like one, don't be surprised when people class you as one.
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07-05-2006 21:43
From: Tiger Zobel
Hon.. I gave you a lot of information, predictions, statistics and ideas a few days ago... just because you didn't agree with them doesn't mean they aren't there.

Oh, and show me where the insults are... I'm sure people would like to know. (pst... saying stuff like that is known as Poisoning the Well... a well-known and underhanded trick that people use when they can't win using logic, reason and facts.)Do you realise just how useless that prediction is? You're predicting that it could be anywhere from 293 to 309! A 16 point spread for a prediction, especially such a short-term prediction, is worthless...

Think about it... I could predict that it'll be the same tomorrow as it is today +/-3% but what does it mean? It means that I wouldn't have the data nor the confidence to make any kind of accurate prediction. THAT is what your prediction is... and people are seeing through it.Again you base it on inworld population... that correlation is no correlation at all as some of the highest gains happen while the inworld population is 5k-ish.
If predicting it'll be somewhere in a 16point spread from where it is, is putting your butt on the line, you have low confidence in your predictions.

Again, what I think will happen... the L$ will gain value as the weekend approaches, continue to gain over the weekend, suffer the regular "stippend blip" mon-wed, then start to gain value again come Thursday. Values...? I reckon Next Thursday it'll be back to where it is now... +/-3%, of course ;)


While I'm here, some more nice facts for you... seems the day traders are putting buy orders in at 313 now. That's pretty indicative of a gain coming, just like I predicted on Sunday. (yes, I made that prediction on Sunday, that it would lose value Tues/Wed, then gain it Thurs onwards... just remember that when you next claim no-one else made predictions... :) )
Also, since the active population has increased by 10k in the last week, we can say that it's growing nicely... as is the average online figure. But, that's a gain 4 weeks AFTER the registration change. If the dramatic rise was fueled by the registration change, why did it not happen weeks ago? If the increase has slowed right down, why is it still rising at approx 7% a week?
More to the point, why do you assume that the last few days were only due to the population increase, rather than the panic sellers running out of money to sell/stopping panicing? (a more likely reason, but it won't be the only thing affecting the value)


Oh, and I've never once called you a kid... just pointing out that your behaviour makes you look like one...


I actually meant +/- 3 points. Sorry about that.

The buy orders are always about 15 points from whatever the current sell rate is. The guy/girl selling at 20 points over must have been a non-day trader just trying to get a good deal for the day.

Ok, so I look like a kid then. That's not an insult?

Glad you have finally said what you think will happen although it is more less the same thing I said, only I feel the L$ will lose value not gain after the typical bounces from the weekend. We'll see who is right. Shall we say the loser will eat a virtual hat? One month from now, if the L$ is up in value I eat a hat, if it is down, you eat one. Fair?

Why is the pop rising? Alts and noobs, just like me! Will it continue forever, no. Are there people quiting everyday? Yes. Is the number joining more than those quiting, yes. Will that last long term, no, although I hope so!
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07-05-2006 21:44
From: Tiger Zobel
Whinging over a possible insult? Whatever floats your boat hon, but that just makes you a hypocrite...

If you're going to complain about the possibility of someone insulting you, don't do it right after you've insulted them...


That, incidentally, is the common tactic of a troll. If you're going to act like one, don't be surprised when people class you as one.


I only insult those whom insult me...
Tiger Zobel
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07-05-2006 21:53
From: Pan Fan
I actually meant +/- 3 points. Sorry about that.

The buy orders are always about 15 points from whatever the current sell rate is. The guy/girl selling at 20 points over must have been a non-day trader just trying to get a good deal for the day.
13 over... you make a lot of mistakes, which doesn't give me any confidence in your conclusions. (working off the wrong assumpitions just kills any confidence, but maybe you'll correct that mistake too)
From: someone
Ok, so I look like a kid then. That's not an insult?
The truth is no insult... if you act like a kid, then expect people to tell you you "look" like a kid. Denigrating someones intelligence though, that's an insult...
From: someone
Glad you have finally said what you think will happen although it is more less the same thing I said, only I feel the L$ will lose value not gain after the typical bounces from the weekend.
Finally? Hon, I made that prediction on SUNDAY... well before you "predicted" anything like it... You seem to be determined to prove that you didn't read what I posted.
From: someone
We'll see who is right. Shall we say the loser will eat a virtual hat? One month from now, if the L$ is up in value I eat a hat, if it is down, you eat one. Fair?

Why? I've got nothing to prove. YOU are the one who's been trying to get your OPINION accepted as fact. YOU are the one who's been challenging people all along. YOU are the one who suffered the humiliation of insisting it would NEVER get past 301.

Keep on challenging... you're doing the internet equivalent of "I double-dog dare you.." "Well I triple-dog dare you"
If the one you're challenging has nothing to prove, you're acting like a kid for nothing... (well, it puts a smile on my face. :) )
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07-05-2006 21:55
From: Pan Fan
I only insult those whom insult me...

Jon didn't insult you... so that means you've just insulted someone who didn't...
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07-05-2006 21:57
From: Tiger Zobel
13 over... you make a lot of mistakes, which doesn't give me any confidence in your conclusions. (working off the wrong assumpitions just kills any confidence, but maybe you'll correct that mistake too)The truth is no insult... if you act like a kid, then expect people to tell you you "look" like a kid. Denigrating someones intelligence though, that's an insult...Finally? Hon, I made that prediction on SUNDAY... well before you "predicted" anything like it... You seem to be determined to prove that you didn't read what I posted.
Why? I've got nothing to prove. YOU are the one who's been trying to get your OPINION accepted as fact. YOU are the one who's been challenging people all along. YOU are the one who suffered the humiliation of insisting it would NEVER get past 301.

Keep on challenging... you're doing the internet equivalent of "I double-dog dare you.." "Well I triple-dog dare you"
If the one you're challenging has nothing to prove, you're acting like a kid for nothing... (well, it puts a smile on my face. :) )


Wow! I thought my posts were sooooo boring. Why oh why do you keep responding to them then? Just wondering. Do you have a boring life?

As I said at least 5 times now, I don't care what people think or if they believe me or not, I just like posting my predictions. Period. Ok, this conversation is getting old quick.

What about the hat eating? Scared? It has nothing to do with convincing anyone of anything and everything to do with fun. I'm trying to have some fun here and if I'm wrong I'll eat the hat, but me saying I'll do so is no fun unless when/if I'm right someone else has to eat his/her's. As you seem to be the only one on here whom posts over and over again although you feel the posts are "boring" I'd love for it to be you! Be a sport. Or are you chicken *clucks like a chicken*
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07-05-2006 22:17
From: Pan Fan
Wow! I thought my posts were sooooo boring. Why oh why do you keep responding to them then? Just wondering. Do you have a boring life?
I enjoy playing with trolls and those who act like them...

By the way... are you trying to insult me... you know that's against ToS. ;)
From: someone
As I said at least 5 times now, I don't care what people think or if they believe me or not, I just like posting my predictions. Period. Ok, this conversation is getting old quick.
You care so little about people believing you or not that you'll post over and over about how everyone'll see you were right/have to eat their hat/lose their money because they missed their chance...

Do you delight in crowing about stuff?
From: someone
What about the hat eating? Scared?
Childish... I grew out of that kind of tactic 25 years ago.
From: someone
It has nothing to do with convincing anyone of anything and everything to do with fun. I'm trying to have some fun here and if I'm wrong I'll eat the hat, but me saying I'll do so is no fun unless when/if I'm right someone else has to eat his/her's.
Double-dog dare anyone?
From: someone
As you seem to be the only one on here whom posts over and over again although you feel the posts are "boring" I'd love for it to be you! Be a sport. Or are you chicken *clucks like a chicken*

More insults? Trying to goad me into doing something I see no need to do? "Hey... here's a 50 foot wall... Be a sport and jump off it, or are you chicken?" Childish, isn't it?

Give me one good reason to accept your challenge... just one. (and any along the lines of "put your money where your mouth is" aren't good reasons, so don't even try them)
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07-05-2006 22:21
From: Tiger Zobel
I enjoy playing with trolls and those who act like them...

By the way... are you trying to insult me... you know that's against ToS. ;)You care so little about people believing you or not that you'll post over and over about how everyone'll see you were right/have to eat their hat/lose their money because they missed their chance...

Do you delight in crowing about stuff?Childish... I grew out of that kind of tactic 25 years ago.Double-dog dare anyone?
More insults? Trying to goad me into doing something I see no need to do? "Hey... here's a 50 foot wall... Be a sport and jump off it, or are you chicken?" Childish, isn't it?

Give me one good reason to accept your challenge... just one. (and any along the lines of "put your money where your mouth is" aren't good reasons, so don't even try them)


Ok, I see, you are scared. I understand, I would be to with your prediction. Svar had no problem saying he would meet me to eat a hat. So I guess he's a child as well?
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